Phones iPhone 4S vs Galaxy S3

[BaldiMac]

Bearing in mind Apple isn't even the worldwide smartphone leader, it would be more likely to pick up if Samsung implemented it in all of their phones

I agree with you for the most part that VISA and MC will drive NFC adoption, but I think that iOS will have a much greater influence than Android. Data such as web browsing, maps, and wifi usage has always shown that features of iOS are actually used more than their Android counterparts.

 

[blairh]

LG are known for poor software, give it a thorough testing before buying one.

I've done my homework on Optimus, the Android skin created by LG. It's actually minimal compared to TW and Sense. I'd be purchasing it unlocked so I'd probably not get a chance to demo it. Unless it officially comes to the States.

Leaning towards the next iPhone right now.

 

[sentinelsx]

I've done my homework on Optimus, the Android skin created by LG. It's actually minimal compared to TW and Sense. I'd be purchasing it unlocked so I'd probably not get a chance to demo it. Unless it officially comes to the States.

Leaning towards the next iPhone right now.

You will probably find the next iPhone in stores earlier than the LG judging from their slow progress with NA roll outs.

 

[0m3ga]

I'm sure nfc terminals use a standard that all payment providers will use, otherwise you wouldn't have any idea whether your device would work with the one in any given shop.

You'd think that, but you would be wrong. NFC is still in its infancy and has some major security hurdles, like rfid jamming. Additionally, if you have any the thinnest bit of metal on the back covering the nfc chip, it won't work. How do I know? My S3 is capable of programming nfc tags and with my plastic and metal battery cover it won't work. As long as there is carbon fiber or pastic on the back it works perfectly.

So this would limit people's ability to use certain cases.

 

[matttye]

You'd think that, but you would be wrong. NFC is still in its infancy and has some major security hurdles, like rfid jamming. Additionally, if you have any the thinnest bit of metal on the back covering the nfc chip, it won't work. How do I know? My S3 is capable of programming nfc tags and with my plastic and metal battery cover it won't work. As long as there is carbon fiber or pastic on the back it works perfectly.

So this would limit people's ability to use certain cases.

I know about the metal thing, but your post didn't mention anything about standards.

As far as I know the main one in use right now is Mastercard Paypass. Will nfc terminals have to be updated when other card issuers start to support nfc, or can the others make their systems compatible with Paypass?

 

[0m3ga]

I know about the metal thing, but your post didn't mention anything about standards.

As far as I know the main one in use right now is Mastercard Paypass. Will nfc terminals have to be updated when other card issuers start to support nfc, or can the others make their systems compatible with Paypass?

Good question. Right now Europe and Japan seem to be the best estqblshed, but unless machines can be retrofitted to allow for multiple payment types (i.e. like current machines are able to read visa, mc, american express and so on - by the way Frank Abagnale invented that magnetic strip on the back of credit cards. Don't recognize the name? Think of the movie CatchMe if you Can with Leonardo DiCaprio. Had a chance to meet and talk with Mr. abqgnale.)

Anyway, until we have a set world standard, accepted by everyone, or the ability to reconfigure machines and add a second layer of protection to prevent things like rfid jammng and manipulation, we will have issues. It won't stop the rol out of NFC, but we are going to have a lot of upset people that will complain about the tech, possbly giving it a bad rap.

 

[nooaah]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171581

Any opinions on this card?

 

[fr4c]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820171581

Any opinions on this card?

Get this instead:
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[Sensamic]

One word: Swype.

Amazing keyboard. Just downloaded and its the best of all Ive tried. So, so good.

Lets see what Google has to offer new tomorrow on Android 4.1.

I read that Android 5.0 was also going to make its debut this fall. Do someone know if this is true or 4.1 is the only big update this year?

 

[Vegastouch]

Get this instead:
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Good price. I got a PNY 32GB class 10 at Best Buy for $32.99.

 

[Vegastouch]

Do you not understand the difference between preorders to carriers and preorders to customers? Preorders to carriers have not been sold. I'm sure a whole lot of S3s were sold on launch day. We just have no idea how many. I am not questioning that the S3 has sold out in many markets. And that's without a US release.

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/samsungs-shipment-crunch-could-cause-2-million-lost-sales-this-quarter/

> Samsung’s Shipment Crunch Could Cause 2 Million Lost Sales This Quarter

June 26, 2012 David Beren 4 Comments



While heavy demand for a new product is generally a case most companies wish for, in Samsung’s case it may have a heavy price. As Samsung struggles to keep up with demand, the lack of available units may cost the company 2 million units of sales in just one month. There is little question that Samsung’s Galaxy S III is in heavy demand and Samsung says it’s on track to become its fastest selling smartphone ever, with sales likely to top more than 10 million units sold in the first two months.

“Samsung might have been caught off guard by the demand, not because they did not believe in their own products, but because they might have over-estimated the competition,” said Gartner analyst Carolina Milanesi. “In other words, aside from the iPhone and HTC’s oneX there’s not much out there at the moment, which would have certainly helped Samsung.”

Samsung blames part of the delay on issues caused by the case that were a “temporary blip” and have been since been resolved. For T-Mobile and Sprint customers, the launch has been rocky, with T-Mobile moving to a two-pronged approach to avoid a launch day frenzy that was met with disappointing quantities of Galaxy S III units for sale.

As it stands, Analysts expect Samsung to get back on track next quarter, but not before Barclays lowered forecasts for Samsung’s second quarter Galaxy S III shipments to 6.5 million from 8 million. However, they raised third-quarter estimate forecasts by 1 million to more than 15 million units sold.

The obvious statement here is that Samsung’s Galaxy S III unit is one of the first handsets to be truly compared to the iPhone as a bona-fide contender, rather than the “…least bad alternative,” says CLSA analyst Matt Evans.

“The change in status is most evident in the uniformity of the device among the five U.S. carriers. Unlike the Galaxy S II, there’s little customization. Samsung has obviously developed huge leverage in negotiations with carriers and created a ‘must have’ handset.”

 

[PacificBeach]

For those who have already got the SG3...what color did you get?

I think the white looks better but the blue looks pretty good too. Just have to see it in person.

For those who will be getting it, what color will you get?

Played with one today! Great device but i really dislike touchwiz!
Pebble Blue is a beautiful color!

 

[0m3ga]

One word: Swype.

Amazing keyboard. Just downloaded and its the best of all Ive tried. So, so good.

Lets see what Google has to offer new tomorrow on Android 4.1.

I read that Android 5.0 was also going to make its debut this fall. Do someone know if this is true or 4.1 is the only big update this year?

there will be no Android OS 5.0 in 2012.

Jelly Bean IS 4.1 and is not a completely new OS, like Honeycomb or ICS. It will be like going from iOS 5.0.1 to 5.1. Incremental increase, nothing more.

As for keyboards, my favorite is now Swiftkey 3. The way it is able to predict the next word you want and it's ability to correctwords and fill in spaces is pretty friggn cool. unlike iOS keyboardmwhich sucks at everything. I'm always having to fix what I type on my iPad. Gonna sell it soon. Just waiting for XDA to finish the last tweaks to CM9 for the Touchpad. having 4.0.4 on the TP rocks.

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Played with one today! Great device but i really dislike touchwiz!
Pebble Blue is a beautiful color!

That is the great thing about Android. Don't like Touchwiz, dump or change it. Takes 5 minutes.

 

[depths]

Swiftkey 3 really is great. It doesn't look quite as nice as stock but the predictions and quick acces to numbers/symbols saves so much time.

 

[DodgeV83]

“The change in status is most evident in the uniformity of the device among the five U.S. carriers. Unlike the Galaxy S II, there’s little customization. Samsung has obviously developed huge leverage in negotiations with carriers and created a ‘must have’ handset.”[/I]

Why is uniformity is even an issue for Samsung? When the international S3 has the best GPU of any phone ever, but the US S3 has a slower GPU than the S2, something needs to be fixed!

 

[BaldiMac]

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/samsungs-shipment-crunch-could-cause-2-million-lost-sales-this-quarter/

> Samsung’s Shipment Crunch Could Cause 2 Million Lost Sales This Quarter

June 26, 2012 David Beren 4 Comments



While heavy demand for a new product is generally a case most companies wish for, in Samsung’s case it may have a heavy price. As Samsung struggles to keep up with demand, the lack of available units may cost the company 2 million units of sales in just one month. There is little question that Samsung’s Galaxy S III is in heavy demand and Samsung says it’s on track to become its fastest selling smartphone ever, with sales likely to top more than 10 million units sold in the first two months.

“Samsung might have been caught off guard by the demand, not because they did not believe in their own products, but because they might have over-estimated the competition,” said Gartner analyst Carolina Milanesi. “In other words, aside from the iPhone and HTC’s oneX there’s not much out there at the moment, which would have certainly helped Samsung.”

Samsung blames part of the delay on issues caused by the case that were a “temporary blip” and have been since been resolved. For T-Mobile and Sprint customers, the launch has been rocky, with T-Mobile moving to a two-pronged approach to avoid a launch day frenzy that was met with disappointing quantities of Galaxy S III units for sale.

As it stands, Analysts expect Samsung to get back on track next quarter, but not before Barclays lowered forecasts for Samsung’s second quarter Galaxy S III shipments to 6.5 million from 8 million. However, they raised third-quarter estimate forecasts by 1 million to more than 15 million units sold.

The obvious statement here is that Samsung’s Galaxy S III unit is one of the first handsets to be truly compared to the iPhone as a bona-fide contender, rather than the “…least bad alternative,” says CLSA analyst Matt Evans.

“The change in status is most evident in the uniformity of the device among the five U.S. carriers. Unlike the Galaxy S II, there’s little customization. Samsung has obviously developed huge leverage in negotiations with carriers and created a ‘must have’ handset.”

What's your point? The information that you are presenting here has nothing to do with what I said.

 

[irDigital0l]

Saw several Galaxy SIII reviews on youtube.

Would totally get it instead of the iPhone 4S.

Siri still seems to be a lot better, SIII might have some minor autobrightness and microphone issues but everything else seems great.

The display looks awesome, close to "retina" display, but I think it has better saturation (might be a lil to much though), really light, a good battery life but with a 4.8'' screen.

Pretty impressed.

It seems it has a lot of gimmicks though, but they seem pretty cool.

I do think a better comparison will be the SIII and the new iPhone whatever it will be.

 

[Vegastouch]

Why is uniformity is even an issue for Samsung? When the international S3 has the best GPU of any phone ever, but the US S3 has a slower GPU than the S2, something needs to be fixed!

They arent talking about that. They are talking about not having to give each US carrier their own version and just kept it the same.

They had to go with a dual core in the USA because of the LTE network...is what ive read anyways, so they gave it twice the RAM as the UK version.

Im not going to look because unlike you, i really dont care about benchmarks. It doesnt define the phone but if i looked, which im not going to do....im sure i can find other scores that have better marks.

However, in this thread, i believe blairh posted a link to a review and the benchmarks were the best of everyphone in it though i have no idea what the benchmarks were for....and i didnt care enough to look at it that closely.

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What's your point? The information that you are presenting here has nothing to do with what I said.

Sure it does. Sales got slowed because they cant keep up with th demand. Pretty obvious that the phones that were preordered are sold. They are scarce in stores right now and online there have limited supplies.

At the T-Mobile store i was at on Saturday, they said they will get some (here in Vegas) on Wednesday and will probably be getting mostly blue ones...even though they had a setback with that color not being right and had to scrap thousands of the cases so they are doing their best to churn them out for the demand. White must have been real popular is how i see it.

I know this doesnt mean anything to you but i also know thats because you dont want to admit those preorders are sold!! July is in one week and you are assuming that 10 million mark will be at the end of the month.

Not that it means much to me, i know this phone is going to be real popular. But it sure seems to mean a lot to you for some reason. How dare another phone be iPhone-esque in sales!

Comptition is great, embrace it.

 

[mbell1975]

http://www.tmonews.com/2012/06/samsungs-shipment-crunch-could-cause-2-million-lost-sales-this-quarter/

> Samsung’s Shipment Crunch Could Cause 2 Million Lost Sales This Quarter

June 26, 2012 David Beren 4 Comments



While heavy demand for a new product is generally a case most companies wish for, in Samsung’s case it may have a heavy price. As Samsung struggles to keep up with demand, the lack of available units may cost the company 2 million units of sales in just one month. There is little question that Samsung’s Galaxy S III is in heavy demand and Samsung says it’s on track to become its fastest selling smartphone ever, with sales likely to top more than 10 million units sold in the first two months.

“Samsung might have been caught off guard by the demand, not because they did not believe in their own products, but because they might have over-estimated the competition,” said Gartner analyst Carolina Milanesi. “In other words, aside from the iPhone and HTC’s oneX there’s not much out there at the moment, which would have certainly helped Samsung.”

Samsung blames part of the delay on issues caused by the case that were a “temporary blip” and have been since been resolved. For T-Mobile and Sprint customers, the launch has been rocky, with T-Mobile moving to a two-pronged approach to avoid a launch day frenzy that was met with disappointing quantities of Galaxy S III units for sale.

As it stands, Analysts expect Samsung to get back on track next quarter, but not before Barclays lowered forecasts for Samsung’s second quarter Galaxy S III shipments to 6.5 million from 8 million. However, they raised third-quarter estimate forecasts by 1 million to more than 15 million units sold.

The obvious statement here is that Samsung’s Galaxy S III unit is one of the first handsets to be truly compared to the iPhone as a bona-fide contender, rather than the “…least bad alternative,” says CLSA analyst Matt Evans.

“The change in status is most evident in the uniformity of the device among the five U.S. carriers. Unlike the Galaxy S II, there’s little customization. Samsung has obviously developed huge leverage in negotiations with carriers and created a ‘must have’ handset.”

If Samsung would have been prepared for this, they would have shattered 4s sales in the firs month. The phone s in such high demand, stores can't even get one to demo

 

[0m3ga]

Why is uniformity is even an issue for Samsung? When the international S3 has the best GPU of any phone ever, but the US S3 has a slower GPU than the S2, something needs to be fixed!

Not sure why you continue to put out crap info. I happen to own both the S2 and S3 and just ran a benchmark on both. Results below. I'll let you guess which one is the S2 and which is the S3.

 

[DodgeV83]

They arent talking about that. They are talking about not having to give each US carrier their own version and just kept it the same.

They had to go with a dual core in the USA because of the LTE network...is what ive read anyways, so they gave it twice the RAM as the UK version.

Im not going to look because unlike you, i really dont care about benchmarks. It doesnt define the phone but if i looked, which im not going to do....im sure i can find other scores that have better marks.

However, in this thread, i believe blairh posted a link to a review and the benchmarks were the best of everyphone in it though i have no idea what the benchmarks were for....and i didnt care enough to look at it that closely.

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Sure it does. Sales got slowed because they cant keep up with th demand. Pretty obvious that the phones that were preordered are sold. They are scarce in stores right now and online there have limited supplies.

At the T-Mobile store i was at on Saturday, they said they will get some (here in Vegas) on Wednesday and will probably be getting mostly blue ones...even though they had a setback with that color not being right and had to scrap thousands of the cases so they are doing their best to churn them out for the demand. White must have been real popular is how i see it.

I know this doesnt mean anything to you but i also know thats because you dont want to admit those preorders are sold!! July is in one week and you are assuming that 10 million mark will be at the end of the month.

Not that it means much to me, i know this phone is going to be real popular. But it sure seems to mean a lot to you for some reason. How dare another phone be iPhone-esque in sales!

Comptition is great, embrace it.

Hey, this is possibly the greatest disparity in smartphone versions with the same name since Android's debut. Considering that, I find it interesting that your article points out how all US versions are very much the same, while they also have half the graphics processing power as the international version, and less than last year's phone.

Honest question, has it ever happened in the history of smartphones that a new phone is slower than last year's version?

In any case, I still haven't seen any data on how many of these have shipped, only that there have been 9-10 million preorders by over 100 global carriers. Were those 9-10 million delivered on the first day? Is that the amount expected to be delivered over the quarter? How many of this smaller subset have been sold to customers thus far?

No one knows.

 

[0m3ga]

Hey, this is possibly the greatest disparity in smartphone versions with the same name since Android's debut. Considering that, I find it interesting that your article points out how all US versions are very much the same, while they also have half the graphics processing power as the international version, and less than last year's phone.

Honest question, has it ever happened in the history of smartphones that a new phone is slower than last year's version?

In any case, I still haven't seen any data on how many of these have shipped, only that there have been 9-10 million preorders by over 100 global carriers. Were those 9-10 million delivered on the first day? Is that the amount expected to be delivered over the quarter? How many of this smaller subset have been sold to customers thus far?

No one knows.

Again, you are talking about something which you know nothing about. You make yourself look worse with each additional post.

 

[nooaah]

If Samsung would have been prepared for this, they would have shattered 4s sales in the firs month. The phone s in such high demand, stores can't even get one to demo

This is coming from an S3 owner (well, on pre-order) but I know Samsung has said they are meeting demand now after falling behind earlier. I don't think they would've broken any records no matter what, but this is clearly one of the most, if not the most, successful cell phone launches not made by Apple in a long time.

 

[DodgeV83]

Not sure why you continue to put out crap info. I happen to own both the S2 and S3 and just ran a benchmark on both. Results below. I'll let you guess which one is the S2 and which is the S3.

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Because its true? Here are the industry accepted and resolution standardized benchmarks:

 

[0m3ga]

Because its true? Here are the industry accepted and resolution standardized benchmarks:

Here educate yourself: http://www.anandtech.com/show/5810/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-performance-preview

It's funny. For someone that doesn't even own an S2 or S3, as I do, and show you with evidence that you are wrong, by actually running benchmarks on both phones just now, you keep your head firmly stuck in the sand. You're like a 5 year old kid putting his hands over his ears saying, "La la la la. I can't hear you. La la la la"