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I dunno, but I'm still convinced that some of the refurbs are just new units with a different lid on the box.

Yes, that is what we discussing the other day. It actually makes much more sense to me than the idea that technicians are spending their time stripping down iPads and refurbishing them. My best guess is that most of the iPads that need refurbishing go straight in the garbage.
 
Yes, that is what we discussing the other day. It actually makes much more sense to me than the idea that technicians are spending their time stripping down iPads and refurbishing them. My best guess is that most of the iPads that need refurbishing go straight in the garbage.
Well, it should be noted Apple has robots that can disassemble iDevices.

 
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Well, it should be noted Apple has robots that can disassemble iDevices.


Apple should seriously consider putting you in charge of international iPad sales. Your unbounded enthusiasm for these devices is probably more responsible for purchases by members of this forum than every other factor combined. I know you've cost me over £1,200 and I've only been a member for a few days.
 
Apple should seriously consider putting you in charge of international iPad sales. Your unbounded enthusiasm for these devices is probably more responsible for purchases by members of this forum than every other factor combined. I know you've cost me over £1,200 and I've only been a member for a few days.
Haha. :D

BTW, my main complaint before with the iPad Pro was the cost, which is why I never bought one initially. I just soldiered on with my Air 2, which truthfully was fine for most of my usage. However, my kids wanting a better iPad gave me a good excuse to upgrade. Unfortunately, I still didn't feel justified in spending the coin for the 11" Pro. However, the big price drop on the 10.5" Pro when the Air was introduced was the deal maker. My original plan was to pick up whatever iPad would replace the 2018 iPad, but getting the refurb Pro 10.5" for even less money is much better.

There is only one minor annoyance. If I leave the iPad on the desk and don't touch it, it is set to lock after 5 minutes. When I get back to it, if I press a key on the keyboard, it wakes up, but only takes me to the lock screen. In a way that's good because I can check the time this way without logging in. However, to actually log in, I have to tap a key again and type in or my number, or else press the home button to use Touch ID. That's fine but on the 11" iPad you don't have to do anything because Face ID would take care of that. On the 11" iPad Pro, just double-tap the space bar to get in with Face ID.

I wish on the 10.5" you could set display dim and auto-lock separately like on a Mac. I'd probably set display dim to 2-5 minutes, and auto-lock after 10-15 minutes. That reflects my usage better.

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I also did some measurements on weights of the iPad Pro 10.5" with added accessories, and posted them here:

https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-5-inch-ipad-pro.2173777/page-8#post-27222163

469 g / 1.03 lb - iPad Pro 10.5" WiFi (according to Apple)
617 g / 1.36 lb - iPad Pro + glass screen protector + MoKo TPU cover
105 g / 0.23 lb - MoKo TPU cover
246 g / 0.54 lb - Apple Smart Keyboard (245 g according to Apple)

Total: 863 g / 1.90 lbs :eek:

I didn't measure the screen protector alone, but it can be calculated: 617 - 469 - 105 = 43 g / 0.095 lb

Also, my ProCase padded sleeve is 141 g / 0.31 lb
 
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Yeah, that's a great price. That sale is not reflected in Canada though. Fortunately, they are on the refurb store in Canada for CAD$619 (US$462.21).

In Australia, on the refurb store the iPad Pro 10.5" 64 GB WiFi is AUD$749 (US$$534.31), but that includes GST of AUS$68.09 (US$48.57), meaning the pre-tax price in Australia on the Apple Refurbished Store is AUS$680.91 (US$485.75).

My Canadian refurb 10.5" Pro order came with a manufacture date of July 30, 2018, with 100% battery capacity (see pic in previous post above - no cycles).


Where do you find the manufacture date?
 
the big price drop on the 10.5" Pro when the Air was introduced was the deal maker. My original plan was to pick up whatever iPad would replace the 2018 iPad, but getting the refurb Pro 10.5" for even less money is much better.

I'm just hoping that we don't get this bright spot business. I would be so ticked off.
Where do you find the manufacture date?

Enter your serial number here is one way:

http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html
 
I'm just hoping that we don't get this bright spot business. I would be so ticked off.


Enter your serial number here is one way:

http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

Thanks. It looks like mine (ipad pro 10.5, 64gb, wifi/cellular refrub) was manufactured in 2/2019. So guessing either a new unit or a return during the 14 day return window.
I'm just hoping that we don't get this bright spot business. I would be so ticked off.


Enter your serial number here is one way:

http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html

Thanks. Mine (64gb, ipdad 10.5 wifi/cellular refrub) has a manufacture date of 2/19. Either a new unit or a return within the 14 day return window my guess.
 
Seen them where if you don't mind my asking?
There has not been a single display unit in any store I've been in (Best Buy/Target) (minus the Apple Store) that hasn't had the issue.That stopped me from buying one last year, and I don't want to take the risk on buying a refurb or a new one at a reduced price. Granted the Air could eventually have the same problem, but as of now at least I don't know the problem obviously exists on that model.
 
There has not been a single display unit in any store I've been in (Best Buy/Target) (minus the Apple Store) that hasn't had the issue.

Given that it surely is more than a little surprising that the issue hasn't gained a wider currency. I wonder why that is. Any ideas?
 
Given that it surely is more than a little surprising that the issue hasn't gained a wider currency. I wonder why that is. Any ideas?
Like the MacBook keyboard issue, it's still likely a minority of units. But instead of this problem occurring with say 0.5% of units, perhaps it's happening with 5% of units.

FWIW, my 2017 MacBook is still fine, but then again I don't eat in front of it.
 
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That would also make sense, certainly when they have a stock of new inventory left over after they have just discontinued a product.

I’ll support this theory. Currently using my refurbished 10.5 pro delivered today and the manufacturing date is 2/29/2019 according to coconut battery. There no way it was built on that date, shipped to a store or customer from China , returned to apple, refurbished and put back into inventory in less than 30 days.
 
Like the MacBook keyboard issue, it's still likely a minority of units. But instead of this problem occurring with say 0.5% of units, perhaps it's happening with 5% of units.

FWIW, my 2017 MacBook is still fine, but then again I don't eat in front of it.

Same here. My wife and I both have 2017 MBPs that have seen 11 months of HEAVY usage and no problems. And I eat in front of mine now and then, <cough>.

I’m not worried about the bright spot issue, but either way, I bought AppleCare+ for my 10.5. Mine was manufactured right before the turn of the new year 2019, but I bought new from Best Buy.

And yes, you’ve cost me $, but it was a great decision and I’m thankful for the encouragement. Using Apple Pencil with a 10.5 Pro has been so amazing vs my 2018 iPad. Reading on this screen for hours feels better than the 2018. So thank you. Apple should be giving you commission. :)
 
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Like the MacBook keyboard issue, it's still likely a minority of units. But instead of this problem occurring with say 0.5% of units, perhaps it's happening with 5% of units.

FWIW, my 2017 MacBook is still fine, but then again I don't eat in front of it.

Of course, there may well be people who haven't noticed or perhaps have noticed and don't care or just haven't gotten around to complaining.
 
For Safari tab reloads, I don't know how much 4 GB (iPad Pro 10.5") will be better over 3 GB (iPad Air 10.5"), but it has made a noticeable difference to me over 2 GB (iPad Air 2). Way fewer tab reloads.

This should not come at a surprise of course, but this old video supports this observation.


That said, the way I use my iPhone, 3 GB seems usually to be enough for the iPhone, whereas 1 GB on iPhone 5s was woefully inadequate even 3 years ago. On my iPhone I use fewer tabs and there is no multitasking.
 
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Looking for an opinion. I just bought a refrub 10.5 ipad pro from Apple this week. I have it all set up and and it has a manufacturer date of February 2019. So thinking maybe a new unit. Bestbuy is now really discounting the same thing and I can get a new unit for $30 less. Also I believe my credit card won't extend the warranty on the refrub but will on the new unit. Does anyone think it is worth the hassle of swiping the refrub clean, returning it to Apple and buying the new unit from Bestbuy? Just wondering what others would do.
 
Looking for an opinion. I just bought a refrub 10.5 ipad pro from Apple this week. I have it all set up and and it has a manufacturer date of February 2019. So thinking maybe a new unit. Bestbuy is now really discounting the same thing and I can get a new unit for $30 less. Also I believe my credit card won't extend the warranty on the refrub but will on the new unit. Does anyone think it is worth the hassle of swiping the refrub clean, returning it to Apple and buying the new unit from Bestbuy? Just wondering what others would do.
Yes, worth the hassle.

I believe that Amex will extend Apple’s refurb warranty but MasterCard may not, at least from what I read. Neither will extend warranties from third parties.

Which credit card do you have?

I wonder how old that Best Buy stock is. Mind you, my Apple refurb from last week was manufactured July 30.
 
Yes, worth the hassle.

I believe that Amex will extend Apple’s refurb warranty but MasterCard may not, at least from what I read. Neither will extend warranties from third parties.

Which credit card do you have?

I wonder how old that Best Buy stock is. Mind you, my Apple refurb from last week was manufactured July 30.

It is a Mastercard. I am going to call them to make sure it is covered under the card I have. Yea I thought about the manufacturer date also. I will just check the date before I unwrap the box and return the refurb if I go that route.
 
I'm just hoping that we don't get this bright spot business. I would be so ticked off.


Enter your serial number here is one way:

http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html
FWIW my old iPad 10.5” got the bright spot after approx 3-4 months after I got it in July 2017, so probably a launch unit. I got it replaced by Apple around March 2018 (memories a little foggy). My new one (refurb? Most likely), is still flawless and according to the site it was made September 2017.
 
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It is a Mastercard. I am going to call them to make sure it is covered under the card I have. Yea I thought about the manufacturer date also. I will just check the date before I unwrap the box and return the refurb if I go that route.
IIRC, Best Buy often treats shrink wrapped electronics returns as if they have been opened.

To save Best Buy from having to restock it as an open box if you return it, ideally you’d check the manufacture date before you buy it.
 
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So even if I don't remove the shrink wrap they will consider it an opened item? Restocking fee?
Yeah, often. The reason is they get scammed, as shrink wrap is easy to do. All you need is a hairdryer and the shrink wrap bag.

I don’t think there would be a restocking fee, but you’d have to reconfirm with them.
 
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Probaly the best way to do it is check the manufacturer date before I leave the store. I can use the website provided eariler in this thread. So I bought it for in store pick up. Just need to decide if I want to switch it out. I did call Mastercard and my card does extend the warranty.
 
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