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matttye

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You mean like JB's swipe up to close an app; ala WebOS? I see..:cool:

I guess JB also stole from Apple...you know, the whole "Buttery" thing. iOS has been running like "Butter" for a while.

Not sure that Google stole that from WebOS.

In ice cream sandwich they implemented a lot of swipe gestures; swipe a notification aside, swipe an app aside in the multitasking window, swipe browser tabs aside in chrome.

Being able to swipe an app off the screen is just an extension of that.
 

nefan65

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Apr 15, 2009
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Not sure that Google stole that from WebOS.

In ice cream sandwich they implemented a lot of swipe gestures; swipe a notification aside, swipe an app aside in the multitasking window, swipe browser tabs aside in chrome.

Being able to swipe an app off the screen is just an extension of that.

Swipe, and close [meaning to terminate the app] is from WebOS. During the I/O presentation, the person doing the presentation said "This is new too, when you want to close and terminate the running app, just swipe it up off the screen".
 

matttye

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Swipe, and close [meaning to terminate the app] is from WebOS. During the I/O presentation, the person doing the presentation said "This is new too, when you want to close and terminate the running app, just swipe it up off the screen".

I'm not saying that it wasn't in WebOS first, just that Google probably came up with the idea on their own; it's not that different to their other gestures after all.

Not saying they didn't steal it, just that it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they came up with the idea themselves rather than seeing it in WebOS. :p
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I personally don't care who steals from who. In fact, I wish Apple stole more from Google (better keyboard, better mail, better browser...).

Everyone copies from everyone and that makes each respective platform better. The only time copying gets ridiculous is if people say when Apple copies, they're just adopting industry standards, but when others copy, they're just copycats and not innovators.
 

nefan65

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I'm not saying that it wasn't in WebOS first, just that Google probably came up with the idea on their own; it's not that different to their other gestures after all.

Not saying they didn't steal it, just that it's not beyond the realms of possibility that they came up with the idea themselves rather than seeing it in WebOS. :p

Right...so using your logic, Apple didn't STEAL notifications. They already had it, just didn't release it...I'll need to remember that for all future discussions.

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I personally don't care who steals from who. In fact, I wish Apple stole more from Google (better keyboard, better mail, better browser...).

Everyone copies from everyone and that makes each respective platform better. The only time copying gets ridiculous is if people say when Apple copies, they're just adopting industry standards, but when others copy, they're just copycats and not innovators.

Goes both ways. Go to other boards, and it's no different...
 

matttye

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Right...so using your logic, Apple didn't STEAL notifications. They already had it, just didn't release it...I'll need to remember that for all future discussions.

Its possible, but Apple didn't have anything even remotely similar. Google has lots of similar gestures already, some of which serve similar purposes!
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Not sure that Google stole that from WebOS.

In ice cream sandwich they implemented a lot of swipe gestures; swipe a notification aside, swipe an app aside in the multitasking window, swipe browser tabs aside in chrome.

Being able to swipe an app off the screen is just an extension of that.

I dont know if WebOS had that or not(never used WebOS) but i sure do like it that Android does now. WebOS didnt last long as far a i know so if they copied, at least they took one good thing from it.

I hated not being able to get rid of notifications that i didnt want to read...such as a Facebook notice from someone that always posts meaningless things. Love that i can swipe those away.

Everybody copies so i dont know what the big deal is.
 

alphaod

macrumors Core
Feb 9, 2008
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Not sure why you continue to put out crap info. I happen to own both the S2 and S3 and just ran a benchmark on both. Results below. I'll let you guess which one is the S2 and which is the S3.

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Are you sure you don't have the International S3, oppose to the US S3?
 

0m3ga

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Mar 1, 2012
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Are you sure you don't have the International S3, oppose to the US S3?

Yep. As you can see, it says i747 aka at&t version of the Galaxy S3.

Edit: by the way, you can tell from the image it was the US variant. It's the only mobile device running 2gb of RAM.

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0m3ga

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Right...so using your logic, Apple didn't STEAL notifications. They already had it, just didn't release it...I'll need to remember that for all future discussions...

I agree with you. Google saw something that just works and stole it for ICS. Just like a couple of Cydia developers did for jailbroken iphones/ipads. WebOS is defunct. Why not use great ideas from a dead OS?
 

Sensamic

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Mar 26, 2010
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I prefer offline dictation because I'd rather not use the Internet for something that can be done on the device itself.

Everyone keeps asking "well when will you need to use offline dictation" or variations of that question, but the question should be why the hell does dictation need to use the network in the first place?

There are no disadvantages to offline dictation. There are disadvantages to online dictation.

My 2p.

Very, very well said.

Im curious to try the new Google Voice Search and Google Now. I suppose it will work with other languagues, since Google Voice Search already does. The new swype up from the bottom of the screen to activate Voice search is awesome. Way better than double click home button for Siri.

It has taken me a week to adapt to the keyboards on Android coming from iOS. Swiftkey is also awesome. It learns my most common words and adds them automatically. Plus many other options to customize the keyboard. This is just far more advanced than iOS.

Every day I use Google Maps on Android Im more and more surprised. Theres no way Apple can ever beat them at this. The latest additions are offline maps and compass mode on Street View (plus street view inside buildings).

I think Apple will always have trouble adding this kind of features because of their own restrictions.
 

onthecouchagain

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Mar 29, 2011
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I finally handled an SGIII in person today, and I have to say the form factor is nice. I couldn't believe how thin it was. The screen is definitely pushing the boundaries of a device that is easily handled with one hand, but I could see people getting used to it. THe build quality is excellent. It doesn't feel cheap at all.

However, there are two things I can't get over. Admittedly it was only a brief time, TouchWiz just irks me. Something about it is messy and clunky. I just love the sleekness of stock ICS (and soon JB). And secondly, I can't stand the hard button. I'm disappointed Samsung didn't go with on screen buttons like the GNexus did. I've gotten so spoiled by the OS home button that having a hard button just doesn't feel right.

Just me though. Lovely device, but I'm happy to stick with my GN.
 

monkeylui

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Oct 11, 2011
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A Galaxy far, far away
I finally handled an SGIII in person today, and I have to say the form factor is nice. I couldn't believe how thin it was. The screen is definitely pushing the boundaries of a device that is easily handled with one hand, but I could see people getting used to it. THe build quality is excellent. It doesn't feel cheap at all.

However, there are two things I can't get over. Admittedly it was only a brief time, TouchWiz just irks me. Something about it is messy and clunky. I just love the sleekness of stock ICS (and soon JB). And secondly, I can't stand the hard button. I'm disappointed Samsung didn't go with on screen buttons like the GNexus did. I've gotten so spoiled by the OS home button that having a hard button just doesn't feel right.

Just me though. Lovely device, but I'm happy to stick with my GN.

That's interesting about the home button. I like it. Coming from iPhone I'm use to having it down there. It's unobtrusive I think.

I agree though that it is a lovely device. I'm so glad I got it. While I'm still learning it from transitioning from iPhone I gotta say it's pretty easy to use & just works. Yes, it just works. Lol.

The only think I've done different is add widget locker. Other than that I'm fine with the device as is. I don't really have time to install, & research, roms & all that fancy stuff. So using some of the stuff that's in the play store works for me, like widget locker.
 

monkeylui

macrumors 6502
Oct 11, 2011
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A Galaxy far, far away
To the back & forth of who stole what. Who cares?? Everything is derivative of something else. Does it really matter? Where would we be if only Ford had the 1st car door handles, oh crap, maybe horse carriages had them first. Stop the presses!!!
 

nfl46

macrumors G3
Oct 5, 2008
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At the end of the day, all the OS will have the same thing. Since Apple starting pushing Siri with the 4S, now everyone wants a Siri competitor. Of course there were things before Siri but it wasn't pushed as a must have feature like it. There's only so much you can do to make your OS different. I just don't get the whole stealing features argument because everyone takes ideals from each other but twist them to fit their OS.
 

aldo82

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Feb 8, 2011
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At the end of the day, all the OS will have the same thing.

I'm not convinced unless apple open up more in the future. I have been a big iOS fan and would love to stick with them but I'm frustrated by their lack of openess. Android may be too open I'm not sure but nto allowing me to use a different browser, or sms client or email client as default is just ridulous. Why can't I use a different keyboard if I prefer. Even broswer apps have to be based on safari without all the good bits. I really don't get their approach now the app store is mature. 3rd party developers could make iOS so much better (I suppose thats where jailbreak comes in)
 

nefan65

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Apr 15, 2009
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I agree with you. Google saw something that just works and stole it for ICS. Just like a couple of Cydia developers did for jailbroken iphones/ipads. WebOS is defunct. Why not use great ideas from a dead OS?

I'm not opposed to it, nor am I opposed to taking ideas from relevant/current systems. They all do it. My response to the other poster was to show his hypocrisy. He stated how Apple stole Notifications from Android, but Android already had the idea for a new feature in JB, when it was clearly taken from WebOS. Meaning, it's okay for Android to do it, but not for Apple.

To be honest, I could care less who takes what. I want a solid system, on a decent phone, with a good battery. If you use the same, great. If not, good for you. Use what you like/want.
 

blairh

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Dec 11, 2007
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Jelly Bean looks excellent but I still contend that the SIII screen sucks compared to the iPhone 4/4S and One X. LG might be bringing some IPS panel Android devices with ICS and LTE this fall. That and the next iPhone are what I'm anticipating.

Let me save the people who want to reply that the iPhone screen is too small. Yes, I know.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
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Las Vegas, NV
Im going today to get my GS3. Hopefully they have some in stock. Ill report back late if they do. I still havent handled one so the size is my only concern. The screen ...dont care about the bluish tint. Ive had a Vibrant (Galaxy S)for two years and the screen should actually be a huge upgrade regardless and both have the bluish tint.
The HTC One lineup screwed up by not having a Micro sd slot. I would also think the GS3 and read something on Pulse that Samsung is going to be more efficiant in getting out updates.
 
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iPhone4peace

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Oct 17, 2011
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I found this review helpful. I was going to buy one, but changed my mind. I felt the same way after spending some time with the store model. And I feel better about not getting it after reading this.

Just to add some much needed balance to this debate...

I bought an S3 at the end of May, and had it for 3 weeks. It's a really good phone, and the OS is fine once you get used to it.

But I did feel compelled to sell it at the weekend at get an iPhone again, and I have to say that I'm pleased to be back.

The iPhone OS is still a quicker and smoother experience than Android ICS in my opinion. Despite what many are saying in this thread, I actually found that I've been able to text a lot quicker than I could on the S3. This, I admit, is probably partly due to my familiarity with iOS.

What I found with the S3, was that there was slight lag with opening some apps, and the screen refresh rate with screens containing widgets was noticable. You never get that with iOS, though widgets are a useful addition to have.

The iPhone screen is the thing I'm most pleased to have again though. Whilst the S3 has a good screen in low light conditions, it's really bad outdoors. To the point that it's of no use in sunny conditions. I'm sure S3 fans will try to convince themselves otherwise, but on maximum brightness, the S3 screen is too dim when used outdoors. In contrast, the iPhone screen is bright, sharp and perfectly usable in the sun. I really wanted to like the S3, but the screen was a deal breaker for me.

I was also in two minds about whether it was too big in the end. The screen's a nice usable size for web browsing, playing games and watching videos, but I did feel a bit self conscious 'getting it out' in public, especially for making calls. It does take up a sizeable space in your trouser/jean pocket too. Would I prefer the iPhone to have a slightly larger display ? Yes, a slightly larger display would be good.

Don't get me wrong, I'd definitely recommend as S3 as a great phone. But in conclusion, I prefer the size, bright and sharp screen, apps choice and smoother OS of the iphone.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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Couldnt get one today. Now i have to wait til the 1st(Sunday) for it to be in stores but they had a demo. Not as big as i thought it was going to be but i dont like the blue at all. Looks more purple so white it is.
 

DodgeV83

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Feb 8, 2012
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I found this review helpful. I was going to buy one, but changed my mind. I felt the same way after spending some time with the store model. And I feel better about not getting it after reading this.

I was surprised about this too, I asked some friends what they thought of the S3 and they both resoundly said:

1. It's sluggish.

2. It's slow.

If that's true (and the post you quoted seems to confirm he experienced the same), that's truly a shame.
 

lilo777

macrumors 603
Nov 25, 2009
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What I found with the S3, was that there was slight lag with opening some apps

That's really hard to believe. Even SGS2 opened apps faster than iPhone 4S. Both SGS2 and SGS3 have faster CPUs and more RAM than iPhone 4S and this is what matters most as far as he speed of loading apps is concerned. I have not seen a single review claiming that S3 was slow to open apps.

and the screen refresh rate with screens containing widgets was noticable. You never get that with iOS, though widgets are a useful addition to have.

What do you mean that refresh rate was slow? Like it was blinking or something? Again, highly unlikely. Granted if you use live wallpaper and have a few active widgets this may cause some hiccups but you can easily fix it -just switch to "iPhone mode" (i.e. get rid of live wallpaper and some widgets).

The iPhone screen is the thing I'm most pleased to have again though. Whilst the S3 has a good screen in low light conditions, it's really bad outdoors. To the point that it's of no use in sunny conditions. I'm sure S3 fans will try to convince themselves otherwise, but on maximum brightness, the S3 screen is too dim when used outdoors. In contrast, the iPhone screen is bright, sharp and perfectly usable in the sun. I really wanted to like the S3, but the screen was a deal breaker for me.

There is more than brightness to how well the screen performs outdoors. Contrast and reflections are important. In fact, GSMArena concluded that SGSIII has the best screen for outdoor use:

Another area where the screens differ is sunlight legibility - the HTC One X is very good for an LCD and the excellent brightness contributes to that, but the non-reflectivity of the AMOLED screen gives the Samsung Galaxy S III the edge. In fact, the Galaxy S III emerges from our tests as the best outdoor performer we have seen to date.
 
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