Phones iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S3

[0m3ga]

Will there be any way through rooting to get rid of the VZW and Samsung bloatware and make the OS more in line with a Nexus device? I've never owned an Android phone or done much looking into with hacking/rooting so I'm completely blind right now. Want to hit the ground running in two weeks, though.

You can get rid off the bloatware, but it is just better to freeze it with an app called Titanium Pro. Unless you know exactly what files to delete, you can risk messing the phone up and then having to do a complete restore.

Rooting is very simple, but don't use a Mac. Needs to be a windows pc. You download 3 files onto your computer, open all 3 (one downloads Samsung drivers, one is called Odin and is the equivalent to Redsnow for jailbreaking, and the last one is a .tar file for rooting. Insert tar file inside odin. Pull out battery, reinsert battery, hold up and down volume buttons together, plug in usb, phone goes into download mode, hit start button on odin. 5 minutes later you are rooted and can now use programs like Titanium Pro and Superuser, which allow you to access 'root' files and alter them. I.e. the bloatware.

Long story short. Root phone. Download Titanium Pro. Load it. Click on each bloatware program in thelist and hit the freeze button. No more bloatware. It is still there if you need it back, but you will never see it and it never activates.

 

[LSUtigers03]

For those who have already got the SG3...what color did you get?

I think the white looks better but the blue looks pretty good too. Just have to see it in person.

For those who will be getting it, what color will you get?

I'm getting it in pebble blue. My upgrade isn't until July 14 so I may see if anyone on xda wants to use an upgrade in exchange for a GSM RAZR MAXX.

 

[nooaah]

You can get rid off the bloatware, but it is just better to freeze it with an app called Titanium Pro. Unless you know exactly what files to delete, you can risk messing the phone up and then having to do a complete restore.

Rooting is very simple, but don't use a Mac. Needs to be a windows pc. You download 3 files onto your computer, open all 3 (one downloads Samsung drivers, one is called Odin and is the equivalent to Redsnow for jailbreaking, and the last one is a .tar file for rooting. Insert tar file inside odin. Pull out battery, reinsert battery, hold up and down volume buttons together, plug in usb, phone goes into download mode, hit start button on odin. 5 minutes later you are rooted and can now use programs like Titanium Pro and Superuser, which allow you to access 'root' files and alter them. I.e. the bloatware.

Long story short. Root phone. Download Titanium Pro. Load it. Click on each bloatware program in thelist and hit the freeze button. No more bloatware. It is still there if you need it back, but you will never see it and it never activates.

Thanks for taking the time to explain. And thank God I have a Mac and PC running side by side at all times in my office.

I haven't been this excited about getting my hands on a new toy since the iPhone 4. I'm just praying VZW won't be a pain in the ass letting me switch off between my 4S and S3 whenever I want. I still love my iPhone and would like to go back to using it at times.

 

[blairh]

Felt this review from Androidpolice was pretty interesting. Reviewer essentially says that the SIII screen can't touch the One X's. I realize they are two different screen technologies, but still interesting.

 

[nooaah]

Felt this review from Androidpolice was pretty interesting. Reviewer essentially says that the SIII screen can't touch the One X's. I realize they are two different screen technologies, but still interesting.

Eh, don't see anything better on VZW.

 

[aztooh]

Woaa..will be bad news? You're dilusional. Go play with your plastic phone, and show all your friends how cool it is. Make sure to finish your homework too.

So pre-4 iPhones sucked then, right?

 

[Vegastouch]

You can get rid off the bloatware, but it is just better to freeze it with an app called Titanium Pro. Unless you know exactly what files to delete, you can risk messing the phone up and then having to do a complete restore.

Rooting is very simple, but don't use a Mac. Needs to be a windows pc. You download 3 files onto your computer, open all 3 (one downloads Samsung drivers, one is called Odin and is the equivalent to Redsnow for jailbreaking, and the last one is a .tar file for rooting. Insert tar file inside odin. Pull out battery, reinsert battery, hold up and down volume buttons together, plug in usb, phone goes into download mode, hit start button on odin. 5 minutes later you are rooted and can now use programs like Titanium Pro and Superuser, which allow you to access 'root' files and alter them. I.e. the bloatware.

Long story short. Root phone. Download Titanium Pro. Load it. Click on each bloatware program in thelist and hit the freeze button. No more bloatware. It is still there if you need it back, but you will never see it and it never activates.

Titanium Backup is nice but other than getting rid of bloatware, with this phone there doesnt seem to be a need to use it again

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Thanks for taking the time to explain. And thank God I have a Mac and PC running side by side at all times in my office.

I haven't been this excited about getting my hands on a new toy since the iPhone 4. I'm just praying VZW won't be a pain in the ass letting me switch off between my 4S and S3 whenever I want. I still love my iPhone and would like to go back to using it at times.

Is why i like Sim cards better. I broke my Wifes phone one day(she hated it anyways and wasnt a smartphone) and just went to a store and got a prepaid one that she liked better. Slipped in the Sim card and off she went.

 

[DodgeV83]

Did happen! The 4S is the least selling iPhone of them all....

Source? Everything I can find says the iPhone 4S still has the first-day sales record for any phone, and that the majority of iPhone sales since then have been the 4S.

 

[Vegastouch]

Source? Everything I can find says the iPhone 4S still has the first-day sales record for any phone, and that the majority of iPhone sales since then have been the 4S.

I'm not talking about one day sales. In one of these type of threads, someone posted results of the three most selling phones and the two ahead of the 4s was the 3GS and the iP4. So no, it isn't the worst of them ALL, but worst of the latest.
I am on my phone about to sign out so I'm not going to search for the thread. It's one of these GS3 type threads.

 

[DodgeV83]

I'm not talking about one day sales. In one of these type of threads, someone posted results of the three most selling phones and the two ahead of the 4s was the 3GS and the iP4. So no, it isn't the worst of them ALL, but worst of the latest.
I am on my phone about to sign out so I'm not going to search for the thread. It's one of these GS3 type threads.

An iPhone that have been out for 3 years and is still being sold, has more total sales than the iPhone 4S that has been out for 8 months.

A iPhone that has been out for 2 years and is still being sold, has more total sales than the iPhone 4S that has been out for 8 months.

Even if true, you cannot use those numbers to show that Apple "lost a lot of customers" as a result of the iPhone 4S release. If anything, the numbers show the exact opposite, as the iPhone 4S is selling at a much faster rate than the iPhone 3GS and iPhone 4 did during the same timeframe.

 

[0m3ga]

Titanium Backup is nice but other than getting rid of bloatware, with this phone there doesnt seem to be a need to use it again.

You mean, other than backing up all your apps and data?

 

[matttye]

NFC won't be a big deal in the mobile market until Apple implements it on the iPhone. At least in America and some other western countries. Some other countries already use it on a daily basis. But here in the US, the average consumer doesn't have much of a clue what NFC is, nor would the average user trust it on a Android phone yet. As fanboyish as it sounds, Apple would have to implement NFC for the iPhone in order for it to gain American or global popularity. The iPhone can probably goes 5 more years without NFC and it won't matter to most, but if they include it on the next iPhone it would spread like wildfire. Sort of how the whole bar code scanning thing caught on.

I can't comment on the US, but visa and Samsung are pushing it hard for the Olympics this year in the UK. Although, rather annoyingly, NFC payments will only be a feature of a limited edition Olympics version of the phone. Apparently it's more of a "preview" than an actual rolling out.

The post office is also rolling out NFC terminals at its' branches.

Clearly the world doesn't need Apple as lots of places have either already implemented it or are testing it.

 

[Technarchy]

I look forward to seeing the mass Galaxy SIII sell off when the next iPhone is announced.

 

[mbell1975]

I look forward to seeing the mass Galaxy SIII sell off when the next iPhone is announced.

That would be going backwards. Smart people won't do that.

 

[nooaah]

That would be going backwards. Smart people won't do that.

sSheep

 

[LSUtigers03]

I look forward to seeing the mass Galaxy SIII sell off when the next iPhone is announced.

I don't think this will happen. I think most people who have the Galaxy S3 have it because they love the phone not because there isn't a new iPhone out yet. This may be hard to believe but there are a lot of people out there that think there are better phones than the iPhone.

 

[BaldiMac]

And I'm sure that all 9 million of those pre-orders from carriers just sat on the shelves, which is why we had several delays... Because there were too many phones. Of course, only the iPhone is capable of selling out, right?

Do you not understand the difference between preorders to carriers and preorders to customers? Preorders to carriers have not been sold. I'm sure a whole lot of S3s were sold on launch day. We just have no idea how many. I am not questioning that the S3 has sold out in many markets. And that's without a US release.

So in your fantasy world, Apple only counts iPhone 4S sales? Of those 35 million phones Apple sold last quarter, none of those were 3GS's or iPhone 4's? So yu want to stick with this story of yours, that Apple sold 35 million 4S's last quarter and not one single 3GS or 4? Don't let a little thing like 'reality' distort your view.

Good strawman. I never said that. Estimates are that 89% of iPhones sold are iPhone 4S. So around 31 million iPhone 4S sold last quarter and 33 million sold in the iPhone 4S launch quarter.

http://allthingsd.com/20120126/nine-out-of-10-iphone-buyers-are-picking-the-4s/

well, we'll wait and see what Samsung reports in its quarterly earnings update. And yes, Samsung has been reporting sales numbers now.

No, Samsung does not report quarterly smartphone sales. (And do you really think 14 million S2s were possibly sold this quarter? Really?)

Again, you are combining ALL iPhones sold to just the S3. Apple didn't sell 30-40 million iPhone 4S's in Q1.
Seriously, is this too hard a concept for you to grasp?

Except, you are wrong.

The 4S is the least selling iPhone of them all....and that was after a delay of 3 months longer than usual and people were anxious to see the new phone.

Wow. Somehow, more than doubling sales of the iPhone 4, makes the iPhone 4S the least selling iPhone ever in your world.

I'm not talking about one day sales. In one of these type of threads, someone posted results of the three most selling phones and the two ahead of the 4s was the 3GS and the iP4. So no, it isn't the worst of them ALL, but worst of the latest.
I am on my phone about to sign out so I'm not going to search for the thread. It's one of these GS3 type threads.

Doesn't take much for you to accept numbers as long as they fit your point of view.

 

[cardinalryan]

This is my new favorite thread of all time!!!

I can't believe that there are a select few people who continue to hold on to this belief that the iPhone is better than the GS3.

iPhone had it's day, but that day is in the rear view mirror, I say this in all seriousness. Financial advisors are telling people to dump their Apple stock now and there is a reason for this.

With Steve Jobs gone, so too is the Apple innovation that people love. It is sad, I will miss it, but it's over. Count me as one who will be shocked if Apple is still prospering at high levels in 10 years. By no means am I saying that Apple will close it's doors...nothing close to that...I'm just saying that the heyday is over, but it was a helluva ride while it lasted.

 

[nefan65]

So pre-4 iPhones sucked then, right?

To some extent. But at that time, all phones were mostly plastic. Apple at least changed it up with the 4/4s, and gave us something better.

I'd hope that in 2012 manufacturers would be able to utilize something better than plastic. If the SIII is so awesome, why not Carbon Fiber? Liquid Metal?

 

[BaldiMac]

I can't believe that there are a select few people who continue to hold on to this belief that the iPhone is better than the GS3.

I can't believe you think that only a select few people believe the iPhone is better.

iPhone had it's day, but that day is in the rear view mirror, I say this in all seriousness.

In all seriousness? Maybe. But not actually based on any evidence.

Financial advisors are telling people to dump their Apple stock now and there is a reason for this.

Consensus rating on AAPL is a strong buy.

http://www.investorguide.com/stock-analysis.php?ticker=AAPL

 

[aztooh]

To some extent. But at that time, all phones were mostly plastic. Apple at least changed it up with the 4/4s, and gave us something better.

I'd hope that in 2012 manufacturers would be able to utilize something better than plastic. If the SIII is so awesome, why not Carbon Fiber? Liquid Metal?

Cost?

To each their own, but I'll take plastic all day every day over my fragile 4S.

 

[MonkeySee....]

I don't think this will happen. I think most people who have the Galaxy S3 have it because they love the phone not because there isn't a new iPhone out yet. This may be hard to believe but there are a lot of people out there that think there are better phones than the iPhone.

Judging by this board I'd say the majority have seen the Mock ups of the new iPhone (fake or not fake) and have got their knickers in and twist and moved to the SIII.

Mental but true

 

[nefan65]

Cost?

To each their own, but I'll take plastic all day every day over my fragile 4S.

I've had more plastic phones break than any iPhone I've owned, including the 4. I've had the 4 since it came out, and no case. No scratches, dings, or other blemishes.

To each their own indeed.

 

[batting1000]

And how do you exit an app, for example?

AssistiveTouch. Settings > General > Accessibility > AssistiveTouch.

I don't have to touch my home button (unless of course I want to turn the screen on), lock button, volume buttons, or mute switch.

http://techc0re.wordpress.com/2012/02/18/ios-tip-never-use-your-buttons-again/

 

[LIVEFRMNYC]

I can't comment on the US, but visa and Samsung are pushing it hard for the Olympics this year in the UK. Although, rather annoyingly, NFC payments will only be a feature of a limited edition Olympics version of the phone. Apparently it's more of a "preview" than an actual rolling out.

The post office is also rolling out NFC terminals at its' branches.

Clearly the world doesn't need Apple as lots of places have either already implemented it or are testing it.

My point is it's not going to hit the public mainstream until a household brand device implements it. NFC has been out for awhile, and most still don't use it.

It's not about whether you or anyone likes Apple or not. It's about the way things are at the moment.