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We we sure about the battery dimensions? It’s thicker. Maybe it’s so people don’t get high expectations over the battery life
 
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people somehow associate smartphone CPU like how it works on desktop/laptops.

it doesn't correlate 100% where desktop CPU draws massive amount of watts, and second only to GPU.

theres not much to improve when it comes to SOC ... really

most of the battery drain is always attributed to either screen, and your 5g modem.

and theres no good solution for those.

if your OLED screen is still pulling massive amounts of battery, you won't see any gains even if they reduce it down to 1nm
This is a good take.

Winter months, less sunlight, more indoor use... I could end up with 70-80% battery at the end of the day.

Summer months, more sunlight, more outdoor use... I rarely end up with more than 50%.


The only difference is the average screen brightness.
 
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Because it's more powerful. If Apple took the iphone 14 chip (A16, 5nm process) and just converted it to the 3nm process while keeping the clocks the same, yes, the instant benefit would be power savings.
 
Someone said those numbers applied to the 14 Pro series are very "best case scenario" whereas on the 15 Pro it's probably going to be average/better than. Obviously there's no way of telling but I think the 15 Pro series battery life will be back to 13 PM levels (which were pretty good)
Where has that ever been remotely implied. Apple sets the same measuring parameters for both.
 
they said that with 14 pro over 13 pro but the latter has still longer battery life, let's wait for real time usage
 
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Most people have experienced worse battery performance with the 14 Pro Max compared to 13 Pro Max and battery health has been terrible.

Consider yourself lucky. I regretted letting go of my 13 Pro Max when getting the 14 Pro Max. Battery life is horrible and let's not talk about the fastest battery degradation in the history of iPhone since iPhone 6 Plus. 13 Pro Max was amazing battery-wise, and the only reason I am going 15 Pro Max actually is that I hope the battery will last as much as the 13 Pro Max.

Launch day 13PM better battery over launch day 14PM. Battery life has been less on the 14PM and don’t tell battery life at 88% is ok versus 98% 1 year later on the 13PM. I’m hoping for great battery again on the 15PM.

I don't consider myself lucky. I consider my experience (as well as my wife, and kids') pretty typical.

There was another thread here where people were comparing battery health measurements of their 14 Pro/Max phones. While hardly scientific, most folks still had pretty high numbers. Personally, my launch day 14 Pro Max is at 97% maximum capacity.

Clearly, there are some folks, you guys included, that got batteries that suffered some form of defect (or having phones in overheating situations which impacts battery health). Also clearly, this was not the typical user experience. Remember, people are far, far more likely to post with complaints than with "hey guys, just wanted to say my stuff is still good". This can give the impression that the negative experience is overrepresented in the user base.

Hopefully whatever device people get next treats them well from a battery perspective; that was most people's experience with the 14-series, and everyone deserves that level of performance.
 
I think this type of story is why there is an assumption that there would be major energy savings. I thought we might see a 20% increase in battery.

If it were the case they would have mentioned it , we both know apple like to suck themselves hard with every progress and improvement
 
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Unfortunately, those articles are completely wrong because TSMC compares N3 with N5 v1.0, which was used in A14. The A15 and A16 already got the low hanging fruit.

And when they talk about 35%, it's the absolute best case scenario before TSMC revised down their numbers. In reality, the benefit of N3 over N4 is more like 10% power efficiency or 10% performance with 5% higher density.
That is absolutely not true, the figures of n5>n3 are much different

"Compared to its 5-nm node, which TSMC launched in 2020, the mega-fab claims that its N3 process offers 60% to 70% higher logic density and 15% higher performance while consuming 30% to 35% less power"
 
They have higher capacity batteries

So it’s actually

Bigger battery + more efficient processor = same battery life

Makes no sense
We do not know of they indeed have larger batteries. That has been a RUMOR!
Maybe they‘re using the same batteries as the 14 series. Wait for some teardowns.
 
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That is absolutely not true, the figures of n5>n3 are much different

"Compared to its 5-nm node, which TSMC launched in 2020, the mega-fab claims that its N3 process offers 60% to 70% higher logic density and 15% higher performance while consuming 30% to 35% less power"
But A15 and A16 never used TSMC N5.
They used N5E (or N5P?) and N4!
So the „jump“ to N3B on A17 is much smaller than stated in that marketing note.
 
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We do not know of they indeed have larger batteries. That has been a RUMOR!
Maybe they‘re using the same batteries as the 14 series. Wait for some teardowns.

Additionally, the “leaker” who started that rumor about larger physical batteries released an update the same day saying to take the rumor with a grain of salt.

I’ve been trying to tell people this for weeks but everyone seems to ignore it.
 
Consider yourself lucky. I regretted letting go of my 13 Pro Max when getting the 14 Pro Max. Battery life is horrible and let's not talk about the fastest battery degradation in the history of iPhone since iPhone 6 Plus. 13 Pro Max was amazing battery-wise, and the only reason I am going 15 Pro Max actually is that I hope the battery will last as much as the 13 Pro Max.
I have usually 60% to 80% of battery left when I go to bed. No need for a power bank anymore. Something not OK with your 14PM battery I assume.
 
That is absolutely not true, the figures of n5>n3 are much different

"Compared to its 5-nm node, which TSMC launched in 2020, the mega-fab claims that its N3 process offers 60% to 70% higher logic density and 15% higher performance while consuming 30% to 35% less power"

Perhaps Apple decided that the lightness of Titanium was a great selling feature.

With the N3 they reduce power consumption, so they decide to also reduce the battery capacity to reduce weight further (bringing its runtime similar to 14PM).

We'll find out when the teardowns happen.
 
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Perhaps Apple decided that the lightness of Titanium was a great selling feature.

With the N3 they reduce power consumption, so they decide to also reduce the battery capacity to reduce weight further (bringing its runtime similar to 14PM).

We'll find out when the teardowns happen.
My thoughts as well. We'll see what it is
 
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This got posted today (https://istyle.ae/blog/how-much-bat...: Battery capacity,95 hours of audio playback.), hopefully it's true.
The 13 Pro Max had 4352 mAh.
 
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That is absolutely not true, the figures of n5>n3 are much different

"Compared to its 5-nm node, which TSMC launched in 2020, the mega-fab claims that its N3 process offers 60% to 70% higher logic density and 15% higher performance while consuming 30% to 35% less power"

You should read some actual analyses rather than something that regurgitates a press release.

 

This leaker below has very good accuracy. I know many people want to blame the titanium or whatever, but that makes zero sense. Do you guys seriously think Apple would make iPhone 15 Pro/Max thicker but reduce battery size? Look at the actual performance of the litho. You cannot have both performance and battery life increases at these nodes.

 
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