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iPad Pro still doesn't ship with USB-C charger?
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You work for Apple? If not the iPhone 8 doesn't exist yet and thus no idea if it has USB C.
Mmm, No. That is just relative to however much faster it can charge with other equipment. But that is not standard equipment, nor should it be included.
The point I'm making is very clearly the difference between standard equipment and high performance equipment. The standard equipment is more common, and fits with the ecosystem of other standard equipment that many people already have. The high performance equipment is optional (and unnecessary). You might think it is better for you, because you apparently value fast charging (of a device that already lasts all day and could just be recharged overnight...). It would not be better for me, because I don't value fast charging of iPad at all. What I do value is every additional Lightning-to-USB-A cable that comes with every Apple device I purchase.
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Oh...I can tell you if iPhone X has USB-C or not, if you want to know?
It doesn't.
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No, the iPhone X will not ship that cable.
99% of users would look at it and say WTF is this? It doesn't plug into anything (except the brick it ships with).
iPhone X is going to sport inductive charging, all of the focus is going to be on that.
Normally I would mostly agree, but come on, the 12.9" sometimes keeps discharging when plugged in...
Which means you are using it heavily while charging it. This speaks to a completely different use case from the average user. If you are high performance user, buy the high performance equipment. There is no reason for Apple to include expensive high performance equipment, that has uncommon connectors.
Has anyone successfully used a third party usb c charger with the 12.9? I have seen on some amazon reviews that they are funny about it and won’t charge faster but wonder if it has changed with iOS 11
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I disagree on this. First of all, I don't think I need to use it that heavily for that to happen. Second, it's called iPad Pro, and that implies high performance. Third, in my opinion, no devices should EVER turn off when plugged into power. It's a no go. Anyway, I respect your opinion
1. I owned a 12.9" model for a year and half. Never experienced this.
2. "Pro" does not imply I want it to ship with a uncommon cable that doesn't fit in with my gigantic ecosystem of Lightning-to-USB-A cables, chargers, and devices.
3. The iPad battery is how the iPad is supposed to be used. And it lasts all day. If you have to plug it in to keep using it, there is something wrong with your iPad, or your usage is excessive.
Well, like I said, I respect your opinion. Let's just agree to disagree =)
EH, I'd rather you refute the points individually. Otherwise I can just assume they are irrefutable.
my argument with the ipad is the ipad pro 12.9 has a 41 watt hour battery and the Macbook has a 41.4 watt battery. They are basically the same 41 watts battery yet they say that the macbook needs a 29 watt battery charger but the ipad does not. if it doesn't matter and they are the same watt battery why not give the macbook the crappy 12 watt adapter and see how the macbook users feel. if it's required for the macbook it should be required for the 12.9 ipad. it's the same damn battery.
Good lord the device is called iPad Pro! It should ship with Pro accessories. I use the 29w charger to charge my iPhone too. Plus new Mac laptops are shipping with USB-C only so why ship an adapter that has a USB-A cable? One can easily get a cheaper lightning to USB-A cable for the car or that connects to an older laptop that doesn't have USB-C.
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For #2, you can easily get a cheap lightning to USB-A cable for your ecosystem that requires it. The 29w USB-C adapter has lightning on the other end so it will charge any lightning device you have. For #3, as someone else mentioned the 12.9 iPad Pro battery is nearly the same size as the rMB battery yet only the latter ships with the 29w charger. What is the difference that they should ship with different chargers?
It is just the charger. Nothing "Pro" about a charger.
Who cares about plugging a iPad into a Mac? Isn't the iPad Pro supposed to replace that for most buyers? You can't even make the argument that strongly, since this only even applies to a few million sold relatively new Macs. Small, small niche concern.
That's not really the point. A cable like this included with the product would be worthless for me, and would go in drawer and never get used. It would be the odd cable out. Fine if I go out and buy that on purpose. Not fine when it is the only thing included with the product.
Not always. I've had it not charging when simply typing in Notes.app. I haven't been able to determine under which specific conditions the iPad will not charge. But early on I bought the 29W charger and USB C cable so that isn't so much of a concern for me unless I'm traveling and only have the 12W charger with me.
That's a matter of opinion. A 12.9" iPad marketed as a "Pro" device will attract high performance users. But the way Apple sells the 12.9 now is to sell it as though it is the entry level 2017 9.7 iPad. Clearly you can see the disconnect there and why people think it should be otherwise.
It's about the package, and when it starts to approach MacBook prices, is a higher wattage charger that big of a deal?
If you don't care about plugging into a computer then not a big deal if it includes Lightning to USB-C cable in the box instead?
Is your argument here that you already have a host of USB-A to Lightning cables & chargers around that you use to charge your 12.9 (as well as other devices). Something like this?
If that's your only argument, its really not one. This is the charger we're talking about here. It's not optional storage or a memory booster.
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"Computer" would fit more in the category of installed devices with USB-A ports. Macs w/ USB-C ports are another thing altogether, and minuscule by comparison.
Sure things like that, but also other accessories and just general USB-A availability.
Got many outlets with USB-C ports on them do ya?
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Nope, Lightning will be the last I/O iPhone ever has. Within a few years it will be used as often as the diagnostics port on Apple Watch.
Using your logic, Apple could throw in a 12W charger for the rMB and you'd find that acceptable. That's ok. Because we're all just expressing our opinions. Mine just differs from yours.
I'm just saying, if you're not worried about plugging it into a computer (I'm definitely not), then does it matter which charging cable + block it includes. But I guess if you have a lot of USB-A plugs around then maybe that is still important to you. Actually, when you say "outlets", are you referring to wall receptacles that have USB-A plugs built in?
Me, I have zero in terms of USB-C at this point. But I have a few chargers around like the picture I shared (it's usually where we plug in different iPads and iOS devices in the house). Most new devices I get I usually leave the cable and charger in the box, as I have more than enough options already for charging, and many lightning cables around. I wouldn't mind if it instead came with a 29W charger + USB-C, this way I could have on hand for when I need a faster charge.
I wonder if with time we'll see more iOS devices getting the ability to charge using PD over USB-C. If eventually all MacBooks, iPads and iPhones can make use of USB-C PD, would apple move to bundling Lightning to USB-C instead of A?
Good grief.
Numerous people disagree with your opinion, but have been very respectful about it...yet you keep pushing. As others have repeatedly said, it’s ok that you are of the opinion that Apple should ship the lower-wattage charger with the 12.9 iPad. Again, it’s ok that you feel this way. However, the majority of us think Apple should have shipped a charger that was sized appropriately for the device it is being used for. There is nothing wrong with varying opinions. You can have yours and the majority in this thread can have their opinions. There’s no need for you to try and push others buttons because you disagree with their point of view.
The majority of 8 people in a thread. Not the majority of iPad customers. Think outside the blog.
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No, Apple includes what is appropriate.
There is a more expensive high performance option available for purchase. The end.
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I'm referring to exactly that, plus what it represents: the gigantic world of USB-A. Something USB-C is not at all a part of. And won't be, for a very very long time.
Now that they're suddenly everywhere (outlets, public charging spots, airplanes, etc) USB is finally moving on, lol. I feel like these old ports will be around forever now. I myself prefer to have control over the charging block and know what kind of amperage & voltage it supplies.
LOL. You’re still upset that others have a different view than you. I’m sorry that you have this kind of frustration in your life. The end.