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How did you feel about the iPad Pro ad?

  • I enjoyed it.

    Votes: 77 35.6%
  • Don’t have any strong feelings about it.

    Votes: 67 31.0%
  • I hated it; poor choice of concept.

    Votes: 72 33.3%

  • Total voters
    216

bousozoku

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What about the famous 1984 Apple ad. It is conceptual, not to be taken literally. The message is disruption, destroy old ways.

That was more about being an individual than destroying anything. Japanese people love people who are unique but still use consensus to make decisions.
 

bousozoku

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I hold these two thoughts in my head at the same time:

1. It was weird to see Apple glorify destruction of so much art-related stuff. I found it offputting.

2. This is a totally empty controversy. In three months no one will remember ever seeing this ad.
Won't they remember? After Sept. 11, 2001, BenQ used a photo of the destruction as a backdrop to sell a product. They ended up apologizing for their lack of sensitivity and removed the advert.
 

stevemiller

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What about the famous 1984 Apple ad. It is conceptual, not to be taken literally. The message is disruption, destroy old ways.

We both agree both ads are saying “destroy these old ways of doing things.” I guess the debate here is whether you’d want to destroy nice classical analogue tools in the same way you’d want to destroy a symbolic draconian overlord.
 
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stevemiller

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what an odd thing to get upset over.

its abundantly clear why the 'crush' martaphor has been used here because they want to showcase the thinness of the new design.

Its not like they are flattening puppies or anything.....
Odd that you’d adopt that stance when I explicitly said I’m not fuming over it or anything. But apparently analyzing and critiquing media apparently DOES annoy some people here. Me laying out the reasoning for my opinion elicited an anger reaction from at least one person. Is their anger “odd” or is odd to you just anyone you disagree with?

Have a good one. :)
 

Macalway

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This is a disturbing ad. Incredible violence to creative things. What's next, throwing the competition under busses?
This is not like the brilliant 1984 ad, good vs evil. This is like the reverse :D

First of all, it's stressful. A hydraulic press slowly crushing things. Nice things. Maybe if it was a terminator with evil, glowing eyes, you might be more comfortable.
 
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H. Flower

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Jul 23, 2008
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On one hand, I like the execution and high concept.

But on the other, it DOES remind me of all the things I am leary of with tech, and the growing realization of how much damage smart phones and adjacent tech have done (aside from the good).

Because of its dystopian message, Steve would have thrown someone through a window for airing this.
 

Jay-Jacob

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I didn't like ad either. It feels so wasteful destroy all that stuff so hoping it just GCI or something. Apple always says they are environmental friendly and this ad is like opposite of it.

I do get point of advert and got it right at beginning and I knew iPad Pro will appear at end, message is obvious but don't quite like way they did it though.

They could show all those things jump inside iPad like shrink them smaller smaller until inside iPad or something instead of crushing them.
 

Realityck

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What are you guys’ thoughts? I guess this might be cultural because I could only find news from japanese sites and most people replying at Tim’s X are Japanese.
Its gotten a lot more attention lately


For decades, Apple has been the toast of the creative class. It has won over designers, musicians and film editors with promises that its products would help them “Think Different.” But some creators took a different message from the one-minute iPad ad. Rather than seeing a device that could help them create, as Mr. Cook suggested, they saw a metaphor for how Big Tech has cashed in on their work by crushing or co-opting the artistic tools that humanity has used for centuries.
The dystopian spot, which depicts the relentless destruction of instruments and artworks, marks a dark turn for the company and begs the question: Will 2024 be like 1984?
All that stuff — the paint, the piano, the trumpet, the arcade machine, the illustrator's table — do you feel any hostility toward it? Do you want to see it destroyed and symbolically turned into an Apple device? Does it give you any satisfaction to see record players annihilated, and cameras all squished, and crumbly, and exploding?
 
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JustAnExpat

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it is kind of a clever reference to a popular trend of putting various items in a press to see what they do as they are crushed
That's a trend now? I haven't seen that trend at all. Is it this generation's version of "will it blend?"
 

Rkuda

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I think the ad is definitely tacky and in poor taste. There is a lot of appreciation for tradition and for analog things in Japan so it's understandable plenty of Japanese people on twitter are still unhappy about this ad.

Technology, especially big tech is becoming more insufferable day by day, and makes me want less of it in my life not more...
 
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Realityck

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I think the ad is definitely tacky and in poor taste. There is a lot of appreciation for tradition and for analog things in Japan so it's understandable plenty of Japanese people on twitter are still unhappy about this ad.

Technology, especially big tech is becoming more insufferable day by day, and makes me want less of it in my life not more...
Excellent point, the Japanese people are not controlled by retail that likes to abandon physical media, exotic Hi-Fi setups, and all kinds of video/music formats that they collect such as records/CD's. This commercial showing various analog devices being destroyed and replaced by a iPad is counter to their technology enjoyment. Apple may think they are doing away with turntables, cameras and replacing it with a iPad Pro sends the wrong message. They would have done a lot better showing some kind of merging of many forms of entertainment technology into the new iPad Pro.

 
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sunapple

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I cringed seeing stuff getting crushed but liked the visuals at the same time. Probably not a great decision though going for this hydraulic press concept. Would have opted for something a bit less realistic.
 
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Elusi

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There were angry birds and emojis and stuff in there so I assumed it was about putting a plethora of things into a very small package ie the iPad. Not about the destruction of instruments themselves.

Though it seemingly wasn't CGI so yeah it's weird to see all this needless destruction in a practical sense, while at the same time opting to stop with the stickers.
 

JustAnExpat

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There were angry birds and emojis and stuff in there so I assumed it was about putting a plethora of things into a very small package ie the iPad. Not about the destruction of instruments themselves.

Though it seemingly wasn't CGI so yeah it's weird to see all this needless destruction in a practical sense, while at the same time opting to stop with the stickers.
I think it's CGI, but one of the problems I have with this advertisement is that it's too realistic.

Let's say I make a video, and I have a very realistic young boy hit a very realistic old man with a hammer and blood comes out everywhere. Is that funny? No, because people know that hitting a person in the head with a hammer will cause the skull to break, releasing blood. Now let's say the hammer causes the old man to be folded up like an accordion. Will that be funny? Sure. Everyone knows hammers can't make people folded up like accordions, and therefore the unexpected triggers a humorous response in most people.

That's the problem with this video, it doesn't cross over, unless you pay really close attention, to unrealism. It looks like things are being destroyed realistically with a press, and an iPad magically appears as a result (which itself isn't that humorous).
 

JustAnExpat

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It's done the purpose of what adverts are supposed to. You are discussing it, whether you like it or not. It's got noticed.

So from Apple's point of view, it's worked
True, but does Apple want this type of attention? Apple usually doesn't do noise advertisements.
 

Gadger Snr

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True, but does Apple want this type of attention? Apple usually doesn't do noise advertisements.
A lot of money and thought goes into their adverts; they know precisely the reaction they will elicit. The advert would also have been tested for reactions before being published. I am thinking of buying the new iPad, but the adverts make no difference, in my opinion. I just think it is clever marketing, which you expect from Apple. 👍
 

Elusi

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Seems to have really upset the creative industry including big names in Hollywood.

The US twitter storm is hilarious. Put it this way to fit how they talk on that platform:

"Old rich white people upset that the younger generation get access to creative tools for a lower cost - blames Apple".
 

faustus

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Jul 16, 2008
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Not really a question of being offended. But given the context of a lot of creative people's concerns about the impact of AI on human creativity, the image of crushing all of the tools used for that creativity into an iPad is a bit concerning. It used to be iPads and other computers were designed to enhance human creativity - record your guitar onto your iPad and look at what you can do with it! The idea of replacing the guitar with your iPad is a bit unsettling.
 
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