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Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
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Seriously, troll harder.

Obvious you've never even had a S3. So stop pretending you had one and stop making up these fairy tale stories of how the S3 is garbage compared to an ipad1.

It's obvious you're full of it because well, what do you know? I have an S3 and ipad1 right in front of me.

My S3 has never crashed in any web browser, let alone any app so far. My ipad1 on the other hand, crashes all the time when using Safari. You know why it crashes? Because of the measly 256mb of ram compared to 2gb's on the S3, so now you're just making crap up.

Your lying and blind fanboyism is showing.

Am I now? My ipad is on iOS 5.1 and Safari never crashes unless I have alot of tabs open which i never do, and first off i never claimed the S3 was garbage so stop making things up all i am doing is just comparing and telling you what I experience on a day to day basis. My Verizon Galaxy S3 is running Android 4.04, the lAtest software I can get, All my apps are updated on a daily basis and I regularily restart my phone... So now what am i making up again?
 

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Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
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It's always funny how android users try to claim that their jellybean (ew.) is somehow on par with iOS in smoothness; I've used several devices running JB, and it still doesn't feel responsive enough for me.

iPhone may have some 'catching-up' to do in the customization part, but its fundamental functions are still way ahead of android. (at the very least, it doesnt take 5 iterations of OS updates to get a 'butter-smooth' experience that merely shoots up your CPU :rolleyes:)

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easy
Go to 'reader' mode in safari, change text size to whatever you prefer ;)

I actually feel the same exact way too, while Jelly Bean improves responsiveness and smoothness by alot, It still has that very slight delay, thats doesnt feel like its 100% precise but it is a big improvement over ICS i will say.
 

AppleFan91

macrumors 68000
Sep 11, 2012
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I had an SIII for a couple of weeks - great device, that being said, my BIGGEST complaint is simply the build quality of the phone. It honestly feels that it's a toy and not an expensive, well build device that it's price suggests
 

Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
1,860
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lol. Was wondering how long it would take for someone to criticize my overwhelming support of the iphone 5.

Only on this forum, I swear...

Nah dude thats exactly why I think iOS is better then Android is because of the reasons you listed... Im just saying

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Oh, I'll be simple with you: The ability to block text messages or calls from a specific phone number or how about being able to add multiple PDF attachments to an e-mail? Or how about split screen multi-tasking from the Samsung Galaxy Note 2 where you can open two apps side by side?


Yeah because having two apps open side by side would just be so great on a 4 inch screen, it would be so useful /sarcasm... Cant compare a smartphone to a phablet the features are going to be tailored to one and another...
 
Aug 4, 2012
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My feelings towards Apple

I've said it here before, I'm a HUGE Apple fan from back in the mid 80's and my SE30. Today I own a 15" MBP and an 11" MBA, I LOVE them!! Couldn't be without them. I have also owned every single iPhone made to date, every time an S version came out I updated. I have loved every iPhone up through the 4S, each one made great strides but also understand each version made less strides than the version before it.

I like millions was hoping the iPhone 5 would be the game changer...sadly it wasn't and blast me if you want but all Apple truly did was add LTE and half an inch to the screens length and called it a day. Apple has pissed off Samsung, pissed off Google and most importantly pissed off many of their die hard customers, I'm one of them.

Today smartphones are all about larger screens and great flexibility, and this is where Android based phones have progressed forward leaving Apple looking somewhat slow on the tech front.

I'll wait to see what Apple may or may not do a year from now but I'm not holding my breath, with the icon gone (SJ) I don't think anyone in Cupertino has the family jewels to make any great strides.

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I had an SIII for a couple of weeks - great device, that being said, my BIGGEST complaint is simply the build quality of the phone. It honestly feels that it's a toy and not an expensive, well build device that it's price suggests

I hear this all the time and I really don't understand it. I have the S3 and its rock solid on all fronts. Do I LOVE the device, NO, I wanted an iPhone 5 but not the one Apple brought us. FWIW, the Galaxy S3 was 100% flawless in build quality out of the box, first electronic device I've bought in maybe 15 years that was. Build quality is incredible on S3, is it soft aluminum, hell no.
 

swy05

macrumors 6502
Aug 9, 2008
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Am I now? My ipad is on iOS 5.1 and Safari never crashes unless I have alot of tabs open which i never do, and first off i never claimed the S3 was garbage so stop making things up all i am doing is just comparing and telling you what I experience on a day to day basis. My Verizon Galaxy S3 is running Android 4.04, the lAtest software I can get, All my apps are updated on a daily basis and I regularily restart my phone... So now what am i making up again?

You ever think you got a defective phone?

My s3 has never crashed one me. Not even once. Whether it be apps, msgs, web browser. My s2 on the other hand crashed frequently.

My ipad1 on the other hand, crashes all the damn time.
 

Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
1,860
2
I've said it here before, I'm a HUGE Apple fan from back in the mid 80's and my SE30. Today I own a 15" MBP and an 11" MBA, I LOVE them!! Couldn't be without them. I have also owned every single iPhone made to date, every time an S version came out I updated. I have loved every iPhone up through the 4S, each one made great strides but also understand each version made less strides than the version before it.

I like millions was hoping the iPhone 5 would be the game changer...sadly it wasn't and blast me if you want but all Apple truly did was add LTE and half an inch to the screens length and called it a day. Apple has pissed off Samsung, pissed off Google and most importantly pissed off many of their die hard customers, I'm one of them.

Today smartphones are all about larger screens and great flexibility, and this is where Android based phones have progressed forward leaving Apple looking somewhat slow on the tech front.

I'll wait to see what Apple may or may not do a year from now but I'm not holding my breath, with the icon gone (SJ) I don't think anyone in Cupertino has the family jewels to make any great strides.

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I hear this all the time and I really don't understand it. I have the S3 and its rock solid on all fronts. Do I LOVE the device, NO, I wanted an iPhone 5 but not the one Apple brought us. FWIW, the Galaxy S3 was 100% flawless in build quality out of the box, first electronic device I've bought in maybe 15 years that was. Build quality is incredible on S3, is it soft aluminum, hell no.

Im just curious, do you think a phone having a bigger screen mAkes a phone better or superior to others? Isnt it based on preference? Im sure if they made the iphone any bigger them 4.3 inches you would hear alot of people complaining
 
Aug 4, 2012
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Im just curious, do you think a phone having a bigger screen mAkes a phone better or superior to others? Isnt it based on preference? Im sure if they made the iphone any bigger them 4.3 inches you would hear alot of people complaining

The extra screen size makes things like email and web so much nicer, in fact everything is just better looking. Hey, their coming out with a smaller iPad to compliment the larger iPad, maybe in a year or so they will launch a 4.5" iPhone and still offer the 4" to those who like small phones.
 

psykick5

macrumors 6502
Sep 4, 2011
350
0
The UI is just an opinion, but the facts are the facts. The iOS maps system is now inferior by far, and the notification system is worse off than when they didn't have it (because Android's wasn't as good as it is now.)

Notifications is the weakest link in my mind. The Jelly Bean notification system is MILES beyond the archaic/dumb/tacked on system they have in iOS. They hardly made an effort to make it even decent. I would not hesitate to call it garbage. It needs not just an overhaul, it needs complete reworking with some EFFORT actually put in to make it decent.
 
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dmelgar

macrumors 68000
Original poster
Apr 29, 2005
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Today smartphones are all about larger screens and great flexibility, and this is where Android based phones have progressed forward leaving Apple looking somewhat slow on the tech front.
As a Macbook Air owner, you of all people should realize that its harder to make a small phone than a big phone. iPhone 5 is the first phone to use the latest power efficient LTE chip, has the fastest CPU etc. Lots of horsepower in a very small package.
Apple has specifically chosen to keep the size small. At first I agreed with you. Having had a 4.3" Android phone the iPhone seems small. I must admit the "Thumb" ad worked on me. Using the iPhone 5 I had forgotten what it was like to be able to comfortably use the phone with one hand. For all the 4.3" size, I've always found Android keyboard so hard to use I've given up over time. I vaguely remembered my iPhone 3G where i could type very very fast. It was a distant memory. But on the new iPhone 5 I can type fast again. The screen size works.
Maybe Apple will come out with more variety of sizes someday. But for now the iPhone 5 size seems pretty good.
 

SporkLover

macrumors 6502
Nov 8, 2011
498
1
I'm reading non-stop negative press on this board, in the news, media, everywhere. Not sure why.

There's a narative that says the iPhone 5 is not a big update. That its finally falling behind Android competition.

Yet this doesn't seem obvious to me, at least not now.

I left the iPhone/iOS back when I had an iPhone 3G. I went and bought an HTC Incredible. When I left, here are the advantages that Android had over iOS.
  1. Flash. Was a big selling point to view lots of apps. Suing Apple for saying you got the whole internet. Could watch flash video which was everywhere.
  2. Turn by turn navigation. Was huge benefit. No option on iOS, not even 3rd party apps at the time.
  3. Notifications. iOS didn't have the ability to queue them up. It was only an alert.
  4. Background tasks: Back then, iOS couldn't do any user programs in the background. No Pandora, no Skype, no VOIP, nothing.
  5. Voice recognition: Anywhere you could type you could use google's voice recognition.
  6. Web browser text resizing: This is the one feature I still like in Android. Text in the browser can be made arbitrarily bigger by zooming in. It reflows the column.
  7. LTE: I bought an HTC Thunderbolt early last year. The first of many LTE phones.
So here we are three years later, and NOW I hear that Apple has dropped the ball and fallen behind. Now?
  1. Flash: Adobe is no longer supporting nor shipping on new Android phones. The web is rapidly moving away from flash (thankfully).
  2. Turn by turn navigation: I love it, works well for me. Siri integration is awesome. Better than anything I could find on the phones I owned or even the S3 which I recently bought and tried.
  3. Notifications: iOS added it.
  4. Background tasks: iOS added it in a better more difficult way. Does not hurt battery life. Background tasks on Android are the reason for dismal battery life. Causes you to have to run juice defender, app killers etc.
  5. Voice recognition: Check, iOS added it. Siri I think is superior to anything I've seen in the Android world.
  6. Web browser text resize: iOS text still too small. That may be why folks don't like the iPhone 5. They don't want to admit they can't see the small text. If apple won't make a bigger screen phone, they need to allow bigger text.
  7. LTE: check, iPhone 5 adds it.

So from here, it looks like iOS is a much better choice now than it was 3 years ago. Yet all of a sudden folks are claiming that NOW iOS has fallen behind Android.

What am I missing?

Edit: Forgot another missing feature from 3 years ago. iPhone was only available on AT&T and AT&T coverage is poor at my home, so I wanted to get Verizon.

I do think the iPhone is starting to catch Android in functionality that's existed for a while. All the way from the first iPhone in 2007, the things that were left off or functionality left behind boggled my mind as even the Windows phone of the previous generation had them... (apps/mms/etc).

With just about all of the major functionalities of IOS, you can almost tag it existing in Android or other mobile OS for sometime already. When Siri launched, Google had voice search for awhile. Panorama for ios 5.... Yup android already had it.

But with all that said, Apple has pegged the consumer base and leads in other areas. As subjective as it might seem, Apple definitely leads in quality. Apple is better integrated vertically. iOS is finely tuned to the iPhone...... Sometimes on android it doesn't seem that the marriage of OS and handset are so harmonic. My Photon 4g made me want to scream with how it behaved sometimes. And customer service is Top notch with Apple. Try turning in your HTC flagship phone in for warranty work..... Just not the same.
 

Russiaone

macrumors 6502
Jun 7, 2010
430
159
ONLY Reason why I'm sticking with iPhone for now is because the app store has many more quality games than does the Google Play store. If I wanted the best phone, though, I'd jump ship post haste. PLUS, Android (especially stock Android) outclasses iOS like nobody's business.
 

mjpearce023

macrumors 6502a
Jul 10, 2012
785
566
They're totally different and aimed at a different demographic of people. Android is perfect for those who like to tinker and customize to their maximum potential. iOS on the other hand is made simple and easy to use by anyone.

I've heard that a lot and I've actually found the opposite to be true with the people I know. Most of my tech savvy friends have iPhones while the people who have android don't know that much about them. I only know one person who has loaded a custom rom on their android. I have found the larger screen is the main reason why most people I know got android. Most of them don't know anything about updates or jelly bean or ice cream sandwich. I'm not saying that iphone owners are not the same because i know a lot of iphone owners that know very little about their phone as well. I think on the whole only a small percentage of people who own smartphones are really all that tech savvy. This is just my opinion so I'm not stating anything as fact but this is just what I've found.
 

JS82712

macrumors 6502a
Jul 1, 2009
799
0
ONLY Reason why I'm sticking with iPhone for now is because the app store has many more quality games than does the Google Play store. If I wanted the best phone, though, I'd jump ship post haste. PLUS, Android (especially stock Android) outclasses iOS like nobody's business.

stock android outclasses iOS? my friend's galaxy nexus isn't living up to his expectations at all:
1. He's constantly installing beta ROM from developers just to find a build with less lag and better battery life
2. camera app applies some strange vibrant effect to the photos taken on the phone

...and other small things which i wont get into

Verdict? Stock android is certainly better than those hideously skinned androids, but stock android is always coupled with subpar nexus hardware, which, at the end of the day, ruins it.
 

urkel

macrumors 68030
Nov 3, 2008
2,795
917
IOS isn't falling behind, but considering their truly "revolutionary" start then they aren't as far ahead as they could be.
 

JS82712

macrumors 6502a
Jul 1, 2009
799
0
I've said it here before, I'm a HUGE Apple fan from back in the mid 80's and my SE30. Today I own a 15" MBP and an 11" MBA, I LOVE them!! Couldn't be without them. I have also owned every single iPhone made to date, every time an S version came out I updated. I have loved every iPhone up through the 4S, each one made great strides but also understand each version made less strides than the version before it.

I like millions was hoping the iPhone 5 would be the game changer...sadly it wasn't and blast me if you want but all Apple truly did was add LTE and half an inch to the screens length and called it a day. Apple has pissed off Samsung, pissed off Google and most importantly pissed off many of their die hard customers, I'm one of them.

Today smartphones are all about larger screens and great flexibility, and this is where Android based phones have progressed forward leaving Apple looking somewhat slow on the tech front.

I'll wait to see what Apple may or may not do a year from now but I'm not holding my breath, with the icon gone (SJ) I don't think anyone in Cupertino has the family jewels to make any great strides.

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I hear this all the time and I really don't understand it. I have the S3 and its rock solid on all fronts. Do I LOVE the device, NO, I wanted an iPhone 5 but not the one Apple brought us. FWIW, the Galaxy S3 was 100% flawless in build quality out of the box, first electronic device I've bought in maybe 15 years that was. Build quality is incredible on S3, is it soft aluminum, hell no.

sorry, that phone overheats and shuts down from playing 2 hours of fruit ninja, asphalt and doodle jump, just horrible.

I bet you love your 'hyperglazed' (lol) plastic back that literally feels like c*m ?

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I've heard that a lot and I've actually found the opposite to be true with the people I know. Most of my tech savvy friends have iPhones while the people who have android don't know that much about them. I only know one person who has loaded a custom rom on their android. I have found the larger screen is the main reason why most people I know got android. Most of them don't know anything about updates or jelly bean or ice cream sandwich. I'm not saying that iphone owners are not the same because i know a lot of iphone owners that know very little about their phone as well. I think on the whole only a small percentage of people who own smartphones are really all that tech savvy. This is just my opinion so I'm not stating anything as fact but this is just what I've found.

I have 3 friends with android phones, I asked them if they had ICS on there, all 3 of them looked at me as if i'm speaking some alien language to them.
 

Bahroo

macrumors 68000
Jul 21, 2012
1,860
2
You ever think you got a defective phone?

My s3 has never crashed one me. Not even once. Whether it be apps, msgs, web browser. My s2 on the other hand crashed frequently.

My ipad1 on the other hand, crashes all the damn time.

No I completly wiped my S3 and did a fresh everything, it doesnt crash on text websites like this or Cnn.com but sometimes when im watching flash videos or trying to copy and paste, or opening a new tab it will crash...and weird, my ipad 1 doesnt crash, granted I dont use it much but so far its been stable on iOS 5.1.1...
 

Russiaone

macrumors 6502
Jun 7, 2010
430
159
stock android outclasses iOS? my friend's galaxy nexus isn't living up to his expectations at all:
1. He's constantly installing beta ROM from developers just to find a build with less lag and better battery life
2. camera app applies some strange vibrant effect to the photos taken on the phone

...and other small things which i wont get into

Verdict? Stock android is certainly better than those hideously skinned androids, but stock android is always coupled with subpar nexus hardware, which, at the end of the day, ruins it.

Not on Nexus 7. Everything about the tablet is fantastic (with the exception of the lacking app market place and iffy first-run build quality). It being my first Android device I'm simply floored by the customization options and general zippiness of Jellybean.

Please don't get me wrong, I love the simplicity of iOS (it's served me well for years). But actually sitting down and experiencing the joys of Android has made me consider buying something other than Apple for the first time in a bit, when it comes to tablets and phones.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
I dont think Apple has fallen behind at all, I also don't think that they are ahead either. What they do do, is produce a superb phone that its customers like and expect. They have a formula that works, people buy their phones in millions. Their phones are reliable, simple to learn and use and integrate seamlessly with other Apple products. I use many Apple products, ATM an iPhone isn't among that list, thats not to say it's behind, it isn't, but at this moment in time I am enjoying something different.
 

skidbubble

macrumors 6502
May 17, 2010
330
0
Apple is playing catch-up. They are just now, finally, getting features that other competing phones have had for years already. Example? 4G. The iPhone finally has it. Other devices have already had it for 2+ years. Without a doubt, when other devices move on and advance to 5G, Apple will lag behind 2-3 years or more.
 
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