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Is it possible that iphone 5s firmware can be installed on iphone 6s?

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Andrewtst

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Oct 28, 2016
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That's 2 different looking phones.

There is very little distance between the home button and the bottom of the phone on the pic on the right. Much different from the one on the left.

Also, does Apple have a yellow battery icon?
That is because he didn't fully taken the whole phone photo, the bottom part get chop off when taken

Yellow battery as others member point out during low power mode.
 

aliensporebomb

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Jun 19, 2005
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I had a working iphone 6s 16 and i went to update it on Apple Service centre and they updated it. But i dont know what they did to it. It is an iphone 6s from outside but the firmware is of iphone 5s and also No functions of 6s are working not even 3d touch. Now they are asking for the Bill of the phone so they could replace it (maybe) ??
Is it possible??
What should i do??

I don't understand - you wanted to update your phone to the latest operating system so you brought it to an Apple Service Centre to update the software on your phone instead of doing it yourself?

It sounds to me like they swapped your phone. If you have your original box it should have the serial for the original phone - theoretically.

Baffling. Then you are dealing with a potential honest mistake or potentially theft on the part of someone at the service center.
 

Applejuiced

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Apr 16, 2008
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Its a mystery :D
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borgsauce

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Dec 18, 2016
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Could it be possible that they had swapped the internals of the 6S with a 5S? Assuming all ports on the logic board are the same between these two devices.
 

Septembersrain

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I have to sign up to post. In Vietnam, we have met this case one year ago. This is the iphone 5s mainboard upgrade the iphone 6s case.

O.O Considering the size differences, that's crazy. Though the component would be smaller, not larger. So maybe possible?

Woah.
 

SuperKerem

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Oct 29, 2012
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Here's what I think happened:

The internals of your iPhone 6s were removed and replaced with the internals of a cheap 16GB 5s. This is the only possible explanation based on the fact that benchmark apps show your device as being a 5s, and the serial number belongs to a 5s, while the exterior clearly belongs to a 6s.

I believe the display is running at the iPhone 5s's resolution, but is just "bigger" - it would clearly not be an original Apple part. This sounds like a new scam these fake repair shops do to essentially steal all the valuable parts inside the latest iPhones.

The only way to know for sure is to remove the two screws on the bottom of your phone, lift the screen up, and see what's inside.
 

Applejuiced

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Apr 16, 2008
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This is such a wild story though.
Is it really the case of an iphone 6S case shell with the right screen size and somehow frankesteined inside there the internals of a 5S? How would that all work with each other and fit inside and all the ports to function and the screen to operate with hardware that does not support it?
Its all bizarre to me.
 

robotica

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Jul 10, 2007
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This is such a wild story though.
Is it really the case of an iphone 6S case shell with the right screen size and somehow frankesteined inside there the internals of a 5S? How would that all work with each other and fit inside and all the ports to function and the screen to operate with hardware that does not support it?
Its all bizarre to me.
I don't think the 6s internals would have been put in a 5s, probably put in another 6s shell.
 

tomjleeds

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Jul 19, 2004
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This is such a wild story though.
Is it really the case of an iphone 6S case shell with the right screen size and somehow frankesteined inside there the internals of a 5S? How would that all work with each other and fit inside and all the ports to function and the screen to operate with hardware that does not support it?
Its all bizarre to me.

I think we're well past the time when a particular device needed a particular set of components which all worked together in exactly the right way. These are powerful devices, they are more than capable of coping with a set of drivers and selecting the right ones for the present hardware.
 

ericwn

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Apr 24, 2016
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I think we're well past the time when a particular device needed a particular set of components which all worked together in exactly the right way. These are powerful devices, they are more than capable of coping with a set of drivers and selecting the right ones for the present hardware.

I'm not sure this can be put into a general theory as if more powerful aka faster devices would somehow by definition be less prone to hardware incompatibilities. Do you have further documentation to explain the point more?
 

tomjleeds

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I'm not sure this can be put into a general theory as if more powerful aka faster devices would somehow by definition be less prone to hardware incompatibilities. Do you have further documentation to explain the point more?

The point is that we aren't dealing with something like a Nokia 3210 which is creaking along on the limit of its capabilities, we're dealing with the equivalent of desktop computers from just a few years ago.

Those desktop computers, whether running Windows or "macOS" or some other *nix variant, cope with running a wide variety of hardware. They have a broad library of different drivers to choose from. An iPhone is essentially running a *nix variant, and works in a similar way.

Now, this kind of sneaky trick may require someone to produce their own IPSW/whatever and bundle the appropriate drivers, but that's far from rocket science.

ETA: Just to add, I never claimed any general theory or anything by definition of being more powerful, my response was quite clearly in the context of iPhones.
 
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Applejuiced

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I think we're well past the time when a particular device needed a particular set of components which all worked together in exactly the right way. These are powerful devices, they are more than capable of coping with a set of drivers and selecting the right ones for the present hardware.

Its nowhere near as easy or simple as you think. And no they dont auto select or auto install drivers for the appropriate hardware plugged in.
 

ericwn

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The point is that we aren't dealing with something like a Nokia 3210 which is creaking along on the limit of its capabilities, we're dealing with the equivalent of desktop computers from just a few years ago.

Those desktop computers, whether running Windows or "macOS" or some other *nix variant, cope with running a wide variety of hardware. They have a broad library of different drivers to choose from. An iPhone is essentially running a *nix variant, and works in a similar way.

Now, this kind of sneaky trick may require someone to produce their own IPSW/whatever and bundle the appropriate drivers, but that's far from rocket science.

Mobile device components are not your standard PC stuff that can be plugged into everything else. The main boards have specific connections and capabilities for the expected other components. It would require adjusting drivers and what not specific to the new components that one wants to use.
 
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Cameroncafe10a

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Oct 15, 2016
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I just try put your phone side by side with one of the iPhone 6s image from internet. It looks kind of identical. It is 4.7" to me which means it is not possible knock off version of iPhone 5s which is 4" but just your black border seems slightly ticker than Verge photo. (Unless really got people success put in the 5s hardware to 6s body include changing the LCD to 4.7")

This is very weird and I think not happen before.

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The service center shall replace for you as it is their fault and during send for service they shall have generate receipt for you, that receipt shall be a proof your phone is not working as they suppose. You don't need to show the original receipt for this as this is not your fault but the service center. The service center need to fixed for you, if they can't they need to figure out the way (for example replacement).

The black line around the edge of the display looks fishy... I think this is a fake iPhone 6s with the internals of an iPhone 5s
 

tomjleeds

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Its nowhere near as easy or simple as you think. And no they dont auto select or auto install drivers for the appropriate hardware plugged in.

I would contend that it's nowhere near as hard or complex as you think. Every modern computer selects appropriate drivers at boot time. iPhones run essentially a BSD kernel, and that's exactly what a BSD machine does.

ETA: At no point did I mention installing anything...

Mobile device components are not your standard PC stuff that can be plugged into everything else. The main boards have specific connections and capabilities for the expected other components. It would require adjusting drivers and what not specific to the new components that one wants to use.

They are components nonetheless. We're not talking about a frankenstein GalaxyPhone, we're talking about (potentially) two sequential models of iPhone. iPhones with connectors designed by Apple. Do you reckon they re-engineer every connector every time?

Furthermore, it's almost certainly a non-OEM screen, and now all bets are off. Making fake components which act like real ones is huge business, there are hundreds of millions of dollars to be made. Who's to say this screen doesn't behave just like a 5S' one would, while having a larger panel?

As for adjusting drivers, I covered that; don't see a problem there. People have been hacking drivers for decades now.
 

Applejuiced

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rd or complex as you think. Every modern computer selects appropriate drivers at boot time. iPhones run essentially a BSD kernel, and that's exactly what a BSD machine does.

It just shows how much you dont know about mobile devices and special software and drivers needed to communicate with that hardware.
The iOS does not autodetect and install drivers for peripherals or random devices non ios specified to connect and run unsigned.
And even if you could write an ios version that includes those instructions you will never be able to install that software without apple signing the firmware allowing you to install the modified ios on your device.
You're way off and above your head, stop while you're ahead :D
 
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tomjleeds

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Jul 19, 2004
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It just shows how much you dont know about mobile devices and special software and drivers needed to communicate with that hardware.
The iOS does not autodetect and install drivers for peripherals or random devices non ios specified to connect and run unsigned.
And even if you could write an ios version that includes those instructions you will never be able to install that software without apple signing the firmware allowing you to install the modified ios on your device.
You're way off and above your head, stop while you're ahead :D

ETA: Clearly this guy knows everything, defer to him on all matters.
 
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