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iPad Pro iPad pro + Remote Desktop. Perfect laptop replacement?

I have been using Remote Desktop for a long time, and have always been very happy with it... until I got a Dell XPS 13 laptop with a 3200x1800 touch screen. Awesome laptop, except for RD. My RD Windows 10 server has fairly old / low resolution monitors (1680 x 1050) and the resolution discrepancy makes the RD display absolutely tiny and totally unreadable. I have tried all the possible scaling options with various RD clients, but never managed to solve the problem apart from lowering my laptop resolution.
Now I am very tempted to get a iPad Pro 12.9, but the resolution and pixel density being also very high, I am worried to encounter the same issue.

Any feedback? Thanks,

A.
 
alainlevy said:
I have been using Remote Desktop for a long time, and have always been very happy with it... until I got a Dell XPS 13 laptop with a 3200x1800 touch screen. Awesome laptop, except for RD. My RD Windows 10 server has fairly old / low resolution monitors (1680 x 1050) and the resolution discrepancy makes the RD display absolutely tiny and totally unreadable. I have tried all the possible scaling options with various RD clients, but never managed to solve the problem apart from lowering my laptop resolution.
Now I am very tempted to get a iPad Pro 12.9, but the resolution and pixel density being also very high, I am worried to encounter the same issue.

Any feedback? Thanks,

A.
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I have a similar setup with my work Surface Pro 4 at home. From my experiments with the iPad Pro 12.9 I found Jump Desktop to work best with the Citrix X1 mouse. Of course, I also tried Jump Desktop on the Surface Pro 4, and it works quite well for me. In the office I have a Dell with 1920x1200 Resolution, which renders text a little bit small on the 12" Surface screen, but on my 28" 4k external monitor it looks fantastic.
 
After purchasing my iPad Pro 12.9" AT&T, I wasn't using it as a laptop replacement. Then one day I went on a business trip and realized that I grabbed my daughter's MacBook Pro rather than mine. This was great if I wanted to do 2nd grade homework. Not so great if I needed to get my revenue budget or flash done.

I have the Zagg Slimbook Case with Keyboard. I found the documents that I needed in my email as attachments. Opened them on the iPad Pro and went to work. Truthfully, if it had not been for the missing touch pad and having to touch the screen, I wouldn't have noticed much. Since that time, I've started using OneDrive to store files and have added Cisco's AnyConnect to my iPad Pro. I have actually travelled without my MacBook a few times just using the iPad Pro. It can be an excellent replacement for a MacBook on trips.

That Apple Pencil is great for signing invoices or other documents to send in email.
 
Southern Dad said:
After purchasing my iPad Pro 12.9" AT&T, I wasn't using it as a laptop replacement. Then one day I went on a business trip and realized that I grabbed my daughter's MacBook Pro rather than mine. This was great if I wanted to do 2nd grade homework. Not so great if I needed to get my revenue budget or flash done.

I have the Zagg Slimbook Case with Keyboard. I found the documents that I needed in my email as attachments. Opened them on the iPad Pro and went to work. Truthfully, if it had not been for the missing touch pad and having to touch the screen, I wouldn't have noticed much. Since that time, I've started using OneDrive to store files and have added Cisco's AnyConnect to my iPad Pro. I have actually travelled without my MacBook a few times just using the iPad Pro. It can be an excellent replacement for a MacBook on trips.

That Apple Pencil is great for signing invoices or other documents to send in email.
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Yeah, I really think it depends on what you're trying to accomplish. For what it appears you do, an iPad Pro works perfectly. It does for me as well for about 95% of what I need. For that 5%, I can always remote into my Mac and finish the job. It wasn't always like this in iPad-land. This is a direct result of an advancement in iPad app capabilities and in iCloud. Being able to use the iCloud Drive app like a file system for attaching files to emails, etc., is huge.
 
My ipad 12.9 I love love it. Its the first one , I wasnt unhappy with. I also have a slimbook keyboard for it. I wish they would allow mouse control on it because it would be a perfect laptop replacement for me. But they wont do that because they want us to also buy macbooks. lol
 
atlantamac said:
My ipad 12.9 I love love it. Its the first one , I wasnt unhappy with. I also have a slimbook keyboard for it. I wish they would allow mouse control on it because it would be a perfect laptop replacement for me. But they wont do that because they want us to also buy macbooks. lol
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Add a mouse and keyboard cover to an iPad Pro and I feel like you have a touch-screen laptop! Really, what would the difference be, then, other than the OS? I think that is the way Apple should go -- most consumers don't need Macs/PCs. Traditional computers are trucks, like Jobs said. They are needed for big jobs, but most people get along fine with just cars, that is, tablet computers.
 
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Add a mouse and keyboard cover to an iPad Pro and I feel like you have a touch-screen laptop! Really, what would the difference be, then, other than the OS? I think that is the way Apple should go -- most consumers don't need Macs/PCs. Traditional computers are trucks, like Jobs said. They are needed for big jobs, but most people get along fine with just cars, that is, tablet computers.
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You are right. For me for work its emails, dont need my macbook pro on the road for that.
 
Night Spring said:
Strictly speaking, if you are remoting into your laptop, you aren't replacing it, you are using it remotely.
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True, but now certain workflows could now be done with two devices instead of three. I already have an iPad, a desktop and a laptop. I could just use the iPad when I need to go mobile, instead of heavier, more expensive laptop. And potentially harness more power, because I'm connected to a desktop instead of using a laptop. I like it!

Also I could leave a cheap, clunky, but powerful Windows PC on sitting in the corner, and use my beautiful Apple iPad to interface to it. Very cool.

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One thing I forgot to mention as a benefit of this type of setup is that I never have to maintain a second development/work environment. In my work, that's actually quite a bit of time and effort saved. Even with tools to help automate it, you still have to keep all that set up.
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Another awesome advantage. Loving this thread...
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Night Spring said:
Add a mouse and keyboard cover to an iPad Pro and I feel like you have a touch-screen laptop! Really, what would the difference be, then, other than the OS? I think that is the way Apple should go -- most consumers don't need Macs/PCs. Traditional computers are trucks, like Jobs said. They are needed for big jobs, but most people get along fine with just cars, that is, tablet computers.
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Totally agree. I was interested in buying an iPad as laptop replacement, but couldn't due to lack of mouse capability. That was the deal breaker (for me). They might not add mouse capability to not canibalize on laptop sales. But it cost them an iPad sale, which supposedly has higher profit margins. :confused:
 
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True, but now certain workflows could now be done with two devices instead of three. I already have an iPad, a desktop and a laptop. I could just use the iPad when I need to go mobile, instead of heavier, more expensive laptop. And potentially harness more power, because I'm connected to a desktop instead of using a laptop. I like it!

Also I could leave a cheap, clunky, but powerful Windows PC on sitting in the corner, and use my beautiful Apple iPad to interface to it. Very cool.



Another awesome advantage. Loving this thread...
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Totally agree. I was interested in buying an iPad as laptop replacement, but couldn't due to lack of mouse capability. That was the deal breaker (for me). They might not add mouse capability to not canibalize on laptop sales. But it cost them an iPad sale, which supposedly has higher profit margins. :confused:
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I would buy a Pro iPad so fast if they had mouse support!
 
Hi, I encountered this excellent thread made four years ago. With iPad OS, possibility to use a mouse and the latest technology, what software do you recommend if I want to securely remote access the following from my iPP 12.9" with high res screen in the public using wifi:

1) Windows 10 PC at home
2) Linux workstation at home
 
hajime said:
Hi, I encountered this excellent thread made four years ago. With iPad OS, possibility to use a mouse and the latest technology, what software do you recommend if I want to securely remote access the following from my iPP 12.9" with high res screen in the public using wifi:

1) Windows 10 PC at home
2) Linux workstation at home
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Mouse over remote desktop only partially works, there is no scrolling and no right click. Only left click. Do you think it's enough? I don't....
 
hajime said:
Hi, I encountered this excellent thread made four years ago. With iPad OS, possibility to use a mouse and the latest technology, what software do you recommend if I want to securely remote access the following from my iPP 12.9" with high res screen in the public using wifi:

1) Windows 10 PC at home
2) Linux workstation at home
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I would suggest Jump Desktop for that! It's available on the App Store for a limited amount of money and it works with W10 and Linux. It works with the new IOS13 mouse support but it is much better with a compatible mouse like the Citrix X1 mouse. With that you have all the features (like right click) and the same feeling as a "real" Windows/Linux mouse.

I am using it for years with my iPads and I am absolutely happy with it...
 
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AlexJoda said:
I would suggest Jump Desktop for that! It's available on the App Store for a limited amount of money and it works with W10 and Linux. It works with the new IOS13 mouse support but it is much better with a compatible mouse like the Citrix X1 mouse. With that you have all the features (like right click) and the same feeling as a "real" Windows/Linux mouse.

I am using it for years with my iPads and I am absolutely happy with it...
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Jump desktop only makes sense with a compatible mouse, and with that it's the best, and it works with any IOS from 7.0 on. Without a compatible mouse on IOS 13 it's no better than other free options (it has exactly the same limitations). If you can spend around $80 between the cheapest compatible mouse and the app, there is no competition. Otherwise use a free app like VNC viewer or Chrome remote
 
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Thanks. I am a bit confused about Jump Desktop’s compatibility with Linux. On their website, they mentioned that one needs to install Jump Desktop Connect which is available only in Windows and Mac OS versions. How does this work if I want to connect to a Linux workstation?

https://support.jumpdesktop.com/hc/en-us/articles/360025731531-Setup-Unattended-Remote-Access
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It has to be done manually, without the connect app. From their website:"
Jump is compatible with the remote desktop feature available on most Linux systems, however Jump's automatic configuration via a Gmail account is currently not supported on Linux (you need a PC or Mac to use automatic configuration).

You'll need to manually configure Jump with your Linux computer's host address. You can enter the computer's IP address by tapping the plus button ("+") on the top right hand corner of Jump's main screen. Also, be sure to tap the "VNC" button when creating the connection for your Linux computer.

Further more, Jump also has SSH encryption and port forwarding built-in which is also compatible with most Linux SSH servers. We recommend using this feature for better privacy."
I have never done it myself, so no idea how easy it is or how well it works, especially outside of your local network....
 
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just been testing mouse support on ipados beta. Pretty damn good. With that plus bluetooth keyboard support (and being able to connect the pro fairly easily to a monitor - I just used the same dongle I use for my MBP and it worked) - I think it would be able to do most jobs I use a computer for.

so 95% yes - but there will likely always be outlying apps or workflows we are used to that we can't completely replace - but that arguably is no different from picking between windows/OSX/Linux - all are pretty interchangable depending on your specific requirements and how able you are to compromise/work around the gaps (which all platforms will have)
 
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just been testing mouse support on ipados beta. Pretty damn good. With that plus bluetooth keyboard support (and being able to connect the pro fairly easily to a monitor - I just used the same dongle I use for my MBP and it worked) - I think it would be able to do most jobs I use a computer for.

so 95% yes - but there will likely always be outlying apps or workflows we are used to that we can't completely replace - but that arguably is no different from picking between windows/OSX/Linux - all are pretty interchangable depending on your specific requirements and how able you are to compromise/work around the gaps (which all platforms will have)
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One inconvenience I found is that the iOS version of Blackboard used in school has limitation on the most basic things such as vertical and horizontal scrolling. Another limitation is that iPP with iPad OS still cannot be used to connect to microcontroller boards for engineering projects.
 
AlexJoda said:
I would suggest Jump Desktop for that! It's available on the App Store for a limited amount of money and it works with W10 and Linux. It works with the new IOS13 mouse support but it is much better with a compatible mouse like the Citrix X1 mouse. With that you have all the features (like right click) and the same feeling as a "real" Windows/Linux mouse.

I am using it for years with my iPads and I am absolutely happy with it...
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I completely agree. iPad Pro, ASK and Citrix mouse owner here. 99% of my work and leisure computing is done on my iPad Pro. For that 1% were I can’t, I remote into a headless MacMini using Jump Desktop and a mouse.
 
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I completely agree. iPad Pro, ASK and Citrix mouse owner here. 99% of my work and leisure computing is done on my iPad Pro. For that 1% were I can’t, I remote into a headless MacMini using Jump Desktop and a mouse.
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Which ASK app are you talking about?
 
I'll let you know in a week. I'm Security and Systems Engineer. I have a work issued Surface Pro 4 that I normally take on trips with me. I now have a 12.9 iPad Pro. I'm using a Hyperdrive to connect to an old Logitech Mac keyboard I have and a ProPoint mouse (the one that works natively with VMware Horizon as well as most other remote desktop apps). I'm able to use my Horizon View machine just as easily as I would with the Surface from what I've seen in testing. It is a fair bit lighter than the SP4 and the battery life is quite a bit better.

I'm flying out for a conference on Saturday and for the first time I'm leaving my Surface at my desk. I suspect that I won't miss it. If it works out as well as I hope, when my SP4 comes up for refresh in November I'm going to replace it with a beasty desktop instead and save the company several hundred in the process.
 
Farsider said:
I completely agree. iPad Pro, ASK and Citrix mouse owner here. 99% of my work and leisure computing is done on my iPad Pro. For that 1% were I can’t, I remote into a headless MacMini using Jump Desktop and a mouse.
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Thanks. The Citrix mouse is a mystery to me. What so special about it compared with other mouse? It can fully function on iPad Pro but not the others even under iPad OS's new mouse function? From the following video, it seems to work with Jump Desktop but not iOS. The video was made last year before the announcement of iPad OS. His statement might be wrong. Has anybody tried this mouse under iPad OS Beta?



Where can I buy it in Canada? Cannot find any place that sells it.
 
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