iPhone 3G - too slow now.

[matttye]

Someone I work with has an iPhone 3G and it runs perfectly, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

 

[FXT 1]

Someone I work with has an iPhone 3G and it runs perfectly, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

Well it doesn't LOL Have you got an iPhone 3G running 3.0?

 

[matttye]

Well it doesn't LOL Have you got an iPhone 3G running 3.0?

No but I have played with my workmate's and it's really snappy. I was kind of annoyed because one of the main reasons I got rid of my own iPhone was because it was so sluggish with the 2.x.x firmware!

And before you ask; yes, it is definitely a 3G. It doesn't have a compass or video camera.

 

[FXT 1]

No but I have played with my workmate's and it's really snappy. I was kind of annoyed because one of the main reasons I got rid of my own iPhone was because it was so sluggish with the 2.x.x firmware!

And before you ask; yes, it is definitely a 3G. It doesn't have a compass or video camera.

Too Bad. According to this thread the iPhone 2G 3.0 is snappier than the 3G. And surely you can't come to the conclusion that the iPhone 3G running 3.0 is super snappy and quick after playing around with it for a few minutes?

Is the iPhone 3G running 3.0 or 2.x.x ? I simply can't believe you LOL.
With daily use, the iPhone 3G will reveal all flaws, glitches and sluggishness.

 

[matttye]

Too Bad. According to this thread the iPhone 2G 3.0 is snappier than the 3G. And surely you can't come to the conclusion that the iPhone 3G running 3.0 is super snappy and quick after playing around with it for a few minutes?

Is the iPhone 3G running 3.0 or 2.x.x ? I simply can't believe you LOL.
With daily use, the iPhone 3G will reveal all flaws, glitches and sluggishness.

I'm not saying it's snappy all the time, I'm just saying it was snappy during the time I played around with it. Running 3.0.

My iPhone started off really snappy and ended up sluggish so it may just get sluggish when it starts to fill up with data..

 

[FXT 1]

Someone I work with has an iPhone 3G and it runs perfectly, so I have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm not saying it's snappy all the time, I'm just saying it was snappy during the time I played around with it. Running 3.0.

My iPhone started off really snappy and ended up sluggish so it may just get sluggish when it starts to fill up with data..

Ahh Okay






And does your computer slow down when you fill up your hard drive with data?
OS 3.0 is the problem!!

 

[matttye]

Ah Okay






And does your computer slow down when you fill up your hard drive with data?
OS 3.0 is the problem!!

Yes! Especially when it needs de-fragmenting, but as the iPhone uses an SSD it shouldn't suffer like a hard drive does. It takes an SSD the same amount of time to seek anywhere on the drive so fragmentation doesn't matter.

Having lots of images would certainly cause your photo gallery to take longer to open up, but it shouldn't cause lag to the entire phone. Maybe it's wear and tear on the other components, such as the processor?

 

[FXT 1]

Yes! Especially when it needs de-fragmenting, but as the iPhone uses an SSD it shouldn't suffer like a hard drive does. It takes an SSD the same amount of time to seek anywhere on the drive so fragmentation doesn't matter.

Having lots of images would certainly cause your photo gallery to take longer to open up, but it shouldn't cause lag to the entire phone. Maybe it's wear and tear on the other components, such as the processor?

But its not a drastic speed decrease. If you have a large photo gallery then the speed that it takes depends on the amount of RAM (and the speed of that) you have and your CPU speed mainly.

Anyway, the key is RAM, the more you have of it, the faster your programs will run. As will the GUI too. And what do you mean "specifically" by the "entire phone" ? IMO that basically means apps and the GUI and keyboard (the essentials). Which lag because... (Back to start of post LOL)

CPU wear and tear? Doubt it.

 

[matttye]

But its not a drastic speed decrease. If you have a large photo gallery then the speed that it takes depends on the amount of RAM (and the speed of that) you have and your CPU speed mainly.

Anyway, the key is RAM, the more you have of it, the faster your programs will run. As will the GUI too. And what do you mean "specifically" by the "entire phone" ? IMO that basically means apps and the GUI and keyboard (the essentials). Which lag because... (Back to start of post LOL)

CPU wear and tear? Doubt it.

I'm just saying that filling up your phone with data such as contacts, photos, movies, etc, should not cause the core components of your phone (keyboard, web browsing, etc) to slow down.

For example.. Your notes application should not become more sluggish just because you install hundreds of apps, songs and images; because none of those files affect the notes app.

Some people on here complain of system wide slowdowns after a while, but there's no reason this should happen!

 

[-aggie-]

Ahh Okay

And does your computer slow down when you fill up your hard drive with data?
OS 3.0 is the problem!!

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

I'm just saying that filling up your phone with data such as contacts, photos, movies, etc, should not cause the core components of your phone (keyboard, web browsing, etc) to slow down.

For example.. Your notes application should not become more sluggish just because you install hundreds of apps, songs and images; because none of those files affect the notes app.

Some people on here complain of system wide slowdowns after a while, but there's no reason this should happen!

And you do know what you're talking about, compared to the one you're arguing with.

I HAVE a 3G on 3.0.1. MY 3G runs just fine, thank you.

@FXT: You might try to reset all settings or restore as new (make sure you've synced everything before and this is not so bad...you'll just lose game saves, SMS messages, etc., but you can get contacts, music, notes, calendar and all the other stuff you can sync back when you sync after the restore). All the things you describe are NOT normal for a majority of 3G users with OS 3.0 or 3.0.1.

 

[tabasco70]

Sorry to be so ignorant, but how do we set it up as a new phone? Just restore it? Is anything lost?

You restore it. If you've been syncing your iPhone with iTunes properly, nothing will be lost, as it'll be backed up on your computer.
Your contacts, notes, photos, and music, etc will all be on your comp.

 

[-aggie-]

You restore it. If you've been syncing your iPhone with iTunes properly, nothing will be lost, as it'll be backed up on your computer.
Your contacts, notes, photos, and music, etc will all be on your comp.

You realize you're responding to a post from almost two months ago, correct? I'm sure he found out the answer by now.

 

[MultiFinder17]

I have a 4gig 2G iPhone running 3.0.1, and a 16gig iPhone 3G running 3.0.1. They're both pretty much the same - the 3G feels a little zippier, but that's probably because it was restored more recently (read: month or so ago).

 

[infosprt]

And does your computer slow down when you fill up your hard drive with data?
OS 3.0 is the problem!!

YES! I routinely (every 3 months) reinitialize my PC. It sure is snappy for awhile after that.

My wife's 3G got much faster after I restored it to new condition. Now she is much more selective about what apps she downloads.

 

[Coaldust]

So yes yes yeahhah, 3GS is out and from real life experience it's nothing like one would imagine. Sure, a bit better, slightly faster and all that.

Meanwhile, the 3G models are bogged down. Since the 3GS was introduced together with OS3.0, OMG the 3G is nearly pathetic, I would call it unusable for professional purposes anyway, just too slow.

I am not sure what the cause is. Likely, or naturally, it would have to be OS3.0. But I just don't know what on earth it is. Before, it was acceptable.

I probably now understand all the focus on "speed" with the introduction of 3GS. Obviously Apple knew things were wayyyyy tooooo slowwww. I mean, have you tried a Blackberry ?? I hate it, but it works incredibly well, and incredibly fast. The iPhone is a cute toy in comparison.

Apple needs to put away the "cute" and get down to make this thing work. Otherwise it will be just like PCs v.s. Macs in the old days: Macs just too slow and guess who owns the market ?

wow news flash the 3gs is faster than the 3g. I think everyone knows that by now. And my 3g is fine. When it gets a little slow I restart or you free mem in game mode to free it up a bit.

 

[FXT 1]

2.2.1 had a speed we have all become accustomed too, and so we demand the same of 3.0 and 3.x and so on.

I'm just saying that filling up your phone with data such as contacts, photos, movies, etc, should not cause the core components of your phone (keyboard, web browsing, etc) to slow down.

For example.. Your notes application should not become more sluggish just because you install hundreds of apps, songs and images; because none of those files affect the notes app.

Some people on here complain of system wide slowdowns after a while, but there's no reason this should happen!

Why are you now saying what I was saying earlier

You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.

Neither Do you . My iMac's Hard Drive is close to bursting (Virtually no space left). And so I wondered why it was so slow. Then I installed 2GB extra RAM. Now its quick and snappy

@FXT: You might try to reset all settings or restore as new (make sure you've synced everything before and this is not so bad...you'll just lose game saves, SMS messages, etc., but you can get contacts, music, notes, calendar and all the other stuff you can sync back when you sync after the restore).

This I have done. Not once. Not twice. But Thrice

YES! I routinely (every 3 months) reinitialize my PC. It sure is snappy for awhile after that.

Well your using a PC so...

And btw, I don't fancy having to do a Full Restore every 3 months on my iPhone, considering it takes hours. Plus I lose all my data again which isn't good, to say the least.

 

[matttye]

Why are you now saying what I was saying earlier

Please point out where you said that..

What you said was:

With daily use, the iPhone 3G will reveal all flaws, glitches and sluggishness.

Which implies, to me, that the more you use the phone, the slower it will get, which simply isn't true; as I said, the iPhone SSD does not suffer from fragmentation so the entire phone will not slow down over time.

Neither Do you . My iMac's Hard Drive is close to bursting (Virtually no space left). And so I wondered why it was so slow. Then I installed 2GB extra RAM. Now its quick and snappy

Extra memory is only going to be a good thing, nobody is disputing that.

 

[daneoni]

Its because you guys migrated stuff from 2.2.1 to 3.0 you might be better served when you reset all settings (not erase data) just reset all settings on the phone and start with the default 3.0 settings.

 

[TheSpaz]

I'm happy with 2.2.1. 3.0 sucks and I won't be upgrading until it's as snappy as 2.2.1.

Here's what's happening:

2.x -- Built to run well on the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPod touch
3.x -- Built to run well on the iPhone 3GS (i.e.: faster hardware)

That's all I have to say.

 

[matttye]

I'm happy with 2.2.1. 3.0 sucks and I won't be upgrading until it's as snappy as 2.2.1.

Here's what's happening:

2.x -- Built to run well on the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPod touch
3.x -- Built to run well on the iPhone 3GS (i.e.: faster hardware)

That's all I have to say.

Adding the amount of features they did to the 3.0 OS is no small task.. I would expect speed improvements over the next few months.

Remember when we got 2.0? The OS was very very sluggish but it was sorted out in the coming months with 2.x.x versions.

 

[wolfpackfan]

The main area where I notice slowness with my 3G is with text entry.

 

[YoungLew]

If for some reason i had to stop using my 3GS and start using a 3G i'd rather find another phone to use.

 

[TheSpaz]

Adding the amount of features they did to the 3.0 OS is no small task.. I would expect speed improvements over the next few months.

Remember when we got 2.0? The OS was very very sluggish but it was sorted out in the coming months with 2.x.x versions.

The main question is... are they going to worry about how fast it runs on old hardware like the iPhone 3G? 3.0 runs really smoothly on the 3GS... that's all Apple cares about now.

The previous OSes were built for the hardware they were introduced on. 3.0 is built for 3GS and 2.0 is built for 3G. It's that simple.

I don't really see Apple going out of it's way to make sure old hardware, runs almost as fast as the 3GS... that would be stupid for them to do.

 

[FXT 1]

Please point out where you said that..

I made that clear in my last post. You are now saying that this shouldn't happen, nobody is disputing that, however it is happening.

With daily use, the iPhone 3G will reveal all flaws, glitches and sluggishness.

Which implies, to me, that the more you use the phone, the slower it will get, which simply isn't true; as I said, the iPhone SSD does not suffer from fragmentation so the entire phone will not slow down over time.

No. What I meant was, if you don't use your iPhone regularly, the odd crash or slow loading time might not phase you. However if you use your iPhone daily, a recurring glitch or crash will start to bother you. Also if you need to check something quickly on your phone then the general sluggishness of the keyboard and GUI will make itself apparent over time, but more apparent more quickly to those of us who were happy with 2.2.1

Adding the amount of features they did to the 3.0 OS is no small task.. I would expect speed improvements over the next few months.

Remember when we got 2.0? The OS was very very sluggish but it was sorted out in the coming months with 2.x.x versions.

Sorry, not personally, because then I was using the latest hardware, born with OS 2.0. However, I was not experiencing any of the 3G and Dropped calls issues going on around that time.

The main area where I notice slowness with my 3G is with text entry.

Same, especially on certain memory intensive apps. Or just when the iPhone has no free RAM available.

I'm happy with 2.2.1. 3.0 sucks and I won't be upgrading until it's as snappy as 2.2.1.

Here's what's happening:

2.x -- Built to run well on the iPhone, iPhone 3G, iPod touch
3.x -- Built to run well on the iPhone 3GS (i.e.: faster hardware)

TheSpaz, I completely agree. However aren't there some baseband issues when downgrading?

If for some reason i had to stop using my 3GS and start using a 3G i'd rather find another phone to use.

Well, at least you have the choice.

 

[jkozlow3]

Its because you guys migrated stuff from 2.2.1 to 3.0 you might be better served when you reset all settings (not erase data) just reset all settings on the phone and start with the default 3.0 settings.

Please pay attention to this recommendation. You will DEFINITELY see a speed increase if you "reset all settings". Do NOT "erase all content and settings" however or everything will be erased from your phone.

Resetting the settings will make things MUCH snappier and you really don't lose much. I had to go back and change a few phone settings afterward, but all of my mail accounts, contacts, calendars, notes, music, applications, etc were still there. My applications were re-ordered in alphabetical order though if I recall correctly. Not a huge deal though. My 3.01 3G iPhone was much more responsive afterward. Highly recommended if your phone is running slow.