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[Mac.World]

I don't recall using iTunes being difficult either. I purchased 4 new songs via iTunes over the weekend. Bought them with my MBP [it was raining, and I was bored]. With a minute I had them on my phone, and the iMac in the den. It was pretty difficult; well, you know...the 2 minutes wait

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Kind of like iTunes does right now as well?

Exactly this. iDevices, ATV's and Macs can share downloaded music and Video seemlessly and wirelessly with one another.

I think Android can do some of this but the ecosystem isn't completely established, yet. I.e. some Android phones can work wirelessly with some audio/video components or select TV's, but most can not. Samsung is on its way to establishing its very own ecosystem, like Apple. This is the only company out there that seems to be working towards that goal. I would add M$ to that, but monkey boy Steve Ballmer is to much of a clown to get anything done right. Love how he just pissed off all his hardware suppliers with the Surface tablet. HP just gave him the big 'F#@k You' lol

 

[nefan65]

Exactly this. iDevices, ATV's and Macs can share downloaded music and Video seemlessly and wirelessly with one another.

I think Android can do some of this but the ecosystem isn't completely established, yet. I.e. some Android phones can work wirelessly with some audio/video components or select TV's, but most can not. Samsung is on its way to establishing its very own ecosystem, like Apple. This is the only company out there that seems to be working towards that goal. I would add M$ to that, but monkey boy Steve Ballmer is to much of a clown to get anything done right. Love how he just pissed off all his hardware suppliers with the Surface tablet. HP just gave him the big 'F#@k You' lol

Exactly. It's one of the main reasons I've stayed with iPhone. I have all Macs anyway, so it made sense from this standpoint. That isn't to say others can't do it, or won't do it. It works for me, and that's all I really care about...

Ya, I have a hard time believing MS can do anything right with SB at the helm. He's had more misses than hits.

It's funny to see how other companies are moving to the Apple model more/more though. 6 months ago Apple, and those that used their products were chastised for the "Apple everything" mantra. Now Samsung, and MS are following. Samsung with all the integrated items you mentioned, and MS. MS also lowering the upgrade price for Win 8 [ala OS X Lion/ML].

In the end, we the consumer will hopefully win...!

 

[Sensamic]

The problem with iTunes is that it takes 2 minutes to sync only one change, because it goes through any other changes (you can see that on the top bar).

On Android it takes 5 seconds to make than single change.

Many times I only add one song or app, and iTunes used to take 2 minutes to sync everything (and make the new backup). That was a little bit annoying. Also adding pictures on iTunes is IMPOSSIBLE. You cannot add different folders and subfolders. It only allows you to sync a specific folder or all your folders. Its so stupid that I don't know why Apple has fixed that already.

Now on my SGS3 I have different folders and subfolders, just like I wanted.

 

[redred]

Android should create an iTunes-like software that is compatible with all their devices. All my friends with Android's use DoubleTwist.

 

[cynics]

Ignore 'mbell1975' he is a fAndroid tool. (See post history.)

The number one complaint of Android user is trying to figure out how to get all their "stuff" synced to the device. Whether you like (or prefer) iTunes or not is irrelevant, the vast majority are quite happy with it.

I have mentioned this although I've noticed it. But actually look at his past post, WAY back. You'll find he would vigorously defend the iPhone as much as he defends android now.

As a owner of both I defend both depending on the forum I'm on.

 

[BaldiMac]

The problem with iTunes is that it takes 2 minutes to sync only one change, because it goes through any other changes (you can see that on the top bar).

Not really. If the only change is one song, an iTunes Wifi Sync takes less than 30 seconds. But I hardly ever manually start a sync. It just happens overnight when my iPhone is charging.

On Android it takes 5 seconds to make than single change.

If you don't count the time it takes to attach the device/card, locate the song, drag/drop and detach the device/card.

Many times I only add one song or app, and iTunes used to take 2 minutes to sync everything (and make the new backup). That was a little bit annoying.

iCloud Backup replaces local iTunes backup and cuts down on sync time.

Also adding pictures on iTunes is IMPOSSIBLE. You cannot add different folders and subfolders. It only allows you to sync a specific folder or all your folders. Its so stupid that I don't know why Apple has fixed that already.

IMPOSSIBLE? Select folder. All pictures in that folder and its subfolders sync. Subfolders appear on your iPhone as albums.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4236

Need a more organized solution? Use iPhoto/Aperture on a Mac. Photoshop Album or Photoshop Elements on Windows.

 

[Sensamic]

Not really. If the only change is one song, an iTunes Wifi Sync takes less than 30 seconds.



If you don't count the time it takes to attach the device/card, locate the song, drag/drop and detach the device/card.



iCloud Backup replaces local iTunes backup and cuts down on sync time.



IMPOSSIBLE? Select folder. All pictures in that folder and its subfolders sync. Subfolders appear on your iPhone as albums.
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4236

Need a more organized solution? Use iPhoto/Aperture on a Mac. Photoshop Album or Photoshop Elements on Windows.

Ive had the iPhone 4 for 2 years and I never saw the subfolders appear as albums on the photos app. Yes, the pictures do copy, but they are all mixed up inside the general folder, so its kind of a mess if you have 10 subfolders like me. I have a big photo library very nicely organized

On the pictures tab in iTunes it would only allow me to select a specific folder or ALL my pictures. I could not select two subfolders located in different folders, for example. Its not possible.

And lets not talk about the cache iPhone photo folder on your Mac... If I wanted to add 2000 pictures I had to wait for each of those 2000 pictures to adapt for the iPhone!

I never tried wifi sync cause I don't trust it that much, much less iCloud backup, which could take ages with my 32GB data on the phone.

iTunes is nice for somethings (backups), but for others is worthless.

I really appreciate what Apple, iPhone and iOS have done for the mobile world. Before them all phones were ****. Im talking about all my Nokias and Samsungs... Since iOS and iPhone I think every manufacturer has started doing things a lot better to gain more sales and stuff.

 

[BaldiMac]

Ive had the iPhone 4 for 2 years and I never saw the subfolders appear as albums on the photos app. Yes, the pictures do copy, but they are all mixed up inside the general folder, so its kind of a mess if you have 10 subfolders like me. I have a big photo library very nicely organized

If it's not working correctly, contact support!

On the pictures tab in iTunes it would only allow me to select a specific folder or ALL my pictures. I could not select two subfolders located in different folders, for example. Its not possible.

Yep.

And lets not talk about the cache iPhone photo folder on your Mac... If I wanted to add 2000 pictures I had to wait for each of those 2000 pictures to adapt for the iPhone!

Yep. For me it doesn't matter since the sync happens overnight.

I never tried wifi sync cause I don't trust it that much,

Not sure what's not to trust.

much less iCloud backup, which could take ages with my 32GB data on the phone.

Media isn't backed up (except for your camera roll), so the backup size is much smaller. And it happens automatically when your phone is plugged in and on wifi. I've never noticed it happening.

iTunes is nice for somethings (backups), but for others is worthless.

It may not work how you want it to, but that doesn't make it worthless.

I really appreciate what Apple, iPhone and iOS have done for the mobile world. Before them all phones were ****. Im talking about all my Nokias and Samsungs... Since iOS and iPhone I think every manufacturer has started doing things a lot better to gain more sales and stuff.

Yep.

 

[mbell1975]

I'm not sure how selecting and dragging/dropping music takes "much less time" than hitting one button to sync wirelessly or simply plugging the iPhone in and doing nothing else.

And you don't have to be tied to iTunes at all.

As was mentioned, syncing large amounts of music take up time. Someone said 35-45 minutes for 20GBs. You know how long it takes me to drop 20GBs of music on to my Android phone? WAY less than that, less than 10. As someone else mentioned, iTunes goes thru and checks all your settings and updates/backs up everything even if you just want to sync a few things, its annoying.

You don't have to be tied to iTunes? Really? Mind telling me how you can get music and movies from your computer on your iPhone without syncing them thru iTunes? Having to convert a movie to MOV or MP4 files so you can drop them into your iTunes and then sync them to your phone is also a ridiculous pain in the ass. Drag and drop any file to my SD card to play on my Android phone, so much more simple and far less time consuming.

 

[bigsexyy81]

Cool. I can plug my phone into my computer and drag and drop any music file on to my phones SD card in much less time than that. Better yet, I can open up Motocast and stream any song or movie on my iTunes without ever having to download it and take up space You buy everything thru iTunes, you are forced to with iPhone. Many people don't want to be tied to iTunes for everything.

Dragging and dropping song after song is faster than one click?

And downloading iTunes and the amount of space it takes on a hard drive is completely negligible in the grand scheme of things.

 

[Mac.World]

As was mentioned, syncing large amounts of music take up time. Someone said 35-45 minutes for 20GBs. You know how long it takes me to drop 20GBs of music on to my Android phone? WAY less than that, less than 10. As someone else mentioned, iTunes goes thru and checks all your settings and updates/backs up everything even if you just want to sync a few things, its annoying.

You don't have to be tied to iTunes? Really? Mind telling me how you can get music and movies from your computer on your iPhone without syncing them thru iTunes? Having to convert a movie to MOV or MP4 files so you can drop them into your iTunes and then sync them to your phone is also a ridiculous pain in the ass. Drag and drop any file to my SD card to play on my Android phone, so much more simple and far less time consuming.

Gonna look like I'm flip flopping, but I will point out incorrect data if I see it.

When it comes to iTunes, you can set it up so it doesn't do all that back up crap and only downloads what you want it to. Additionally, iDevices can play any type of video format, just not with the built in vid player. You need to download an app like AVPlayerHD. And with a vid player like this, you just open itunes, select apps tab and then click on it. You can now drag and drop any video from the pc directly onto the ipad. Speed is about as fast as a 10x sdhc card. If you have a slower sd card, itunes will move large files quicker. I do this all the time with my iPad.

This is just as easy as Android, but the main advantage for Android, as you said, is you aren't tied to iTunes.

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Dragging and dropping song after song is faster than one click?

And downloading iTunes and the amount of space it takes on a hard drive is completely negligible in the grand scheme of things.

No one will drag and drop one file at a time, especially if you have quite a few media files to move. It looks like you are posting stuff like that just to try and create an arguement.

 

[404 tech junkie]

If you don't count the time it takes to attach the device/card, locate the song, drag/drop and detach the device/card.

Ok, well how about this...I don't sync at all and all of my files are backed up to the cloud via dropbox. I can set it to do it only when I'm connected wifi or use the mobile network if I'd like. So I can have all my pictures, songs, documents, etc backed up from anywhere (I don't have to be on wifi) to the cloud. Conversely, if I need to pull the data down to my phone, I can access it from anywhere. Doesn't get any easier or faster than that.
For the record, I don't feel the need to sync my phone to a computer, and quite frankly I feel Apple goes overboard with their insistence that you sync your phone. For example, if I want to create a ringtone out of a song that is currently not on my phone...In order for me to trim it and be able to use it as a ringtone, I'd have to sync my phone. In other words, I have to wait until I get home just to be able to make a ringtone, all because Apple insists on me syncing my phone. On Android, you simply download the song, trim it, and set it as your ringtone. Simple as that.

 

[Wrathwitch]

The problem with iTunes is that it takes 2 minutes to sync only one change, because it goes through any other changes (you can see that on the top bar).

On Android it takes 5 seconds to make than single change.

Many times I only add one song or app, and iTunes used to take 2 minutes to sync everything (and make the new backup). That was a little bit annoying. Also adding pictures on iTunes is IMPOSSIBLE. You cannot add different folders and subfolders. It only allows you to sync a specific folder or all your folders. Its so stupid that I don't know why Apple has fixed that already.

Now on my SGS3 I have different folders and subfolders, just like I wanted.

Yes but I would LOVE any sort of software for the SSGS3 that can back up the entirety of my apps and music. If you know of one, pls let me know (non rooted please).

 

[hot spare]

Yes but I would LOVE any sort of software for the SSGS3 that can back up the entirety of my apps and music. If you know of one, pls let me know (non rooted please).

Samsung Kies should do.

 

[Wrathwitch]

Samsung Kies should do.

If I had balls I could say that Kies sucks my balls, but ... well it SUCKS!

 

[Technarchy]

If I had balls I could say that Kies sucks my balls, but ... well it SUCKS!

Well I have balls and I wouldnt let Kies near them.

It really is horrible ass end software. Especially compared to iTunes, even on Windows.

 

[Wrathwitch]

Well I have balls and I wouldnt let Kies near them.

It really is horrible ass end software. Especially compared to iTunes, even on Windows.

LOL! Indeed it is, when I DL it on my iMac I was like WTF!?! This is it??? At best I have used it to transfer some songs until I discoverd isync.....

 

[Mac.World]

Yes but I would LOVE any sort of software for the SSGS3 that can back up the entirety of my apps and music. If you know of one, pls let me know (non rooted please).

Apps are auto-synced with your google account. No need to back up on the pjone.

Media files should be saved on the sd card.

Then these is appmonster for m@non-root and titanium pro for rooted.


Don't quote me on thisstuff. It's what I was able to find on google search. I may be completely wrong.

 

[Shockwave78]

Apps are auto-synced with your google account. No need to back up on the pjone.

Media files should be saved on the sd card.

Then these is appmonster for m@non-root and titanium pro for rooted.


Don't quote me on thisstuff. It's what I was able to find on google search. I may be completely wrong.

That was HUGE when i was using a Galaxy Nexus for about 4 months before i went back to the Iphone 4s(Android was not the reasoning for return)

From the minute i signed into my phone with google after activating I had all my photos, notes, apps and everything i ever put on google. It was unreal and puts the icloud to shame. All you do is login and your done, absolutely nothing else to do.

 

[BaldiMac]

As was mentioned, syncing large amounts of music take up time. Someone said 35-45 minutes for 20GBs. You know how long it takes me to drop 20GBs of music on to my Android phone? WAY less than that, less than 10. As someone else mentioned, iTunes goes thru and checks all your settings and updates/backs up everything even if you just want to sync a few things, its annoying.

Again, you can backup through iCloud if you don't want the additional delay. I wasn't aware that iTunes transfers songs at a significantly slower speed than USB2. As I said, for me, syncing happens overnight without any user interaction. Nothing annoying about it.

You don't have to be tied to iTunes? Really? Mind telling me how you can get music and movies from your computer on your iPhone without syncing them thru iTunes?

iTunes in the Cloud? Amazon Cloud?

Ok, well how about this...I don't sync at all and all of my files are backed up to the cloud via dropbox. I can set it to do it only when I'm connected wifi or use the mobile network if I'd like. So I can have all my pictures, songs, documents, etc backed up from anywhere (I don't have to be on wifi) to the cloud. Conversely, if I need to pull the data down to my phone, I can access it from anywhere. Doesn't get any easier or faster than that.

I'm not sure what the distinction is between "syncing" and "backing up to Dropbox" in this context. And I don't see anything in this list that can't be accomplished on the iPhone. Sometimes easier.

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That was HUGE when i was using a Galaxy Nexus for about 4 months before i went back to the Iphone 4s(Android was not the reasoning for return)

From the minute i signed into my phone with google after activating I had all my photos, notes, apps and everything i ever put on google. It was unreal and puts the icloud to shame. All you do is login and your done, absolutely nothing else to do.

How is this different than iCloud? Serious question.

 

[Mac.World]

Again, you can backup through iCloud if you don't want the additional delay. I wasn't aware that iTunes transfers songs at a significantly slower speed than USB2. As I said, for me, syncing happens overnight without any user interaction. Nothing annoying about it.


How is this different than iCloud? Serious question.

Usb2 and the Apple dock connector cable are one in the same. Speed is the same.
But, like you, I have my backups and syncing with itunes done at night while i sleep. Too easy. Although, my pics auto sync to dropbox and surgarsync as soon as i take them.

And Google is different from iCloud in that more programs and apps are syncable, plus all computers and most smartphone brands can sync with it. It's simply more expansive and doesn't restrict you to just Apple phones... But the process is identical. I use Google as well to sync my gmail, calendar and g drive, since I can access these at my work computer.

 

[BaldiMac]

Usb2 and the Apple dock connector cable are one in the same. Speed is the same.

That's what I thought. mbell1975 claims that iTunes transfers data slower than a regular USB2 transfer.

And Google is different from iCloud in that more programs and apps are syncable, plus all computers and most smartphone brands can sync with it. It's simply more expansive and doesn't restrict you to just Apple phones... But the process is identical. I use Google as well to sync my gmail, calendar and g drive, since I can access these at my work computer.

I was asking about setup of a new iPhone from an iCloud backup vs setup of an Android phone after moving from a previous Android phone.

 

[Technarchy]

I was asking about setup of a new iPhone from an iCloud backup vs setup of an Android phone after moving from a previous Android phone.

The same essentially. Though from what I recall about android, if you get new phone, your apps don't automatically return.

When I went from Sprint to AT&T I remember having to manually download apps. Contacts, emails, music were a no brainer.

 

[kevinof]

Nope they do. Just went from SG2 to to SG3 and all my apps re-installed automatically once I added my google account.

The same essentially. Though from what I recall about android, if you get new phone, your apps don't automatically return.

When I went from Sprint to AT&T I remember having to manually download apps. Contacts, emails, music were a no brainer.

 

[Technarchy]

Nope they do. Just went from SG2 to to SG3 and all my apps re-installed automatically once I added my google account.

When I got my Nexus S replaced due to a faulty radio the apps came back no problem. When I went GS2 they did not. Weird.