I recently read a couple leaks that mentioned the baseline iPhone 12 that will be $649 will have 64GB (not 128GB) FWIW.
Please share your source. AFAIK there is no such leak.
I recently read a couple leaks that mentioned the baseline iPhone 12 that will be $649 will have 64GB (not 128GB) FWIW.
This is entirely my point. The iPhone SE was created to be a modern iPhone whilst keeping price low - the smaller 4.7" design was merely a consequence of that. This is an iPhone designed primarily for the budget-conscious, not the people who like small phones. If the latter were true, they would have gone to greater lengths to produce a new chassis with smaller bezels etc.
It wouldn't surprise me if the next iPhone SE (if there is one) is based on the 6.1" iPhone XR/11 chassis and size.
Hmm, wonder if Apple will keep the XR in the lineup. There's enough of a gap left by the lack of 8+/SE+.
$399 iPhone SE 4.7" 64GB
$499 iPhone XR 6.1" 64GB (?)
$599 iPhone 11 6.1" 64GB
$649 iPhone 12 5.4" 128GB
$749 iPhone 12 6.1" 128GB
$999 iPhone 12 Pro 6.1" 128GB
$1099 iPhone 12 Pro Max 6.7" 128GB
I recently read a couple leaks that mentioned the baseline iPhone 12 that will be $649 will have 64GB (not 128GB) FWIW.
who are these sources and how are they more reputable than Prosser?
So what will 12 6,1” have against 11 6,1” except for oled and a14 ?
Doesn’t seem to be many rumours about features for the regular model aside from 5G and better display.So what will 12 6,1” have against 11 6,1” except for oled and a14 ?
I guess most people out there who aren't big tech enthusiasts do 2-year contracts, so it's probably best to look at the 12 as an upgrade from the XR for most people. So all the 11s camera improvements + 5g + oled + a14 + 128gb storage at base level + reduced bezels + further likely camera upgrades + I'd presume slightly better battery life over the 11, which has slightly better battery life over the XR. So for the "average consumer" the 12 will probably be a nice upgrade. For someone on the 11 right now I'd agree it looks a bit lacklustre.Because upgrade from XR to 11 was quite worthy.
And if someone says that everything is leaked, I think that we can be surprised at the end
I think we're arguing the same point? The point of the SE is that it's a powerful, entry-level iPhone, not that it's a small iPhone.
They wanted to hit $399. They chose the parts to do it. It happened to be a smaller phone. This is not the smallest phone they could have made, even if they wanted to keep a 4.7" screen, therefore this is a phone designed around a price point and not a screen size.
I think the rumoured 5.4" iPhone 12 is the phone a lot of people have been waiting for. That looks like being a phone designed size-first, with a new chassis and obviously higher price tag. The point I'm getting at is SE does not necessarily mean small, it means cheap. And that's fine. Loads of people want a cheap, powerful iPhone. The rumoured SE Plus is perhaps more evidence of this.
I guess most people out there who aren't big tech enthusiasts do 2-year contracts, so it's probably best to look at the 12 as an upgrade from the XR for most people. So all the 11s camera improvements + 5g + oled + a14 + 128gb storage at base level + reduced bezels + further likely camera upgrades + I'd presume slightly better battery life over the 11, which has slightly better battery life over the XR. So for the "average consumer" the 12 will probably be a nice upgrade. For someone on the 11 right now I'd agree it looks a bit lacklustre.
True, should have specified the 6.1 inch 12 max, which I am sure will have a slightly better battery life than the 11 with a14 improvements + savings from switching to OLED. The 5.4 inch will probably have worse battery life, but I think most people switching from the XR/11 will go for the 6.1-inch model anyway.The rumoured iPhone 12 is the first one I’ve been excited about in a long time.
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I’m doubtful in the longer battery life in a smaller chassis.
True, should have specified the 6.1 inch 12 max, which I am sure will have a slightly better battery life than the 11 with a14 improvements + savings from switching to OLED. The 5.4 inch will probably have worse battery life, but I think most people switching from the XR/11 will go for the 6.1-inch model anyway.
Disagree. One only needs to look at the sales of Android phones this year; the S20+ destroyed the S20 which didn't even appear in the top 6 list. The 11 pro max/XS max also vastly outsold the 11 pro and XS max. Small phones are popular among enthusiasts on this forum + Reddit but people irl do generally prefer bigger phones and thats why phones keep on getting bigger. I am 99% certain the 6.1 inch max will be the best selling 12.Nope. Most people don’t want necessarily want a larger screen. They want the cheapest price, most up to date model with the latest specs, and a pocketable size while getting the first two. iPhone 6 through iPhone 7, the Plus version sold a lot worse, because it was larger and more expensive at the same time.
The only reason people buy the 11 is because it’s much cheaper than the 11 Pro. With the iPhone 12, many many iPhone 11/Pro users will shift to iPhone 12 non MAX.
Disagree. One only needs to look at the sales of Android phones this year; the S20+ destroyed the S20 which didn't even appear in the top 6 list. The 11 pro max/XS max also vastly outsold the 11 pro and XS max. Small phones are popular among enthusiasts on this forum + Reddit but people irl do generally prefer bigger phones and thats why phones keep on getting bigger. I am 99% certain the 6.1 inch max will be the best selling 12.
I expect the customers considering the S20(+) and XS/11 Pro (Max) are a lot less price sensitive compared to the mainstream market.Disagree. One only needs to look at the sales of Android phones this year; the S20+ destroyed the S20 which didn't even appear in the top 6 list. The 11 pro max/XS max also vastly outsold the 11 pro and XS max. Small phones are popular among enthusiasts on this forum + Reddit but people irl do generally prefer bigger phones and thats why phones keep on getting bigger. I am 99% certain the 6.1 inch max will be the best selling 12.
It will depend on the battery life, because I can't see many XR users who have adjusted to their screen size, replacing their phone for one which is significantly smaller and possibly has worse battery life. For many people once you get used to the bigger screen its hard to go back. And a lot of users with phone older than that will have jumped over to the SE. Considering the rumoured baseline of 128gb, the rumoured 749 price point of the 12 max is good value compared to the 11/XR, though the 12 is of course lower. I will go out on a limb and predict in terms of sales it'll be.I expect the customers considering the S20(+) and XS/11 Pro (Max) are a lot less price sensitive compared to the mainstream market.
Customers may prefer bigger phones. However, not everyone may be willing to spend $100 more for a bigger phone (granted, probably just $4 per month on installment).
Looking at Apple's recent price adjustments and rumored iPhone 12 pricing, we can surmise that the majority of the mainstream is in the $600-700 price range.
The XR replaced both the iPhone 8 and 8+. While the XR might be the best seller among the XR/XS/XS Max batch, it's quite possible the it didn't sell as many units as the 4.7" & 5.5" models combined did for the previous period.
I just don't see the 12 Pro Max selling more than the 12 for the simple reason that fewer people can afford it.It will depend on the battery life, because I can't see many XR users who have adjusted to their screen size, replacing their phone for one which is significantly smaller and possibly has worse battery life. For many people once you get used to the bigger screen its hard to go back. And a lot of users with phone older than that will have jumped over to the SE. Considering the rumoured baseline of 128gb, the rumoured 749 price point of the 12 max is good value compared to the 11/XR, though the 12 is of course lower. I will go out on a limb and predict in terms of sales it'll be.
12 max>12 pro max>12>12 pro.
Screen resolution for all models, good riddance 720p screens. 😊
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Resolutions and Features of All-OLED iPhone 12 Lineup Detailed in New Report
Apple's upcoming iPhones will all use flexible OLEDs sourced from either Samsung, BOE, and LG Display, with some new features like 10-bit color...www.macrumors.com
I like OLED, but the flipside to this news is goodbye to the best LCDs in the industry and all Apple's R&D in LCD leading to it.
The rumored SE max will most likely have a 1080p lcd panel.
Can’t see Apple switching all their iPads over to oled, they’ll most likely keep using lcd panels in their non pro iPad models.