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Sensamic

macrumors 68040
Mar 26, 2010
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Talking about updates.

iPhone 4 did not get Siri and will not get turn by turn navigation.

Android only gets one big update, but...

If you go with the ROMS way you can have ALL the new features from each big OS. So, for example, if I dont get Google Now I can install a custom ROM and I will have it.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
2 ways to get infected on android:
1. Malicious Apps
2. Malicious websites (rare)

Ways to avoid them?
Download "Lookout" for android and don't be a dumb ass.

Can you not do either of those?

True, ive never had a issue with security on mine and ive had it two years. I used Lookout for a month...this past month just to try it out.

There are comments on every app in the play store, read them and dont be stupid and you wont have a problem.

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Got my GS3 today.(White), didnt like the blue) So far i like it a lot but im still setting it up. Trying out Apex and Nova,(i was always using Launcher pro) getting things moved around. Its a process but i love the responsiveness.

I went with the value plan over my older plan on T-Mobile and im saving $50 a month on my bill with 5 lines. Now $126 a month. Two lines with data but if i add data to a line, it is only $10 a month.
Only have 2Gigs of data but i was only averaging under a gig per month so i didnt need to go with 5 gigs. But if i want to , it is $15 more per month. I dont like to stream music and why i wanted a micro card slot.

Got my Realook screen protector on the way from Amazon and a clear case back coming too.
 

Dunbar

macrumors 6502a
Jun 25, 2010
557
114
Los Angeles, CA
I demoed the S3 at a local Sprint store today for about 10 minutes. It feels amazing compared to my IP4 and should absolutely fly on Verizon's LTE network. Now I just have to wait another 1-1/2 weeks for Verizon to send me my pre-order :(
 

BaldiMac

macrumors G3
Jan 24, 2008
9,010
11,201
You buy a device for how it works when you buy it, not how it will work in the future. If you buy a phone with ICS, will it stop working when JB comes out? No, it won't. At least you get the FULL Android update with your phone. Its not like they leave key features out to force you into upgrading like Apple does. Thats the real ripoff. Besides, you can always root and install a custom ROM running the complete new version of Android if for some reason your carrier wasn't going to update you. An option you will never have with an iPhone...

The hypocrisy is strong with this statement. :D

Now I am not saying the Android Marketplace is safe and free from malware, like the app store has been, but it can be just as safe, if the user is educated enough to understqnd permissions.

How does being "educated enough to understand permissions" keep you safe? A malicious fart app can't steal my contacts, but a malicious contact organizer can. Unless the fart app claims to be "social", of course. Does that mean it's as safe as the App Store?
 

AQUADock

macrumors 65816
Mar 20, 2011
1,049
37
So you are cool with Apple leaving the biggest feature from ios5, Siri, off the iPhone 4? No reason AT ALL the iPhone 4 couldn't run it, Apple wants more of your money. Oh and lets not forget all the features from ios6 the iPhone 4 will never see :rolleyes: Like I said, at least with Android you get the FULL OS, not some half assed version missing the best features.
yes but you can jailbreak and get Siri, 3G Facetime, turn by turn navigation on an IPhone 4 just like if you put a custom ROM on a Android phone to get the latest OS.
 

sentinelsx

macrumors 68010
Feb 28, 2011
2,004
0
yes but you can jailbreak and get Siri, 3G Facetime, turn by turn navigation on an IPhone 4 just like if you put a custom ROM on a Android phone to get the latest OS.

That sort of makes the argument for software updates moot for both sides.
 

Lindenhurst

macrumors 6502a
Aug 24, 2011
612
0
So you think a quick update is 4+ months?

I purchased my ATT Galaxy Note in February with the "rumor" that ICS would be out by May. That did not and has not yet happened. Fortunately I am the type that will root and flash custom ROMs and I have been running ICS for almost 2 months now. Does it piss me off that Att will sell a Samsung phone with ICS even though my ATT device does not have it yet? Sure it does, but I knew that going in, and from what I read, it is not because of a delay by Samsung, but because of a delay by ATT. Who knows for sure.
With that said, I still believe that Android is an excellent operating system and by it's nature, it is more for those a bit "techie" in nature than those who just want to turn it on and use it.

Would I buy the Note again knowing the ICS delay would take place......?
Sure I would. I bought it based on how it operated when I bought it and not for how it would operate with the next update.
Do I feel like my Note is outdated with the release of SGS3? Not at all. I bought the note for the bigger screen and after looking at the GS3, I still prefer the Note. I may even consider the Note2 if the rumors are true.
Not pushing Android over IOS, but simply stating that there are choices that work other than IOS.

Also, I like Android so much that I actually ordered a Google Nexus 7 tablet. Yes we have iPads in my home and my kids love them, but I wanted a smaller device suited better for 1 handed use, and a bit smaller to take with me.
Guess I just like gadgets.
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
737
0
I purchased my ATT Galaxy Note in February with the "rumor" that ICS would be out by May. That did not and has not yet happened. Fortunately I am the type that will root and flash custom ROMs and I have been running ICS for almost 2 months now. Does it piss me off that Att will sell a Samsung phone with ICS even though my ATT device does not have it yet? Sure it does, but I knew that going in, and from what I read, it is not because of a delay by Samsung, but because of a delay by ATT. Who knows for sure.
With that said, I still believe that Android is an excellent operating system and by it's nature, it is more for those a bit "techie" in nature than those who just want to turn it on and use it.

Would I buy the Note again knowing the ICS delay would take place......?
Sure I would. I bought it based on how it operated when I bought it and not for how it would operate with the next update.
Do I feel like my Note is outdated with the release of SGS3? Not at all. I bought the note for the bigger screen and after looking at the GS3, I still prefer the Note. I may even consider the Note2 if the rumors are true.
Not pushing Android over IOS, but simply stating that there are choices that work other than IOS.

Also, I like Android so much that I actually ordered a Google Nexus 7 tablet. Yes we have iPads in my home and my kids love them, but I wanted a smaller device suited better for 1 handed use, and a bit smaller to take with me.
Guess I just like gadgets.

Yep, most people who buy Android phones have NO clue what GB, ICS and JB are and really don't care. They buy the phone for what it is and what it can do, not what version of Android its running and when its getting updated. We enthusiasts who obsess over these things are a VERY small number overall.
 

BaldiMac

macrumors G3
Jan 24, 2008
9,010
11,201
Yep, most people who buy Android phones have NO clue what GB, ICS and JB are and really don't care. They buy the phone for what it is and what it can do, not what version of Android its running and when its getting updated. We enthusiasts who obsess over these things are a VERY small number overall.

:rolleyes: And yet Apple not updating older phones with features such as Siri is the "real ripoff".
 

BrerSam

macrumors member
Jul 8, 2010
39
0
Help me decide!

I have both an unlocked iPhone 4s and a Unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3, i currently live in the UK but in 2 weeks im moving to the USA for 1 year to work at WDW in Florida,

Basically i can't decide what to do, i love both the phones for different reasons,

I love the screen size and customisation of the GS3 as well as i use Gmail as my mine email so thats kinda handy, i don't like how the notifcations for FB and Twitter do not come instantly like the 4S, and i like having a back button, its pebble blue, both phones are only 2 weeks old as well.

The iPhone i have alot of apps i have bought since ive had every phone since the 3G, and am used too it, the small screen kinda sucks after using the GS3, i had the iPhone 4 before and it feels similar, i've not had time yet but i will always keep which one i choose on me and use the camera and things alot instead of always carrying a camera.

I also have a Macbook Pro so it will be good with iMessage and things coming, basically i am pretty sure if its good i will sell which one i keep and go for the iPhone 5 when it comes out but in the mean time, which one should i sell out of these two phones and which should i use when im in the USA until that time?

Im tempted to put the money towards an iPad as it would be useful to use around the apartment and on the bus to work etc.

I've used both and like them both and can't decided which would be the best thing to do, any opinions on this ?
 

Lindenhurst

macrumors 6502a
Aug 24, 2011
612
0
:rolleyes: And yet Apple not updating older phones with features such as Siri is the "real ripoff".

Well...I had an IP4 and would have liked siri on it, but I honestly didn't feel like I got ripped off when it wasn't available. When someone got it working on a jailbroken iPhone, many were mad because the hardware was obviously sufficient to run the device, but I hope most people realize that the newer device will always have some features that aren't "available" on the older device. There has to be an incentive to upgrade phones!
I agree that the views of the majority of the forum members aren't really the same as the views of the general public when it comes to expectations of their devices.
Most people look at a phone, play with it a bit, and then either buy it or not. Not at all like many on these forums who research everything there is to know about a device, and actually consider what future devices will come out within the coming months. I have friends with Android and iPhones, and most of them have no clue as to what jail breaking or rooting is, and most do not know what other devices come out after they buy their phones because they simply do not bother to look until their next upgrade is near.
Sometimes I think they are better off because they don't feel like they are missing something every time a newer device comes out.

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Help me decide!

I have both an unlocked iPhone 4s and a Unlocked Samsung Galaxy S3, i currently live in the UK but in 2 weeks im moving to the USA for 1 year to work at WDW in Florida,

Basically i can't decide what to do, i love both the phones for different reasons,

I love the screen size and customisation of the GS3 as well as i use Gmail as my mine email so thats kinda handy, i don't like how the notifcations for FB and Twitter do not come instantly like the 4S, and i like having a back button, its pebble blue, both phones are only 2 weeks old as well.

The iPhone i have alot of apps i have bought since ive had every phone since the 3G, and am used too it, the small screen kinda sucks after using the GS3, i had the iPhone 4 before and it feels similar, i've not had time yet but i will always keep which one i choose on me and use the camera and things alot instead of always carrying a camera.

I also have a Macbook Pro so it will be good with iMessage and things coming, basically i am pretty sure if its good i will sell which one i keep and go for the iPhone 5 when it comes out but in the mean time, which one should i sell out of these two phones and which should i use when im in the USA until that time?

Im tempted to put the money towards an iPad as it would be useful to use around the apartment and on the bus to work etc.

I've used both and like them both and can't decided which would be the best thing to do, any opinions on this ?

I surely hope you don't base your decisions on what people on this forum will advise you to do. Do what you feel is best for you.
 

BrerSam

macrumors member
Jul 8, 2010
39
0
I can't decide either way so just wanted to know what other people thought,

IE which would be best for resale, to use in the USA etc
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
OK, first day today with a fully charged GS3.

Let me start by saying my location for my work right now, it is 4 miles into nowhere off the Interstate on the Ca side of the Ca-NV border and getting a good signal there isnt easy. When i go into a buiding, i get virtually no signal. With my Vibrant, i had to put it in airplane mode for a good portion of the day or it would drain real fast and by the end of the work day, it would be dead, if not before.

Today with the GS3, i did not put it in airplane mode once. Left it on, and i cant take it out of 4G. There is no option for that so i left everything alone and it just went to Edge when the signal wasnt good. Saw a 4G signal at times, but it was rare.

I turned it on around 4:15 am and when i got home at 4:30 pm, i had 58% left on the battery. IMO, that is just AWESOME!!! So in a normal environment, im sure the battery is going to be very good :)
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
6,753
4,927
The AMOLED GS3 screen is for sure much dimmer than the iPhone 4S screen.

This is the iPhone 4S maxed out brightness, and the GS3 with general settings and browser brightness settings set to maximum. I had a two different GS2's so I know all about the browser brightness setting.

It's hard to tell from the photo, which was taken with a GNEX, but the 4S offers better image quality and sharper text as well.

 

soulreaver99

macrumors 68040
Aug 15, 2010
3,710
6,424
Southern California
How come not many people mention the HTC One X? It has good reviews from Engadget, The Verge, etc... Galaxy S3's screen and cheap plastic build doesn't even compare. Touch Wiz interface is horrible and yes Samsung does add a lot of interesting software to the phone but it's useless and performs poorly like S voice.

Galaxy S3 however does have a better camera than the One X, but not better than the iPhone 4S. If camera is that important, I'd rather stick with the iPhone 4S. Most people's needs on a Smartphone are, text, social apps, internet, phone, camera and email. The iPhone 4S, although not so flashy with a boring OS, still does these well. For the best Android experience, I'd go for the One X after owning all 3 of these phones.

/thread
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
737
0
The AMOLED GS3 screen is for sure much dimmer than the iPhone 4S screen.

This is the iPhone 4S maxed out brightness, and the GS3 with general settings and browser brightness settings set to maximum. I had a two different GS2's so I know all about the browser brightness setting.

It's hard to tell from the photo, which was taken with a GNEX, but the 4S offers better image quality and sharper text as well.

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Awwww, look at the baby iPhone, its so small and cute, perfect for teenaged girls! The S3 screen is awesome in person and I will take all that extra screen real estate over that God awful pathetically tiny screen any day.
 

Technarchy

macrumors 604
May 21, 2012
6,753
4,927
Awwww, look at the baby iPhone, its so small and cute, perfect for teenaged girls! The S3 screen is awesome in person and I will take all that extra screen real estate over that God awful pathetically tiny screen any day.

Teenage girls? How trite.

If you think your phone makes you masculine, I have a nice job in afghanistan for you to see what kind of man you really are. I'll give you the number to my unit's recruiter. If you can make it through the two years of training you'll get $50,000.

So what do you say tough guy. Or does that phone make you manly enough...
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
737
0
Teenage girls? How trite.

If you think your phone makes you masculine, I have a nice job in afghanistan for you to see what kind of man you really are. I'll give you the number to my unit's recruiter. If you can make it through the two years of training you'll get $50,000.

So what do you say tough guy. Or does that phone make you manly enough...

LOL, settle down Francis
 

pmau

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2010
1,569
854
I'm now the owner of an iPhone 4 and a Samsung Galaxy S3.
I could write a really long message, I like both but stay mainly on iOS.

A few things I want to say:

I like the SG3 screen, it's not so big as I thought.
The iPhone display is still better (sharper) in my opinion.

The casing feels cheap, BUT they did something good to the back cover.
It doesn't slip, it kind of sticks to your hand. Feels a lot safer to hold.

I hate the buttons of the SG3, especially the touch navigation at the bottom.

Android is really fast, I mean it. But I still mainly stay on iOS.

If you don't do Google, Syncing, Mail and Calendar is a mess.
If you go the Google way, it's fine.

File transfer reminds me of old DOS days, one directory here, one other there.
Everything tends to get messy-

Apps are available, but GOOD Apps are hard to find, lots of crap on Android.
I'm sure that I'm biased here, but regarding Apps iOS wins.

I mainly searched Apps I already use on iOS. Maybe someone knows a Android "killer app" that amazes me ...

Battery seems better than on iOS, but my iPhone is 2 years old.

I cannot say that the on-screen keyboard of Android is really easier, but the suggestions do work better.

Some things are easier to switch on Android but the overall navigation seems unintuitive to me.

I like Chrome a lot, it's better than Safari.
I don't like Mail and SMS messaging on Android.

Google should "invent" iTunes for Android to manage content in a centralized way. iTunes is hell, but copying to and from SD cards is really worse.

I'm not a fanboy and will use both devices.
 

Vegastouch

macrumors 603
Jul 12, 2008
6,185
992
Las Vegas, NV
I'm now the owner of an iPhone 4 and a Samsung Galaxy S3.
I could write a really long message, I like both but stay mainly on iOS.

A few things I want to say:

I like the SG3 screen, it's not so big as I thought.
The iPhone display is still better (sharper) in my opinion.

The casing feels cheap, BUT they did something good to the back cover.
It doesn't slip, it kind of sticks to your hand. Feels a lot safer to hold.

I hate the buttons of the SG3, especially the touch navigation at the bottom.

Android is really fast, I mean it. But I still mainly stay on iOS.

If you don't do Google, Syncing, Mail and Calendar is a mess.
If you go the Google way, it's fine.

File transfer reminds me of old DOS days, one directory here, one other there.
Everything tends to get messy-

Apps are available, but GOOD Apps are hard to find, lots of crap on Android.
I'm sure that I'm biased here, but regarding Apps iOS wins.

I mainly searched Apps I already use on iOS. Maybe someone knows a Android "killer app" that amazes me ...

Battery seems better than on iOS, but my iPhone is 2 years old.

I cannot say that the on-screen keyboard of Android is really easier, but the suggestions do work better.

Some things are easier to switch on Android but the overall navigation seems unintuitive to me.

I like Chrome a lot, it's better than Safari.
I don't like Mail and SMS messaging on Android.

Google should "invent" iTunes for Android to manage content in a centralized way. iTunes is hell, but copying to and from SD cards is really worse.

I'm not a fanboy and will use both devices.
Wow, well all i have to say is you need to get used to Android and you can't do that easily by always going back to your iPhone because all those are such non issues and there are several keyboards you can download. Getting music on it is easy. ITunes Imo, sucks.
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
Google should "invent" iTunes for Android to manage content in a centralized way. iTunes is hell, but copying to and from SD cards is really worse.

I'm not a fanboy and will use both devices.

Why would you be copying to and from sd cards? Why wouldn't you just plug the phone into the pc or mac? From what I know of Android, when you plug the phone into the pc via usb, it acts just like an external drive. Is this incorrect?
 

pmau

macrumors 68000
Nov 9, 2010
1,569
854
Why would you be copying to and from sd cards? Why wouldn't you just plug the phone into the pc or mac? From what I know of Android, when you plug the phone into the pc via usb, it acts just like an external drive. Is this incorrect?

Yes, for the Samsung Galaxy S3 this does no longer work ...
And I'm not joking, just stating a fact.
 

Mac.World

macrumors 68000
Jan 9, 2011
1,819
1
In front of uranus
Yes, for the Samsung Galaxy S3 this does no longer work ...
And I'm not joking, just stating a fact.

Hang on. I read up on the S3 and this is a main feature (USB connections). There was a video of this I remember seeing at one point.

Just looked this up cause it was bothering me. This is what the Samsung site says:
You may want to connect your Samsung Galaxy S3 to your PC if you want to transfer videos or music between the devices. Use these steps to get started.

1. Windows users should download and install the USB drivers for the Galaxy S3. Mac users do not need to install any software.

2. Connect the device to an available USB port using the included USB cable.

3. A prompt will appear on the screen of the phone. Drag the notification area down, then make a selection based on what you wish to do with the device.

Connected as media Device > Media device (MTP) – Use this selection if you wish to use Windows Explorer or the Mac Finder to manually transfer files between the PC and the phone or to utilize Windows Media Player.
Connected as a media device > Camera (PTP) – To use your phone as a camera.

So is this correct. I mean, I can connect the iPhone to my Mac and transfer files via iTunes, but it would be nice to just plug the phone into any computer and have it act like a usb drive and transfer files to wheree ever you want.

Anyway, the S3 has got my interest. Gonna look into it further.
 
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