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iPad Pro iPad Pro: Very Disappointing
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Strange, I do not see that propaganda at all. The best marketing take on the iPad is "Maybe your next computer is not a computer". It means that instead of a traditional Mac, you maybe able to use a iPad (or smartphone) instead and for many that is true. It does not mean that iPad is going to be a one to one feature replacement for a Mac and what would be the point of that?
I can see the point of that wish. The laptop format is 30 years old and can be perceived stale compared to the slicker and more versatile iPad. A dual boot would be better than changing the iPadOS too much.
A humble "for me" from both sides would make the discussions less polarised and much more rewarding. Humans have by nature a tribe mentality which is so strong and unpolished on the internet which leads to polarisation.
- A MacBook that had a hinge that allowed it to act as a tablet and incorporated things like a touch screen, 5G, iPad apps, would be very cool some day.
- If you want this future device so much that you can't get the idea out of your head, for the foreseeable future you will probably only be happy if you have both the laptop you want and the iPad you want, despite that being a very expensive combination.
Both these things can be true at the same time, and being able to see this would probably stop a lot of the arguments here. I'm on an 11" M1 iPad Pro and a 16" M3 Pro MBP. It's expensive, but I am truly content with my setup in a way that I never was before.
Absolutely, there are some people who frequent these discussions who interpret any discussion of the iPad's limitations as a personal attack. It's bizarre - you can't even have a conversation.
- If you want this future device so much that you can't get the idea out of your head, for the foreseeable future you will probably only be happy if you have both the laptop you want and the iPad you want, despite that being a very expensive combination.
Both these things can be true at the same time, and being able to see this would probably stop a lot of the arguments here. I'm on an 11" M1 iPad Pro and a 16" M3 Pro MBP. It's expensive, but I am truly content with my setup in a way that I never was before.
Absolutely, there are some people who frequent these discussions who interpret any discussion of the iPad's limitations as a personal attack. It's bizarre - you can't even have a conversation.
So, another ‘I wish Apple would make the iPad into a Mac because I should have just bought a MacBook Air’ threads. *sigh*
The iPad Pro is a digital Swiss Army knife. Its capabilities outweigh its weaknesses but if you’re not using them you’re going to feel short changed.
Just sell it and get an M2 MacBook At instead. You’ll be a lot happier my friend.
The iPad Pro is a digital Swiss Army knife. Its capabilities outweigh its weaknesses but if you’re not using them you’re going to feel short changed.
Just sell it and get an M2 MacBook At instead. You’ll be a lot happier my friend.
The iPad Pro is a very very niche device for the price and feature set. If you aren't using the large screen, or Lider (or whatever it's called), and you don't know why you need an iPad Pro; then you don't need it.
An iPad Air works just as well as the Pro.
For your use case, I don't think an iPad would work well as a main device
I recommend an MacBook Air.
An iPad Air works just as well as the Pro.
For your use case, I don't think an iPad would work well as a main device
I recommend an MacBook Air.Well, Apple will program compromised into macOS around their stupid notch on the MBP, but they won’t program compromises around detaching a screen from a keyboard.
They just believe that selling you two devices is better than one. It’s in their DNA (after some mutations over the past decade) and they will hold on to that disposition until (if) product people take over again.
They are currently trying to enter new markets instead of innovating in the markets they are already in. All talk of “this market is saturated, nothing left to do” is merely rhetoric to protect their their status quo revenue stream.
I tried to make the iPad work for me so many times and it never worked out for me. Eventually always ended up as “just another device I need to charge”. My M1 MBAir is just too good (and a 15 Pro does the rest). The iPad was always a device I bought to get me out of compromises I was making with the MB+phone combo and always made me get into new compromises. I just learned to live with what I have (and cannot do without).
My advice is to just let the iPad go and try not to fantasize about how it would make your life easier. Any improvements it comes with end up introducing new troubles.
They just believe that selling you two devices is better than one. It’s in their DNA (after some mutations over the past decade) and they will hold on to that disposition until (if) product people take over again.
They are currently trying to enter new markets instead of innovating in the markets they are already in. All talk of “this market is saturated, nothing left to do” is merely rhetoric to protect their their status quo revenue stream.
I tried to make the iPad work for me so many times and it never worked out for me. Eventually always ended up as “just another device I need to charge”. My M1 MBAir is just too good (and a 15 Pro does the rest). The iPad was always a device I bought to get me out of compromises I was making with the MB+phone combo and always made me get into new compromises. I just learned to live with what I have (and cannot do without).
My advice is to just let the iPad go and try not to fantasize about how it would make your life easier. Any improvements it comes with end up introducing new troubles.
I also would like to have Mac OS on the iPad Pro. The perfect implementation for me would be to have Mac OS enabled when the iPad is being used as a desktop hooked to external monitor, keyboard, and mouse or trackpad....and revert to iPad OS for tablet mode. If they can't do it this way, how about something like VMware Fusion or Parallels Desktop, again giving us the ability to use either iPad OS or Mac OS, and possibly Windows for those use it.
That would be my dream iPad Pro setup.
In the meantime it's Jump Desktop Connect for Mac OS, or MS Remote Desktop for Windows.
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100% of the innovation that needs to happen in all Apple's markets is entirely software based. Making a phone that folds in half or a laptop with dual displays doesn't solve any of the weaknesses of the Android or Windows platforms and it won't on Apples.
So again you're going to fall back on Apple's marketing as your excuse, instead of just reality. Yikes.
Definitely agree that people with little to no character, intellect, or redeeming qualities will say things to people on the internet that they'd never have the nerve to say to their face. See it all the time. Even right here at MacRumors.
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Allow me to retort:
iPad - Why iPad
iPad is so versatile, it’s more than up to any task. Get things done in both fun and powerful ways with iPad.
www.apple.com
“iPad is so versatile, it’s more than up to any task.
iPad works with the powerful apps you’re familiar with, like Adobe Photoshop or Microsoft Office, with the added ease of using them with touch.“
Absolutely the same here. Over two years of using it as a laptop to run my real estate business, and it just doesn't get old.
Well I mean it's not a laptop. No offence but what did you expect? Have you not used an iPad before and realised it's just a big iPhone with a crippling OS not suited to any serious work except drawing?
You are funny! Got a good laugh out of that opinion. Thing is, I been using my M1 iPad Pro 11 for serious work for 2 plus years now. Running my real estate and property management business with it cut my work flow, and just made my work fun again. Gets better every day, and just doesn't get old. Seems your "blanket opinion" was just for you, and others who have a workflow that it doesn't fit, and I understand that, but your one size opinion just doesn't fit everyone's iPad use.
well it's a real estate business...
not that that's not something that has a place in the world, but it's really not rocket science or art
Keep throwing that fishing line out there. Something will bite sooner or later.
So? Many would argue art isn't needed in society. Don't judge another person's profession.
Could you possibly be any more condescending?
He's too busy crawling under the proverbial snakes belly right now to reply.
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I always said a Microsoft Surface Pro with an Nvidia 4000 card would be awesome. Well, there it is. Weird looking thing though.
@Rafterman I was responding to that comment by @Digitalguy. I’m curious to see if there are any reviews or comparisons to an Apple Silicon MBPro.
“We do not see things as they are. We see things as we are.”
— Rabbi Shemuel ben Nachmani, as quoted in the Talmudic tractate Berakhot (55b.)
“Forgive him, for he believes that the customs of his tribe are the laws of nature!”
― George Bernard Shaw”Big iPhone .. my a$$”
— Paraphrasing Phil Schiller
In case you need some proof points: Please see attachments for four previously Mac-exclusive use cases that are easily performed on my iPad Pro from the couch, bed and sometimes the toilet seat.
P.S. None of these use cases are drawing. The two that might tempt you are actually graphics design and illustration. Professionals know the difference.
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Some people need to be more creative in how to find a use case for their ipad. For me, it's a far more versatile device than a standard laptop. And not everyone is a YouTuber who needs a full OS to render out videos everywhere they go.