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AJTC

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Jun 8, 2012
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Hi there,

I’ve only had my Pro 10.5 for a few days, but it sounds as though you’ve had yours longer. Is this battery drain a new thing on yours? If so, do you feel it may tie in with an iOS update?
Yep I’ve had it since August 2017. At first I thought the battery capacity was going to be way lower than 91%.

I thought if it was an iOS update more people would have the same issue.
 

Macpiglet

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Apr 5, 2019
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Yep I’ve had it since August 2017. At first I thought the battery capacity was going to be way lower than 91%.

I thought if it was an iOS update more people would have the same issue.

Mine has also been running down quickly, but I’m thinking it may be because I’ve barely put it down since it arrived. Tonight, though, I’m going to charge it to 100%, leave it downstairs and see how it is in the morning.

I see there’s a similar thread on here re: the larger iPad Pro.
 

AJTC

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Jun 8, 2012
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I installed iOS 12.3 public beta 2 yesterday. I left my iPad alone for 12 hours overnight and it’s at 100% this morning.

Seems like this is a software issue and iOS 12.3 resolves it.
 

Macpiglet

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Apr 5, 2019
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I installed iOS 12.3 public beta 2 yesterday. I left my iPad alone for 12 hours overnight and it’s at 100% this morning.

Seems like this is a software issue and iOS 12.3 resolves it.

This is great news! Do you have any idea when 12.3 might be available to all?
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This is great news! Do you have any idea when 12.3 might be available to all?

Edit: Ahaa. A quick Google suggests May.
 

Hrti

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Nov 1, 2013
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I installed iOS 12.3 public beta 2 yesterday. I left my iPad alone for 12 hours overnight and it’s at 100% this morning.

Seems like this is a software issue and iOS 12.3 resolves it.

Could you try the same at another percentage?
 

EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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I bought a refurb iPad Pro 10.5” last month, March 2019, ordered the day the 10.5” Air was announced. I received it the next day. Manufacture date is July 2018.

I charged it up one night and then had a look the next day. It was only down 2%, to 98%. I also have both the Apple Smart Keyboard which was attached, and Apple Pencil which is paired to it. WiFi and Bluetooth are always both on.

Battery capacity when I received it in March was >100% (which read as 100% in CoconutBattery), with only 1 battery cycle.
 
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EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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I unplugged my iPad Pro 10.5" this morning, and used it for a few minutes transferring some files and exporting some videos from LumaFusion. I just checked it half a day later (and connected to my Apple Smart Keyboard) and it is still at 100%.
 

eneisch

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Jul 11, 2008
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I unplugged my iPad Pro 10.5" this morning, and used it for a few minutes transferring some files and exporting some videos from LumaFusion. I just checked it half a day later (and connected to my Apple Smart Keyboard) and it is still at 100%.
Which iOS version is installed please?
 

AJTC

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Jun 8, 2012
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I left my iPad for 10 hours with no use today and it dropped from 100% to 93%.

I wonder what changed other than apps left running in the background this time like Instagram and Tweetbot.
 

eneisch

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Jul 11, 2008
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People experiencing battery issues, what kind of router are you using? Do you live in a densely populated area, like an apartment building, with lots of WiFi connections available?

I’m thinking that there might be something network specific causing the drain as I don’t seem to experience it when I am on networks other than my home network which uses a Apple Airport Extreme and is in a area where there are tons of other WiFi networks available.
 

EugW

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FWIW, for my iPad Pro 10.5" with its good battery life, this is my WiFi setup, all AirPort Extremes:

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The main router is "Basement" and the rest of them are acting as simple WiFi access points, all hardwired to "Basement" through an unmanaged 24-port switch centrally and various other 5 to 8 port unmanaged switches peripherally.

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/extreme-overkill-airport-mesh.2171677/
 
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Canezmd

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Feb 6, 2011
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This is a huge problem. 2018 iPad Pro 10.5. Battery loses 25% per day while just sitting on the nightstand.

It says screentime 0 minutes, background activity 2 minutes... but loses 25% per day!!

I’ve had almost every iPad made. My old iPad Air, which is right next to the pro loses like 2% per day and it’s 5 years old.

Unbelievable
 
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eneisch

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Jul 11, 2008
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This is a huge problem. 2018 iPad Pro 10.5. Battery loses 25% per day while just sitting on the nightstand.

It says screentime 0 minutes, background activity 2 minutes... but loses 25% per day!!

I’ve had almost every iPad made. My old iPad Air, which is right next to the pro loses like 2% per day and it’s 5 years old.

Unbelievable

The replacement Apple gave me is not faring much better than my original one, so I don’t think replacement with a new unit is the answer. It’s so weird that this issue only seems to be affecting some users and not others. I’ve been trying to figure it out to no avail.
 

lpb

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Jul 26, 2013
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I'm having the same issue on my iPad Pro 10.5. It is almost 2 years old and battery health is about 93% with 74 cycles.

I have tried to remove my exchange account. Turned off app background refresh. Installed iOS 12.3 beta 2.

Nothing helps. Battery consumption is over 1% per hour whit no use...

I have now done a DFU restore and created a brand new Apple-ID with no apps installed to see the drain...
 

EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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Beta versions of the OS often have worse battery life.

I'm having the same issue on my iPad Pro 10.5. It is almost 2 years old and battery health is about 93% with 74 cycles.

I have tried to remove my exchange account. Turned off app background refresh. Installed iOS 12.3 beta 2.

Nothing helps. Battery consumption is over 1% per hour whit no use...

I have now done a DFU restore and created a brand new Apple-ID with no apps installed to see the drain...
 

lpb

macrumors member
Jul 26, 2013
42
15
Sweden
Yes but the drain is almost the same on iOS 12.2 and 12.3 so I don't think that 12.3 is the problem...
 
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Hrti

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Nov 1, 2013
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Thanks for your input. Seems like we can rule out AirPort Extreme as a factor.

IMO the drain seems to be related to network issues of some kind. While in airplane mode, my iPad drains 1-3% during 12-24 hours. With all network settings on (wifi and BT, pencil connected), it can drain anywhere from 10-20% in 12-24 hours. What’s weird is that while staying at my parents house for a couple of days now, my iPad only drains 1-3% during 12-24 hours without using airplane mode. There are far less wifi networks in range at my parents house compared to our house. FWIW I have a Time Capsule as my main router at home.
 

eneisch

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Jul 11, 2008
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IMO the drain seems to be related to network issues of some kind. While in airplane mode, my iPad drains 1-3% during 12-24 hours. With all network settings on (wifi and BT, pencil connected), it can drain anywhere from 10-20% in 12-24 hours. What’s weird is that while staying at my parents house for a couple of days now, my iPad only drains 1-3% during 12-24 hours without using airplane mode. There are far less wifi networks in range at my parents house compared to our house. FWIW I have a Time Capsule as my main router at home.

I was just at my mom's for Easter weekend and saw the same thing. Battery only lost 3% in 24 hours while connected to her network where on mine it loses 15-25% for the same time period. Environmental differences between my home network and my Mom's (which I setup):

1. I use a Apple Airport Extreme as my router. Mom has a Netgear Orbi Mini mesh network with one satellite.
2. Mom lives in a suburban area. I only pick up 1-2 other networks. I live in a high rise apartment building and everyone has a WiFi network and most have a both a 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz network running.

Only weird thing is I recently got a 3rd gen 12.9 and it loses less than 10% in a 24 hour period (although it can vary a bit). Perhaps that is because the battery capacity of the 12.9 is 9,720 mAh battery which the 10.5 pro has a 8134 mAh battery. I suppose the A12X in the 12.9 pro is also more power efficient that the A10X found in the 10.5 pro.

Looking like this cannot be solved and might have to just live with it.
 
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EugW

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Jun 18, 2017
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I was just at my mom's for Easter weekend and saw the same thing. Battery only lost 3% in 24 hours while connected to her network where on mine it loses 15-25% for the same time period. Environmental differences between my home network and my Mom's (which I setup):

1. I use a Apple Airport Extreme as my router. Mom has a Netgear Orbi Mini mesh network with one satellite.
2. Mon lives in a suburban area. I only pick up 1-2 other networks. I live in a high rise apartment building and everyone has a WiFi network and most have a both a 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz network running.

Only weird thing is I recently got a 3rd gen 12.9 and it loses less than 10% in a 24 hour period (although it can vary a bit). Perhaps that is because the battery capacity of the 12.9 is 9,720 mAh battery which the 10.5 pro has a 8134 mAh battery. I suppose the A12X in the 12.9 pro is also more power efficient that the A10X found in the 10.5 pro.

Looking like this cannot be solved and might have to just live with it.
When your iPad Pro is sitting idle at your home and losing battery, how far is it from the Airport Extreme? How strong are the competing network signals?

In my case, I have strong to very strong WiFi signal almost everywhere in my house... because I have 5 Airport Extreme base stations in my house, and I also live in suburbia. There are a few competing networks, but with much weaker signal, and nothing like what people get in some urban locations.
 

Hrti

macrumors member
Nov 1, 2013
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Just got home yesterday, and tonight the standby drain is back to 15% in 9 hours. That’s just ridiculous, especially seeing the low drain when at my mom’s for the easter holidays. My iPad is sitting idle in a shelf 2 metres aways from my Time Capsule (the same location it has always been sitting idle). Both my iPad and network configuration have been unchanged since the 10.5 was released and bought. The excessive drain started happening a couple of months ago, but I’m certain the battery itself is fine. Maybe I should have another look at my network setup
 

MrXiro

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I'm having the same issues with my 9.7 Pro. Airplane mode I get about 2% loss a day. With everything connected it drops over 10% a day in idle.

I also have the 11 Pro and the Mini 4 in the same home and neither of them drain that fast. I can't figure out why this is...
 

aakshey

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Jun 13, 2016
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Try 2.4GHz Wifi. Try no Wifi / just 4G. Report back.

My iPhone X drains twice as much on 5Ghz Wifi than with Wifi off and 4G on.
 
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