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Not exactly. There is a price difference between the Air 2 and 9.7 Pro. That was not the case going from the iPad 4 to the Air. There also wasn't already an existing "Air" device when the "Air" was introduced.

The confusion created by the introduction of the 9.7 Pro has some valid reasons. It isn't simply conjured up by people who are unable to differentiate change.

Yeah, it kind of is. If people were so at ease accepting change then we wouldn't be having this conversation. It's a new iPad, it's got a new name, it's got a new price, it can do more. It's that simple.

They've kept the old one around just like they always do. It's an upgrade over the previous version, just like it always is. The next one will be just the same no matter if thats an iPad Pro 2, or the all new iPad Awesome.

That there was a 12.9" version released first means nothing other than it may have been ready first. Or that they wanted to get the big screen variant out first to show it as their answer to competitors bigger screen devices without diluting that message. Or they wanted people to know that there are differences between the two Pro models other than screen size and that's easier to do by splitting the releases. Whatever their intention, it was always their plan, they didn't just decide to cram an iPad Pro into a smaller chassis in the space of 4 months.

So it's more expensive. All that means is, well, it's more expensive. It also capable of doing more. There's plenty of diversity in the iPad line, especially now, so there's plenty of choice when it comes to price.

There's also the (perhaps slim) possibility that the price is different because they are thinking of keeping three lines of iPad and at some point there may be an Air 3. It's unlikely, but then so was a 12.9" iPad not so long ago. What is certain is that this is the situation we have. You can choose to buy any one of 5 different iPads at the moment, it's not hard to choose between them, you can even comparer them all in a line on the Apple website to see which one fits your needs best. Seems pretty much straightforward to me.
 
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Just like when Apple renamed the iPad "air", it's just a branding situation here. They could've just gone with numbers like the iPhone, but they want a name that projects an idea. "Pro" is a new name that has a certain meaning behind it. People hear it and think "oh. That sounds like an upgrade from my existing tablet!" And run out and buy it

The name is meaningless at this point
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Certain people might get the wrong idea

Lol, I suppose it's actually fairly modest to refer to your 13 incher (where 12.9" CLEARLY rounds to...) as your "12 incher" though... ;0)
 
There's also the (perhaps slim) possibility that the price is different because they are thinking of keeping three lines of iPad and at some point there may be an Air 3.

I actually suspect we are moving towards something like this:
iPad 7.9" & 9.7"
iPad Pro 9.7" & 12.9"

This aligns well with what the MacBook lineup looked like before the transistion to Retina displays began:
MacBook Air 11" & 13"
MacBook Pro 13", 15" & 17"

I have a suspicion that the 9.7" Pro might wind up being a shorter life span model if they want to keep updating the iPads in the fall. Because the next update can push new chips into the Pros and sort out some of the fiddly differences between the two sizes, and then both the Mini and Air get updates as the "new" iPad.
 
I actually suspect we are moving towards something like this:
iPad 7.9" & 9.7"
iPad Pro 9.7" & 12.9"

This. My confusion is very much centered around dual 9.7" iPads.

Given that the 9.7" iPad Pro is not simply a name change but a price increase, does this mean that there is still an iPad Air 4?

Or are they going to pull the same thing they did with the 12" MacBook and introduce a weird in-between "iPad" (no suffix) with a 10.5" screen and no bezels / volume / power / smart connector / Pencil support / headphone jack except a new ... <contemplates the most ridiculous thing I can think of>... Cumulonimbus wireless port....?
 
Maybe the Pro iPads will have desktop capabilities in the next version of iOS. Things like being able to run pro apps like Photoshop and Final Cut.
 
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Maybe the Pro iPads will have desktop capabilities in the next version of iOS. Things like being able to run pro apps like Photoshop and Final Cut.

As long as people aren't willing to pay Pro level prices for iOS apps ($50-$200), and deal with yearly upgrade costs, or agree with expensive subscription costs ($20+/month), this won't happen.

The problem isn't iOS, not with a 4GB RAM device and multitasking features that iOS 9 brings - there isn't any incentive for software developers to build pro level apps if people aren't willing to pay.
 
I actually suspect we are moving towards something like this:
iPad 7.9" & 9.7"
iPad Pro 9.7" & 12.9"

This aligns well with what the MacBook lineup looked like before the transistion to Retina displays began:
MacBook Air 11" & 13"
MacBook Pro 13", 15" & 17"

I have a suspicion that the 9.7" Pro might wind up being a shorter life span model if they want to keep updating the iPads in the fall. Because the next update can push new chips into the Pros and sort out some of the fiddly differences between the two sizes, and then both the Mini and Air get updates as the "new" iPad.


Makes sense, after all if you just ignore the Mini and Air bits, that's what we have now.
 
And brightness. And reflectivity. And color gamut.

You know, screen stuff.
It's funny how specs matter to you when Apple markets them...

And for the record, whether Apple makes it a point to market them or not specs DO matter.
 
Yep, i think everyone is in the same boat.
I dont think theres anything pro about either of them, they should have gone just with +
That's exactly what I think too. I bought the 9.7 Pro and it's laughable to think it can replace my MacBook. I still hope we get an iPad with a toggle option for OSX and iOS one day.
 
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That's exactly what I think too. I bought the 9.7 Pro and it's laughable to think it can replace my MacBook. I still hope we get an iPad with a toggle option for OSX and iOS one day.

I hope not, not unless they give it a serious overhaul. I've tried OS X on a tablet, it's as bad as, well, Windows (desktop) on a tablet.
 
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Some good and interesting discussion in this thread. I think one thing is for certain, Apple likely debated this internally at length.

Would be nice to see a clean lineup as mentioned by others, where the name is a descriptor for screen size, and all models get newest tech:

iPad mini (7.9")
iPad Air (9.7")
iPad Pro (12.9")

However, with Apple calling multiple iPads the iPad Pro, I think it's more likely that they're trying to expand the line. I don't think the air will go away resulting in a lineup like this:

iPad mini (7.9")
iPad Pro (9.7")
iPad Pro (12.9")

I also can't see the mini name going away or changing for the 7.9". Though I'm sure anything can happen. Maybe an Air line and a Pro line similar to the MacBooks a few years ago?

7.9" iPad Air
9.7" iPad Air

9.7" iPad Pro
12.9" iPad Pro

Maybe even a possible 7.9" iPad Pro with Pencil support in the future?

I could live with the naming of multiple families of iPads to cover more price points, but I'd love to see the previous models go. Would be nice to just see all models based on more recent hardware (Similar to the iPhone SE at the lower price point but with the A9).
 
It's funny how specs matter to you when Apple markets them...

And for the record, whether Apple makes it a point to market them or not specs DO matter.

You have me confused with someone else. Specs matter to me whether Apple markets them or not.

Which was the point of my post. The screen is better despite the same ppi.

Your post? I have no idea where you're coming from or where you're going. But thanks for trying.
 
I think the Pro name is part of a marketing tactic used to help notch up the price to a higher level. Loads of companies use similar naming conventions.
Agreed, the Pro name is help to logically justify the higher price but at the same time I think at least with my twisted logic, that the marketing is failing because its not differentiating the products.
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The last "P" in the iPP should've been "Plus" not "Pro". But if Apple did that, there would still be rumors about another device that be "Pro" like the Surface.
The term pro doesn't bother me, but the fact that we have two different iPads with the name pro, makes life a little more confusing.
 
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The naming convention, Air, Pro etc etc is purely marketing faff. They're only names. Personally, im not concerned what its called or what's hidden in the meaning of the meaningless name that so many peeps worry about, i dont even care about specs. As a non techie layman all i care about is a fabulous experience, and the Pro certainly delivers on all aspects for me.

It is a bit silly though. I have a couple of friends most recently entering the 'ipad' world for the first time. Yes, looking at Apple's web site it isnt hard to fast grasp there's 3 different sizes and you can also fast grasp the names. But the relevance and meaning of these names made them laugh. I agree.
 
Well that depends own your definition of better screen, which naturally could vary wildly from mine. As far as I'm concerned the 12.9" iPad Pro has a better screen simply because of it's size. The 9.7" iPad Pro has a better screen because of it's true-tone display. So both of them to me offer an improvement one way or another over the iPad Air 2.

The processor is most definitely not the same, not by a long shot. One has a triple core A8X, the other two have dual core A9X. The iPad Air 2 gets close to the 9.7" iPad Pro in multi-core performance, thanks to that brilliant 3 core A8X.

But it doesn't come close to the A9X in single core performance, which is the more important one for general use. Only processor intensive things like video editing, certain photo editing, (some) games and so on are going to benefit from multi-core performance.

I'm not comparing anything to the Air and have never done, so i have no clue why you have gone there... my only comment is around how crazy the name is and that size doesn't make a device pro hence the sarcasm of the " 13" MBA pro". I'm talking only about the 2 so called pro devices.... with A9X, and the previous poster was correct on reflection, size could mean "better", but could equally mean "worse" or even just the "same" when it comes to the screen, however the 9.7 screen has better software features so i guess that needs to be pro pro? :rolleyes:
 
9.7" should be SemiPro. Feels like 2012 because my phone had 2GB DRAM back then.
 
The new 9.7' is clearly the evolutionary successor to the Air yet they name it Pro just like the big one. So how do they differentiate the Pro naming? With decimal points.

Sure, we all memorized 7.9 and 9.7 and 12.9 and what it refers. But what about regular people. Because if the iPad is supposed to be "Computing Simplified" then why make naming so complicated to discuss or search for.

This is what an Apple lineup should look like. Obvious, Distinct and Simple.

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I think it should be Mini, Plus, Pro.
 
The new 9.7' is clearly the evolutionary successor to the Air yet they name it Pro just like the big one. So how do they differentiate the Pro naming? With decimal points.

Sure, we all memorized 7.9 and 9.7 and 12.9 and what it refers. But what about regular people. Because if the iPad is supposed to be "Computing Simplified" then why make naming so complicated to discuss or search for.

This is what an Apple lineup should look like. Obvious, Distinct and Simple.

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Not obvious or simple at all. First, we need to stop equating bigger with better. In computing, pros often choose smaller and lighter. Second, what is obvious about the difference between Air and Mini? Nothing if you don't already know what they are.

What would be simple is if they all had the same basic capabilities and were primarily differentiated by size. All of them are simply iPads.
 
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