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matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
Meh, whatever. It's like god only knows what you people do with your phones that you need a quad-core processor or the best GPU.

Texting, calls, web browsing, listening to music, taking/browsing photos.. that's what I use mine for :p

I don't "need" a quad core phone, but it's nice to have finally found an Android phone that's smoother than my iPad 2!

The most graphically intensive game I play is probably Zynga Poker :D
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
737
0
Meh, whatever. It's like god only knows what you people do with your phones that you need a quad-core processor or the best GPU.

Ah yes, the old iPhone fanboy reaction once they realize they have inferior tech. I don't need all that anyways LOL. :rolleyes: I mean who needs fast processors, larger screens, 4G speeds, SD cards, removeable batteries right? I want my phone to stay with tech and hardware that's years old until Apple decides I am ready for change!
 

aztooh

macrumors 6502a
Jul 5, 2011
678
0
I've been on this site for years and I know 9.9/10 any response not in favor of Apple will be looked at negatively or within the last year or so get the down vote.

That said, I've been using iPhones from the original 4GB model in 2007 through the 4S since launch up until a week ago or so when I got the S3.

That said, I am enjoying my S3 a lot more than I enjoyed any iPhone. Why?

In a nutshell android is more open. iOS talks about being PC and it has come a long way. However, when I want to add or remove content it's a lot more straight forward with the S3 and typically can be done on the device.

With iOS I usually have to get on my main computer or remote login to it for simple tasks.

I also have found myself printing a lot more pictures in the last few days by just being able to go into a store and pop my card from the phone in.

Apple works great with other apple products, android so far is working great with everything.

I don't see one better than the other. iOS and Android can both be great in their own ways.

At first, the S3 was just going to be my toy until the next iPhone came out. Honestly, I'm not sure if I'm going to switch back to iOS anymore.

One thing I will say though is I feel if I drop my S3, it's going to break into 8 billion pieces. iPhone build quality is definitely better.

This is a joke, right? Did you swap the phones around in that last statement?
 

comatose81

macrumors 6502a
Dec 17, 2009
585
0
Ah yes, the old iPhone fanboy reaction once they realize they have inferior tech. I don't need all that anyways LOL. :rolleyes: I mean who needs fast processors, larger screens, 4G speeds, SD cards, removeable batteries right? I want my phone to stay with tech and hardware that's years old until Apple decides I am ready for change!

I agree for the most part that people get defensive when their device has inferior tech, but some people (myself included) really don't want a larger screen. I like the size of the iPhone (and other phones with 3.x" screens). That's just me, though.
 

aztooh

macrumors 6502a
Jul 5, 2011
678
0
I agree for the most part that people get defensive when their device has inferior tech, but some people (myself included) really don't want a larger screen. I like the size of the iPhone (and other phones with 3.x" screens). That's just me, though.

The size* of the iPhone isn't bad, but the fact that ~45% of it's face is bezel is terrible. The screen size could be improved without affecting the overall size much.

*While the overall size is okay, the ergonomics suck. This is why I'm an advocate of a redesign, featuring a larger screen and a better overall feel. Not to mention, something that's not all glass and shatters from a 2.5' drop...and yes, that happened to me.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
491
0
I like how you latched onto one word and ignored the actual argument. I called Samsung's preorder claim "nebulous" because it has been continuously misreported and misinterpreted (by design, in my opinion). I don't doubt that they had 9 million preorders from global carriers. It' s extremely impressive for Samsung. It just doesn't come close in actual sales to the iPhone.

9 million preordered, but they aren't expected to sell 10 million until July. Two months after launch. Not quite the same hype. But it is an amazing phone and millions want it.

Normally, I would have agreed that there was little chance an Android device of any kind sold 9 million plus (actual sales, not shipments), before they went on sale in stores. But the fact that Qualcomm is having difficulty filling all the Samsung orders and there are delays (which personally effected me), I am inclined to believe what Samsung is reporting.

As for actual sales data, last quarter showed Samsung selling 8 million more phones than Apple and is likely to be about 15-20 million more than Apple this quarter, with the S2, S3 and Note making up the majority of those sales. And the follow on quarter will see a huge dip in iPhone sales as people will wait for the iP5 in October (which is normal).

Point is, this is probably the first Android based product that has produced as much hype as an Apple product release. Now the question is, will Samsung continue this trend?
 

BaldiMac

macrumors G3
Jan 24, 2008
9,010
11,201
Normally, I would have agreed that there was little chance an Android device of any kind sold 9 million plus (actual sales, not shipments), before they went on sale in stores. But the fact that Qualcomm is having difficulty filling all the Samsung orders and there are delays (which personally effected me), I am inclined to believe what Samsung is reporting.

Again, Samsung did not sell 9 million S3's prior to release day. They did not claim to have sold 9 million S3's prior to release day. They claimed to have 9 million preorders from global carriers. Not pre-sales to consumers. They are not expected to reach 10 million sales until July. Two months after release.

As for actual sales data, last quarter showed Samsung selling 8 million more phones than Apple and is likely to be about 15-20 million more than Apple this quarter, with the S2, S3 and Note making up the majority of those sales. And the follow on quarter will see a huge dip in iPhone sales as people will wait for the iP5 in October (which is normal).

I like how you shifted the goalposts there. We were talking about S3 sales compared to iPhone sales. Not Samsung as a whole. Also, Samsung does not release actual sales data for their smartphones.

(And I would doubt that the S2, S3, and Note make up a majority of Samsung's sales. You are predicting close to 50 million Samsung smartphones sold. S3 is around 8 million this quarter. Note is averaging 1 million/month. That's 11 million. I doubt the S2 will sell 14 million this quarter.)

Point is, this is probably the first Android based product that has produced as much hype as an Apple product release. Now the question is, will Samsung continue this trend?

Except there is no objective basis for that claim. It's absolutely the best Android release to date. I don't think it is close to Apple's level. Samsung will probably sell around 15-20 million S3s in its first 3 months. Apple sold around double that in the 4S launch quarter.
 

matttye

macrumors 601
Mar 25, 2009
4,957
32
Lincoln, England
Again, Samsung did not sell 9 million S3's prior to release day. They did not claim to have sold 9 million S3's prior to release day. They claimed to have 9 million preorders from global carriers. Not pre-sales to consumers. They are not expected to reach 10 million sales until July. Two months after release.



I like how you shifted the goalposts there. We were talking about S3 sales compared to iPhone sales. Not Samsung as a whole. Also, Samsung does not release actual sales data for their smartphones.

(And I would doubt that the S2, S3, and Note make up a majority of Samsung's sales. You are predicting close to 50 million Samsung smartphones sold. S3 is around 8 million this quarter. Note is averaging 1 million/month. That's 11 million. I doubt the S2 will sell 14 million this quarter.)



Except there is no objective basis for that claim. It's absolutely the best Android release to date. I don't think it is close to Apple's level. Samsung will probably sell around 15-20 million S3s in its first 3 months. Apple sold around double that in the 4S launch quarter.

I don't think a single Samsung smartphone will beat Apple this year, but it sure is heading that way.

Visa and Mastercard are pushing mobile payments with their Paypass/Paywave apps (and they're heavily pushing them at the Olympics here), Barclays has just released Paypass, Paypal supports NFC now. There's Google Wallet in the US. Starbucks and McDonalds have already done a full rollout of NFC terminals here.

Apple will be left behind if they don't implement NFC this year. I suspect they will, but at the same time they do like to take their sweet time about everything so they might not.

Mobile payments are really useful; I think it's something that will interest a lot of people once it starts becoming more popular.
 

0m3ga

macrumors 6502
Mar 1, 2012
491
0
Again, Samsung did not sell 9 million S3's prior to release day. They did not claim to have sold 9 million S3's prior to release day. They claimed to have 9 million preorders from global carriers. Not pre-sales to consumers. They are not expected to reach 10 million sales until July. Two months after release.
And I'm sure that all 9 million of those pre-orders from carriers just sat on the shelves, which is why we had several delays... Because there were too many phones. :rolleyes: You can't be that dense. Of course, only the iPhone is capable of selling out, right?

I like how you shifted the goalposts there. We were talking about S3 sales compared to iPhone sales. Not Samsung as a whole. Also, Samsung does not release actual sales data for their smartphones.
So in your fantasy world, Apple only counts iPhone 4S sales? Of those 35 million phones Apple sold last quarter, none of those were 3GS's or iPhone 4's? So yu want to stick with this story of yours, that Apple sold 35 million 4S's last quarter and not one single 3GS or 4? Don't let a little thing like 'reality' distort your view.

(And I would doubt that the S2, S3, and Note make up a majority of Samsung's sales. You are predicting close to 50 million Samsung smartphones sold. S3 is around 8 million this quarter. Note is averaging 1 million/month. That's 11 million. I doubt the S2 will sell 14 million this quarter.)
well, we'll wait and see what Samsung reports in its quarterly earnings update. And yes, Samsung has been reporting sales numbers now.


Except there is no objective basis for that claim. It's absolutely the best Android release to date. I don't think it is close to Apple's level. Samsung will probably sell around 15-20 million S3s in its first 3 months. Apple sold around double that in the 4S launch quarter.
Again, you are combining ALL iPhones sold to just the S3. Apple didn't sell 30-40 million iPhone 4S's in Q1.
Seriously, is this too hard a concept for you to grasp?
 

chakraj

macrumors 65816
Feb 6, 2008
1,285
10
So Cal
you know what fine...

If you want a phone thats easier to see, and has a much nicer sized screen to view your email and movies or vids on.

if you want a phone that you can do what you want with and not be told you cant load this or you cant do that.

if you want something you can customize

if you want something with removable storage and a removable battery

if you want something with a new chip and with lte and nfc

well if you want all that and more then just go get the gs3...
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
7,464
1,874
Florida
Ah yes, the old iPhone fanboy reaction once they realize they have inferior tech. I don't need all that anyways LOL. :rolleyes: I mean who needs fast processors, larger screens, 4G speeds, SD cards, removeable batteries right? I want my phone to stay with tech and hardware that's years old until Apple decides I am ready for change!

I could honestly care less. My iPhone is already just as fast as the Galaxy SIII. Don't tell me I'm a fanboy. I've had 3 Android devices in succession before my iPhone (Evo 4G --> Nexus S 4G --> Galaxy SIII). I didn't have 4G in my area anyway and an SD card only came in handy when I wanted to put someonething on my phone from my computer. Not everyone needs everything you stated just because YOU do.
 

ljusmc

macrumors member
Jun 23, 2012
97
52
My friend bought the SGS3 and it seems pretty cool, but I still love my iPhone. It does everything I need it to do.
 

Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
3,072
689
Ok, so I just combined Novas launcher feature of recent apps with the stock TouchWiz, and its now all perfect and sweet :D:D:D

I can now multitask without needing to press the home button, just like when I used Zephyr on my jailbroken iPhone. Only difference here is I didn't need to root or anything. Is all available on the android market.

This kind of tells you how great android is. No need to jailbreak to do stuff like this. You can continue updating your phones firmware and keep using these personalize features.

Why can't iOS allow things like these? Its rather easier and nicer than double tapping the home button.

Oh, by the way, I also updated my phones firmware today with the new update and Ive noticed that I have now much more RAM available to me! Yeah! It seems the new update minimize the RAM usage. Another great news for today.

Also, maybe I didn't mention this before, but my SGS3 doesn't get too warm when doing heavy stuff. Im quite impressed. Not a single moment the phone was too hot. All the contrary: it stays pretty cool.
 

batting1000

macrumors 604
Sep 4, 2011
7,464
1,874
Florida
you know what fine...

If you want a phone thats easier to see, and has a much nicer sized screen to view your email and movies or vids on.

I can see my phone just fine...?

if you want a phone that you can do what you want with and not be told you cant load this or you cant do that.

I can do what I want on my iPhone. Not sure what model you've used...

if you want something you can customize

I can customize mine. I can change my wallpaper and organize my icons. What more do I need? Anything else is just overdoing it and sucks up battery. Hence the reason why Android devices have such large batteries compared to iPhone.

if you want something with removable storage and a removable battery

Just buy a 64GB iPhone and you'll be fine...Apple will replace you're battery within a year of purchase, or, you can extend your warranty another year incase you think you'll need a new battery after 1 year.

if you want something with a new chip and with lte and nfc

LTE and NFC are fine, but not a dealbreaker. Who needs a new chip? The 4S is already plenty fast...

well if you want all that and more then just go get the gs3...

My responses

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Ok, so I just combined Novas launcher feature of recent apps with the stock TouchWiz, and its now all perfect and sweet :D:D:D

I can now multitask without needing to press the home button, just like when I used Zephyr on my jailbroken iPhone. Only difference here is I didn't need to root or anything. Is all available on the android market.

This kind of tells you how great android is. No need to jailbreak to do stuff like this. You can continue updating your phones firmware and keep using these personalize features.

Why can't iOS allow things like these? Its rather easier and nicer than double tapping the home button.

I don't need to use my home button either. No jailbreak required.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

macrumors G3
Oct 27, 2009
8,877
10,987
I don't think a single Samsung smartphone will beat Apple this year, but it sure is heading that way.

Visa and Mastercard are pushing mobile payments with their Paypass/Paywave apps (and they're heavily pushing them at the Olympics here), Barclays has just released Paypass, Paypal supports NFC now. There's Google Wallet in the US. Starbucks and McDonalds have already done a full rollout of NFC terminals here.

Apple will be left behind if they don't implement NFC this year. I suspect they will, but at the same time they do like to take their sweet time about everything so they might not.

Mobile payments are really useful; I think it's something that will interest a lot of people once it starts becoming more popular.

NFC won't be a big deal in the mobile market until Apple implements it on the iPhone. At least in America and some other western countries. Some other countries already use it on a daily basis. But here in the US, the average consumer doesn't have much of a clue what NFC is, nor would the average user trust it on a Android phone yet. As fanboyish as it sounds, Apple would have to implement NFC for the iPhone in order for it to gain American or global popularity. The iPhone can probably goes 5 more years without NFC and it won't matter to most, but if they include it on the next iPhone it would spread like wildfire. Sort of how the whole bar code scanning thing caught on.
 

DanteMann

macrumors 6502
May 23, 2011
453
0
NFC won't be a big deal in the mobile market until Apple implements it on the iPhone. At least in America and some other western countries. Some other countries already use it on a daily basis. But here in the US, the average consumer doesn't have much of a clue what NFC is, nor would the average user trust it on a Android phone yet. As fanboyish as it sounds, Apple would have to implement NFC for the iPhone in order for it to gain American or global popularity. The iPhone can probably goes 5 more years without NFC and it won't matter to most, but if they include it on the next iPhone it would spread like wildfire. Sort of how the whole bar code scanning thing caught on.

I'm really hoping you're being sarcastic, but if you're not, definitely put down the k-Aid. WOW!!!
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Opinion. The same was said when the 4s came out. "Apple better release something epic, or they'll lose a lot of customers!". Didn't happen...

Oh, and if you refer to people as iDiehards, etc. you lose all credibility.

Did happen! The 4S is the least selling iPhone of them all....and that was after a delay of 3 months longer than usual and people were anxious to see the new phone. Now you have iOS6 that isnt anything special. If the new phone isnt a 4" screen....whoaa. Will be bad news.
 

nefan65

macrumors 65816
Apr 15, 2009
1,354
15
Did happen! The 4S is the least selling iPhone of them all....and that was after a delay of 3 months longer than usual and people were anxious to see the new phone. Now you have iOS6 that isnt anything special. If the new phone isnt a 4" screen....whoaa. Will be bad news.

Woaa..will be bad news? You're dilusional. Go play with your plastic phone, and show all your friends how cool it is. Make sure to finish your homework too.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
Woaa..will be bad news? You're dilusional. Go play with your plastic phone, and show all your friends how cool it is. Make sure to finish your homework too.

I repeat! IF the New iPhone does NOT have a 4" screen, it will be bad news and many will flock elsewhere.

On the other side of that, if they do, it will sell like hot cakes.

And i havent needed to do homework in many years, but good luck with yours.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
For those who have already got the SG3...what color did you get?

I think the white looks better but the blue looks pretty good too. Just have to see it in person.

For those who will be getting it, what color will you get?
 

nooaah

macrumors 68000
Sep 3, 2009
1,600
165
Philadelphia, PA
Will there be any way through rooting to get rid of the VZW and Samsung bloatware and make the OS more in line with a Nexus device? I've never owned an Android phone or done much looking into with hacking/rooting so I'm completely blind right now. Want to hit the ground running in two weeks, though.
 
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