Yes, but there is a difference between a reasonable amount of force and an unreasonable amount. For example, the iPad should be able to withstand the forces exerted upon it whilst in a bag, placed inside reasonably. This iPad seems to be so weak that it will bend, even when reasonably placed in a bag.
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Again, easy solution. Get a case. I seriously doubt anyone will experience any bending with a case on if they plan to stuff this in their backpack. It’s definitely thin, so it would seem obvious to want to protect it with a case. Having said that, I am sure Apple will slightly modify their next iPad Pros to address this concern. But who knows? Maybe the next ones will be even thinner! Lol. Seriously tho, if it gives anyone pause to upgrade now, then don’t. It’s all good. Wait for the next one. Me? I definitely plan to upgrade, and I am not worried at all about it bending, because I plan to travel with a case on it, and take care of it. Easy.
When you have kids that randomly do violent martial arts moves on your furniture.... maybe your life isn't cut out for apple products.
[doublepost=1542384371][/doublepost]I'm sure that any gen iPad would bend if you tried to bend it. Guess what, I can destroy any electronic devices if I try to destroy it!
I agree. But I also think their Daddy should realize he has wild kids and find a safer place to store the iPad.
Yeah, with kids things are always gonna get broken. It’s inevitable.
Yeah, my Dad was one imposing dude. If he had an iPad Pro when we were kids, there’s no way we woulda touched it, let alone BREATHED on it. Lol.
See no difference campared to this test:
And this test:
It bends when force applied, Apple hasn’t claimed otherwised
Man, I generally take these abuse videos with a grain of salt, but I was disturbed how easily the iPad bent. Having the 12.9, I’m a little concerned about it bending while I cart it around in my laptop backpack whilst on business travel. I’ve never been one to buy into AppleCare+, but I just purchased it for the 12.9 for piece of mind. I see Otterbox just came out with a case for the new Pros as well (currently only available through Apple) - I may need to pick one of those up as well.
Well I notice some differences. First, the new iPad Pro's aluminum not only deforms but actually cracks, indicating a thinner/more fragile housing design (and I'm not talking about cracking at the antenna band joint but the actual solid aluminum part cracking). The other thing is that on JerryRig's video at 6:27, his iPad actually looks already bowed out of the box before he even starts bending (and it is bowed in the opposite direction to his bending direction!).
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Sigh. This is EXACTLY the attitude real Apple fans of the company/products are trying to get out of the spotlight and away from sheep that it's the user's fault; the "you're holding it wrong" user error mentality.
If the device needs a hard shell case (not soft TPU and that wont help with flex) just to survive normal use or put into a bag then it is not built well, period. And for $1,000 that's inexcusable.
If it needs a hardshell case not to bow because it is so thin and poorly reinforced internally then one should have been included for $1,000 as an option to the user; which also may have slightly relieved Apple of responsibility at that point to fix/replace them if user elected not to use it despite being warned.
I typically ignore the Fandroid and ignorant Youtuber Apple haters, but when Apple is wrong they are wrong; and I have no problem saying it.
They do, someone posted the 10.5 bending (albeit with a shattered display again). But it took a LOT more force, you can tell by their hands and skin color/wrinkles which is more or less force.
And that got only a slight bend in the 10.5 even with a shattered display, not folded in half like butter like a brand new new 11"
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Their hands are white/red from the pressure to get that little of a bend. Its what, 180 degrees to maybe 170? 160 at worst?
Jerry folded it, easily to 130-140 degrees, like a piece of cardboard in about 1/2 second pressing on it; and he's not some Strongman competitor.
I have been to the Apple Store many many times trying to decide btwn the 11” & 12.9”...And I have tried to flex them. Trust me, they aren’t like “butter”. I think some people are being a bit dramatic here. Every iPad released after the first one(which was very heavy & built like a friggin tank) has bent in these white knuckle video bend tests. Every one. Of course iPads will bend if you grab them with your thumbs in the middle and exert a lot of force.
I think it’s all fun. But come on. None of those past iPads that bent in those YouTube tests have bent in real life usage. At least none that I have ever owned, and i’ve owned them all. I travel a lot, and have backpacked with them internationally and never had one bend. Cracked a few screens. But that was me stupidly dropping them screen first on concrete. Sh*t happens.
I don’t think these new iPad pros will be any different. Regardless of how convincing these “bend” videos look. Don’t be scared people. Remember, these YouTube videos are made to be as dramatic as possible for clicks and to make $$. Again, the previous iPad bend videos looked convincing too...and not ONE of my iPads have ever bent. Ever.
If you plan to travel, throw this thing in a backpack or knock it around...get...a...case. Simple as that. But that’s something you should do for ANY iPad.
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Well, I have done the apple pencil "test" on my girlfriend's 10.5 and in kinda the same on the lower - upper end of the display; that lead me to think that the more squared form factor may accentuate some assembly imperfection, apart from that the build quality is imho far superior on those iPad compared to the previous ones.
And btw, people asking to take photos with rulers and then refusing to post a single picture of their product are kinda funny, maybe someone is pissed after discovering the same "issue" on his device xD
And btw, people asking to take photos with rulers and then refusing to post a single picture of their product are kinda funny, maybe someone is pissed after discovering the same "issue" on his device xD
Glad I bought apple care + and I store my iPad in my backpack and it sits in between my work laptop and my Macbook Air. My backpack always sits on a chair, so not worried about it being stepped on. But now im going to obsess and check to see if it warped atleast once a week.
Will also be curious if Apple makes a statement about this?
Will also be curious if Apple makes a statement about this?
Same reply to this ridiculous notion as the other thread. I by choice use a case and screen protector on my iphone and wouldn't go naked, and have never broken a device. I like the devices in good shape and its good for resale.
But are we really back to the old Apple is always right it's user error excuses; the "you're holding it wrong" nonsense? You shouldn't HAVE to cover your device to prevent a design flaw.
So what, now when its on a table with the camera hump and someone's hand on the display drawing and the thin metal bows, are we going to blame user error?
Are we just going to deny bendgate was a thing for some and that the 6S "corrected" the "user error" as if Apple never designed a bad product? Look I think it es 99% overblown too, but it DID happen for some people not abusing the device. But this couldn't possibly be one of those just poor designs now could it...
I typically brush off the Apple smack talk from Fandroids and uneducated Youtubers/public, but when Apple is (rare IMO) wrong I call them out. And this is just a poor design with an obvious flaw by the pencil charge port cut out of the metal being way too thin and no support (plus no supports inside from the teardowns and being so big it needs them)
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I agree, I love the new iPad Pro, which is why I continue to use it and tolerate the small imperfection as it doesn't have any effect on performance.
Apple only cares about one thing - cash flow.
You got the product(s), it is up to you how to take care of it.
You got the product(s), it is up to you how to take care of it.
Get a case? So on a $800 minimum MOBILE device, one should have to pay even more to obtain any sort of structural integrity? Ha. Riiight. That’s why Apple gets away with stuff like this.
I was going to get the 11”. Until I found out the device that’s supposedly “mobile” is as structurally weak as a graham cracker.
I was going to get the 11”. Until I found out the device that’s supposedly “mobile” is as structurally weak as a graham cracker.
Surprise surprise, burning the screen with a lighter and scratching the surface with a knife will damage the device. In what way is either of those tests useful? That guy is an idiot. Plus he is going to slice one of his digits off one day unless he learns to use a knife properly...
Except that's not what the people in any of the posted videos have been doing or claiming, while we have several members here saying they do exactly that without issues.
No you can't, that will depend totally on how strong the person is, how big their hands are, where they put them on the iPad so how much leverage they get, etc. etc.
The ones I've handled personally seemed pretty solid. If this is such a massive issue/design flaw I'm amazed none of the big media outlet reviews mention them feeling cheap/flimsy. Do you really think no professional reviewers would have noticed this? OK, they're not going to test their review units to destruction but I'm sure they would have noticed if they were flexing when they were writing on them with the Pencil, for example. The only real test for structural integrity is to use a measuring device (as has been done for many phones in the past) to see exactly how much force it takes to bend the unit by putting pressure on the centre when it's supported at each end: I'm sure we'll see that done eventually by someone reputable and we'll know for sure then what's going on. Until then take the youtube hysteria with a pinch of salt but be careful with your expensive stuff, buy AppleCare or delay your purchase if you're worried.
Hey, I am capable of critical thinking. I love Apple, but I’m no Apple apologist. I just take everything with a grain of salt. Especially YouTube “bend” videos that are made for clicks and money. So it cuts both ways. I don’t think there’s anything wrong with criticizing Apple for a legit design flaw, if there is one. But I also question those who profit for creating drama where there might not be any issue at all.
I haven’t gotten my new iPad Pro yet, but I know several artist friends who have gotten theirs already...and they haven’t experienced any bend issues. I trust them more than some clickbate YouTube creator.
Just playing devils advocate here. Every time Apple releases a new product...you get videos like these. You get trolls screaming about some new “gate” this or “gate” that.
Again, not saying there can’t ever be an issue. It’s good to question and be critical. But it’s also good to question the validity of the trolls and haters too.
I am going by my friends experiences with the new iPad Pros, and my own observations at the Apple Store actually touching and trying to flex the device. And trust me...it’s not like “butter”. I feel they aren’t as bendable as these videos portray. Not even close. And Definitely not in any real world way. And especially not if you protect your iPad Pro in a case, which I think any reasonable person would.