iPad Pro iPad Pro: Very Disappointing

[sparksd]

I’m confused, you still said that line about it having no future. Yea they left off the end where you said if they’re going to be large iPhones or however you worded it but nonetheless you still said it had no future.

Agree or disagree with the original, removing the caveat makes the statement a harsher-sounding absolute, which it was not.

 

[Dopestdude2]

Agree or disagree with the original, removing the caveat makes the statement a harsher-sounding absolute, which it was not.

I don’t think it changes much of anything; their original post was already fairly harsh sounding absolute to begin with.

To each their own how it’s interpreted tho.

 

[TechnoMonk]

I’m confused, you still said that line about it having no future. Yea they left off the end where you said if they’re going to be large iPhones or however you worded it but nonetheless you still said it had no future.

Op sounds genuinely frustrated, heck I would be too if I had that experience and those issues. But I do see same folks jumping with old cliches, with out any interest in helping OP.

 

[Dopestdude2]

Op sounds genuinely frustrated, heck I would be too if I had that experience and issues. But I do see same folks jumping with old cliches, with out any interest in helping OP.

Oh totally. I thinks it’s hard to come to a fan forum like this with a negative experience. I’m not overly surprised there isn’t people lining up to agree with OP.

 

[Isamilis]

I’ve had my 11” iPad Pro since December — about four months now. Now that I’ve put it through its paces, I think I can say confidently that this is a very disappointing product.

I bought it with 512 GB of storage, the M2 processor, 8 GB of RAM, the cellular radio and the Magic Keyboard. For a product at this price point, it is a terrible laptop. I can definitely see the value of a $300 or $400 iPad as an entertainment toy. It’s great at downloading movies for playback while on long flights. But at the price of the iPad Pro, it’s well into laptop territory, as is the hardware capabilities… but it badly disappoints.

I’m not sure where to begin, but the Safari browser is very weak, and so is text selection and editing. Select/copy/paste works so-so on the iPhone, but on a platform like iPad Pro, I should have no difficulty selecting text for copy/paste. But it doesn’t work well on this platform. I downloaded Microsoft Office, and found its performance is fairly slow. I tried brining in RAW photos from my camera for editing with Adobe Lightroom, and it was close to unusable, especially compared to using my MacBook Pro. I tried using it as a slideshow player for my digital photos, and that hasn’t worked out too well. I tried using it with my Magic Mouse, but the scrolling feature of the mouse doesn’t work; I can’t slide my finger on top of the mouse to scroll a window.

I think this system needs to be MacOS with touchscreen support, instead of iPhone OS with keyboard support. As I said, i can see the attraction at the $300-$400 level, but in a $1,000-ish product, I should be able to get at least the same productivity as a laptop. MS Windows has plenty of touchscreen laptops; it’s basically Windows with a touchscreen mouse. Personally, I don’t see much future for the iPad Pro if they’re only going to be large screen iPhones.

First thing first, you bought the (almost) most expensive option. M2. Cellular option. Plus Magic Keyboard. But I agree that iPad Pro is not worth the money, that’s one reason Apple offered iPad Air which can use the same Magic Keyboard as iPad Pro. It’s good product but not worth with the steep price (except refurbished one). Probably iPad Pro is better called as iPad Luxury edition, lol.

Re: issues experienced by OP, my experience is slightly better. I rarely have difficulty in copy / paste text. I can run office fast (but not super fast like in M-series Mac). Safari is also fast, comparable with its MacOS version. Also, I never use Magic Mouse as the trackpad on Magic Keyboard has served quite well. However, I couldn’t say much on Adobe Lightroom as I never use it.

 

[dgdosen]

I can only dream of using a cheap iPad for my workflow. I would save bunch of money even If a 2018, or 2020 iPad Pro could run. It’s not just about terminal or moving files, I use my iPad Pro to run inferences as my MBP and Linux workstation do their training or processing. Lot of validation, running models, and other tests can easily be done on my M1 iPad. Bottom line is I moved lot of preprocessing, fine tuning parts of my workflow from cloud to locally between my workstation MBP and iPad Pro. My cloud costs weren’t just GPU, but storage, RAM and processor able to handle large data sets. I could have opted for MBA, but it doesn’t do what iPad does with Apple Pencil, great display and multipurpose device.
No one device is perfect, use and buy what works. If you have issues, try solving them.

Out of curiosity, Termius makes your ipad warm?

 

[TechnoMonk]

Out of curiosity, Termius makes your ipad warm?

No. Running inferences locally makes it warm. I am pretty sure if you run some intense photo and video editing it can get warm.

 

[john123]

You edited my comment.

Quoted word-for-word.

 

[john123]

Agree or disagree with the original, removing the caveat makes the statement a harsher-sounding absolute, which it was not.

Not really. The ENTIRE premise of what OP wrote is that it's not useful because it's not a fully fledged laptop with an OS to match. The conditional only means that he'd think it had a future IF that changed. Hence, the conditional doesn't much matter.

I think it's very telling that the OP is trying to split hairs here...

 

[sparksd]

Not really. The ENTIRE premise of what OP wrote is that it's not useful because it's not a fully fledged laptop with an OS to match. The conditional only means that he'd think it had a future IF that changed. Hence, the conditional doesn't much matter.

I think it's very telling that the OP is trying to split hairs here...

I disagree. If you're going to quote someone, don't truncate the end of a primary sentence and close that partial quote with a period, indicating all that was said. If nothing else, it is simple etiquette.

 

[FeliApple]

This again? Either merge the threads or do something. I thought it was a different complaint not the same-old “user who should sell the iPad and buy a Mac instead” ranting. Ridiculous.

 

[Alameda]

Op sounds genuinely frustrated, heck I would be too if I had that experience and those issues. But I do see same folks jumping with old cliches, with out any interest in helping OP.

Thanks to you and the others, I’m feeling a lot more confident about making the iPad Pro more productive when I travel.

 

[owilderman]

Thanks to you and the others, I’m feeling a lot more confident about making the iPad Pro more productive when I travel.

Kinda off topic but if you use your iPad a lot for travel, you might consider investing in an anti-glare screen protector if you haven’t already. I put one on my iPad and it’s a lifesaver for car trips

 

[john123]

I disagree. If you're going to quote someone, don't truncate the end of a primary sentence and close that partial quote with a period, indicating all that was said. If nothing else, it is simple etiquette.

It's really not. If it were out of context and distorting the meaning, that's one thing. If it's adding words without adding meaning and therefore making things less parsimonious, it's not.

Source:

Quotations - ONA Ethics

This section addresses these ethical issues: Why should all journalists be concerned, ethically, with accurate quotations? Is it ethical to change, modify or “improve” a quote? What is the ethical basis for selecting quotations? What ethical standards should guide the use of partial quotes? How...

ethics.journalists.org

Ironically here, I suggest reading the ENTIRE section entitled "The Danger Zone" as it, hilariously, provides the necessary context for the ethics on this "gray area."

 

[Alameda]

This again? Either merge the threads or do something. I thought it was a different complaint not the same-old “user who should sell the iPad and buy a Mac instead” ranting. Ridiculous.

Off topic. You should rant about people who rant in the “Rant about people who rant about Apple” thread.

 

[toobravetosave]

ipad is for watching videos or doing elementary level work at half the speed of a computer

it’s amazing at that stuff tho 😌

 

[AlastorKatriona]

For a product at this price point, it is a terrible laptop.

That's because it's not a laptop.

My iPad Pro is used for watching video, reading in bed, and other tablety tasks that iPad has been the best product for since the day it was introduced. My work is done a Mac, because that's where work is done.

 

[Shanghaichica]

When spending that amount of money on a device it’s prudent to do some research to make sure it meets your needs.

 

[chmania]

To make the tablet to run as a laptop, it should have the same OS running in it. MS Windows tablets do so, as they run the same OS. When you install a Linux distro on to the same Windows tablet, that Linux distro runs the same as it is on a laptop. So, the iPad should have macOS on it for it to act as a laptop.

 

[dgdosen]

I can only dream of using a cheap iPad for my workflow. I would save bunch of money even If a 2018, or 2020 iPad Pro could run. It’s not just about terminal or moving files, I use my iPad Pro to run inferences as my MBP and Linux workstation do their training or processing. Lot of validation, running models, and other tests can easily be done on my M1 iPad. Bottom line is I moved lot of preprocessing, fine tuning parts of my workflow from cloud to locally between my workstation MBP and iPad Pro. My cloud costs weren’t just GPU, but storage, RAM and processor able to handle large data sets. I could have opted for MBA, but it doesn’t do what iPad does with Apple Pencil, great display and multipurpose device.
No one device is perfect, use and buy what works. If you have issues, try solving them.

One more question. And as a background, I've tried and wanted to use an iPad Pro as a 'thin' front end for container based remote dev, and it wasn't a great solution. Maybe Microsoft is helping Apple by making GH/Codespaces more attractive for remote development. I haven't tried it since iPadOS allowed for a non-mirrored external monitor.

My question is - why is the air a toy for your workflow? Couldn't it perform any task you're currently using your iPad for? Sure the iPad can use a pencil - but to do any of that remote dev work, I'd need a keyboard and mouse - and that magic keyboard case is not a good option (IMO).

 

[Canadianblaken]

I’ve had my 11” iPad Pro since December — about four months now. Now that I’ve put it through its paces, I think I can say confidently that this is a very disappointing product.

I bought it with 512 GB of storage, the M2 processor, 8 GB of RAM, the cellular radio and the Magic Keyboard. For a product at this price point, it is a terrible laptop. I can definitely see the value of a $300 or $400 iPad as an entertainment toy. It’s great at downloading movies for playback while on long flights. But at the price of the iPad Pro, it’s well into laptop territory, as is the hardware capabilities… but it badly disappoints.

I’m not sure where to begin, but the Safari browser is very weak, and so is text selection and editing. Select/copy/paste works so-so on the iPhone, but on a platform like iPad Pro, I should have no difficulty selecting text for copy/paste. But it doesn’t work well on this platform. I downloaded Microsoft Office, and found its performance is fairly slow. I tried brining in RAW photos from my camera for editing with Adobe Lightroom, and it was close to unusable, especially compared to using my MacBook Pro. I tried using it as a slideshow player for my digital photos, and that hasn’t worked out too well. I tried using it with my Magic Mouse, but the scrolling feature of the mouse doesn’t work; I can’t slide my finger on top of the mouse to scroll a window.

I think this system needs to be MacOS with touchscreen support, instead of iPhone OS with keyboard support. As I said, i can see the attraction at the $300-$400 level, but in a $1,000-ish product, I should be able to get at least the same productivity as a laptop. MS Windows has plenty of touchscreen laptops; it’s basically Windows with a touchscreen mouse. Personally, I don’t see much future for the iPad Pro if they’re only going to be large screen iPhones.

I have been a lurker here for about a decade, never felt compelled to voice my opinion about anything until this post. I only use my m1 iPad for work for when I travel and it’s perfect. It really does come down to workflow and being comfortable with a device that is different than a traditional computer. Full fledged OS provides more flexibility on how you do your work, the iPad is different. I find that the iPad helps me be more productive, because I have a more defined way to do my work, because of limitations. But YMMV.

 

[bondr006]

That's because it's not a laptop.

My iPad Pro is used for watching video, reading in bed, and other tablety tasks that iPad has been the best product for since the day it was introduced. My work in done a Mac, because that's where work is done.

ipad is for watching videos or doing elementary level work at half the speed of a computer

it’s amazing at that stuff tho 😌

So I shouldn't have been happily using my M1 iPad Pro 11 to run my real estate and property management business? You're saying all this time I should have been "watching videos or doing elementary level work" instead of creating and filling contracts, creating pdf's and Word documents, taking notes, drawing property and house dimensions, taking and editing photos for listing in the MLS, entering and maintaing listings in the local MLS Paragon web app, intense communication with clients, creating and maintaining Excel worksheets to keep track of clients and expenses, and sooo much more?

Whew! I thought I was happy that I could easily do all those things to take care of my business, while having fun at the same time, but I guess I was wrong. From now on I will just "watch videos and do elementary level work".

 

[toobravetosave]

So I shouldn't have been happily using my M1 iPad Pro 11 to run my real estate and property management business? You're saying all this time I should have been "watching videos or doing elementary level work" instead of creating and filling contracts, creating pdf's and Word documents, taking notes, drawing property and house dimensions, taking and editing photos for listing in the MLS, entering and maintaing listings in the local MLS Paragon web app, intense communication with clients, creating and maintaining Excel worksheets to keep track of clients and expenses, and sooo much more?

Whew! I thought I was happy that I could easily do all those things to take care of my business, while having fun at the same time, but I guess I was wrong. From now on I will just "watch videos and do elementary level work".

well word processing in general is significantly more comprehensive and efficient on a computer but i see you have some niche uses for the ipad that make it useful like drawing.

i hope it can recover from my scathing reductionism and please extend my dearest apologies to your ipad

 

[TechnoMonk]

So I shouldn't have been happily using my M1 iPad Pro 11 to run my real estate and property management business? You're saying all this time I should have been "watching videos or doing elementary level work" instead of creating and filling contracts, creating pdf's and Word documents, taking notes, drawing property and house dimensions, taking and editing photos for listing in the MLS, entering and maintaing listings in the local MLS Paragon web app, intense communication with clients, creating and maintaining Excel worksheets to keep track of clients and expenses, and sooo much more?

Whew! I thought I was happy that I could easily do all those things to take care of my business, while having fun at the same time, but I guess I was wrong. From now on I will just "watch videos and do elementary level work".

Here I thought you were doing real work with iPad Pro, I guess not.

 

[eltoslightfoot]

I think the main issue that people have been having in these threads (myself included) is not listening to the other side enough in the sense that it really does come down to one's ability to be able to change workflows to iPad-compliant ones. If one is self-employed or similar, then it is easy to do what @Technerd108 does. If one is on the other extreme, and locked into various desktop only apps due to corporate or other limitations, then it honestly may not work.

And both situations are what they are. It would be great if both sides could just acknowledge (with as much gusto as they do their side) the other side and really understand how frustrating it can be to attempt to change one's workflows as just have it not really be possible/end it a good place.

For me, this is an acknowledgement that @bondr006's situation is just as valid as my situation where I just couldn't make it work. It's still an awesome companion device, but for me that is all it is. And that is okay.