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iPhone 6s and SE low res screen
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That it's a $700 phone with a 720p screen? That every other phone, even cheaper ones have a better screen? Or that the iPhone has had pretty much the same screen for 5 years? I think those are pretty good...
You guys crack me up! The iPHONE SE has the exact same identical screen of the iPhone 5S which is still being SOLD as we speak!
Go take your spanking brand new iPhone SE - hold it up against an iPhone 5S - THEY ARE IDENTICAL. If you are fine with the iPhone 5/S then you are fine with the iPhone SE.
On the other hand, the iPhone 5 series display is GARBAGE in 2016. You have got to be out of your mind to consider the iPhone SE display to NOT be anything BUT LOW RESOLUTION. THis is 2016 where a $100 Chinese made phone has 720p MINIMUM. 1080P displays are still luxury on most device and are good enough I'd consider buying a phone with that display resolution. QHD is getting to the point of no return on investment really. Just wastes battery.
But please don't talk about something you do not understand! IPhone 5 series including the 5SE display resolution is PATHETIC. It's a 640p panel and comparing it to an iPhone 6 is a joke - that display is solid vs this crap. The 6S is even better.
Go take your spanking brand new iPhone SE - hold it up against an iPhone 5S - THEY ARE IDENTICAL. If you are fine with the iPhone 5/S then you are fine with the iPhone SE.
On the other hand, the iPhone 5 series display is GARBAGE in 2016. You have got to be out of your mind to consider the iPhone SE display to NOT be anything BUT LOW RESOLUTION. THis is 2016 where a $100 Chinese made phone has 720p MINIMUM. 1080P displays are still luxury on most device and are good enough I'd consider buying a phone with that display resolution. QHD is getting to the point of no return on investment really. Just wastes battery.
But please don't talk about something you do not understand! IPhone 5 series including the 5SE display resolution is PATHETIC. It's a 640p panel and comparing it to an iPhone 6 is a joke - that display is solid vs this crap. The 6S is even better.
Seems like the discussion isn't really about the 5s or SE line of phones.
As the OP stated, the iPhone 6 and 6s have exactly the same PPI as the the iPhone 5. The screen isn't any sharper than the iPhone 5, or even the iPhone 4 that matter.
Seems like this kind of discussion has just recently happened in threads like https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-7-higher-res-display.1957365/ and/or https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/if-5se-6-mini-still-has-326ppi-will-it-stop-you-buying.1959003/
But there are a number of display enhancements to the 6 and 6s displays that make the 5 and 5s display pretty old technology in 2016. Dual domain pixels and contrast ratio being the biggest. The 6's contrast ratio is about 1500:1 vs 800:1 on the 5, 5s, and SE.
If he's looking for pixels you're gonna need eagle vision. Sharpness is one thing on a display but you have to factor in contrast and color reproduction as well. Holding any iPhone 5 series display including the same identical display on the SE NEXT to any iPhone 6/6S you can clearly see how greater the display is on those latter devices. There's more to just squeezing in pixels on a display panel.
Look at traditioal IPS panels LG uses on their G4 - it's not bad at all but next to a super AMOLED display from Samsung and you can see the difference. From all angles, ambient lighting conditions, outdoor use, the iPhone 5 series display is just not good enough in 2016.
I dig the 5 series styling over the 6 series. I just wish they would get rid of the forehead/chin combo and be able to squeeze in the 4.7" panel instead. When you watch YouTube you're gonna get 480p content on that SE phone. Why even bother with 720p when it can't even display the pixels. It's wasting bandwidth and it's like watching bluray on my old trinitron CRT.
[doublepost=1458862786][/doublepost]I must also say these discussions remind me of the MACBOOK AIR vs Retina MacBook Pro displays. Lol, some people saying the MBA display is fine for them, some saying in 2014 you expect more. Sure the MBA is thinner but it's overall size is wider/taller than an rMBP. Apple has done well in distorting reality for many people. In 2016 they dare sell the same identical display phone they have been selling since 2012.
I applaud their marketing dept for they are so competent I cannot believe people are brainwashed into believing how this SE phone is the next innovation from Apple. At $399 it's not even a bargain, LOL.
I have a "nicer" android and I don't see the differences that you seem to see. You aren't the only one I have seen mention this, so I am not saying you're wrong... but can you agree that "smudged" isn't really a term you could honestly use for viewing pictures? It's certainly not a term I have ever seen used in describing the iPhone screen.
As far as video viewing, again, I am on the opposite end of the spectrum. We use Binge on (480p streams) and, while I can certainly see quality loss, it's not bad enough to make me want to pay MORE for more data.
You;re not wrong though, that if you want a higher res (beyond 1080p) screen, currently Android is your only option. I can;t say I would be strictly disappointed if Apple bumped up the resolution, but it's also not even among the top five things I want to see in an iPhone.
As far as video viewing, again, I am on the opposite end of the spectrum. We use Binge on (480p streams) and, while I can certainly see quality loss, it's not bad enough to make me want to pay MORE for more data.
You;re not wrong though, that if you want a higher res (beyond 1080p) screen, currently Android is your only option. I can;t say I would be strictly disappointed if Apple bumped up the resolution, but it's also not even among the top five things I want to see in an iPhone.
Apple never said it was innovation, it introduced it for people who want a 4 inch phone and for the low end. It is a good price for something that is essentially the top of the line in the camera and performance.
Screens are pretty subjective anyway. The screen on my iPhone 5 looks fantastic, I couldn't complain at all. I'm still content with my iPad 2's display as well.
Samsung Galaxy displays are far better than Apple's Iphone, but it has little to do with pixels. It's more about amoled vs lcd. Apple is far behind in that regard, but better than android phones in most other ways.
I haven't seen anyone claim that iPhone SE is "innovation". That's a straw man argument on your part.
$399 is a decent deal for people who want an entry-level smart phone that is (1) Reasonably future proof due to the A9 processor and 2GB of RAM (2) Will get timely iOS updates (3) Is light and compact and (4) Has Apple Store support.
The SE is primarily a communications device, not a media player. I'll take the $250 discount over the 6s simply because I don't watch video or look at photos that much on my device.
A Samsung phone may have that QHD AMOLED panel, but I personally don't want software security updates to be held hostage by the wireless carriers.
It's a matter of priorities and trade offs. The SE's panel is weak compared to newer phones, but it doesn't need a top of the line panel.
Pretty sure the SE doesn't have the exact same screen as the 5s.
It has the capability of going much brighter to act as a selfie flash like the 6s.
Similar maybe but not identical to the old screen. Maybe all they did was add more backlights.
I guess we'll find out when it comes out!
It has the capability of going much brighter to act as a selfie flash like the 6s.
Similar maybe but not identical to the old screen. Maybe all they did was add more backlights.
I guess we'll find out when it comes out!
The resolution is fine for the size of the phone. Sure it could be better, but to say its low res and poor quality is a stretch OP
Everything is crisp, and resolution is only one part of the story - there's much more to a phone's screen quality than resolution alone.
Everything is crisp, and resolution is only one part of the story - there's much more to a phone's screen quality than resolution alone.
Everyone agrees that all iPhone's display screen LCD is inferior to SAMOLED panels found in Galaxy S6/S7 series.
That is the reason why Apple has fast tracked its SAMOLED screen implementation from 2018 to 2017 models. But I wouldn't be surprised if iPhone 7 has it.
Regarding screen pixel density, S6/S7 look slightly more crisp to my eyes. But current retina screens of all iPhones are not bad either.
That is the reason why Apple has fast tracked its SAMOLED screen implementation from 2018 to 2017 models. But I wouldn't be surprised if iPhone 7 has it.
Regarding screen pixel density, S6/S7 look slightly more crisp to my eyes. But current retina screens of all iPhones are not bad either.
You can always get android phone to play back photos you take with your iPhone. And as far as you tube is concerned are you certain you have it set correctly. Maybe the download resolution is not set to max.
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If it's that important why did you buy it. Like you said so many other phones you could have bought.
I agree with the OP's sentiment, but I don't think it is that big of a deal. I use a 6S and I think the screen is fine, although sometimes depending on what I'm doing the lack of clarity compared to my wife's 6S+ is apparent.
I'm hoping and somewhat expecting the 4.7" iPhone 7 (assuming they stick with that size) will get a bump up to 1080p. The 6+/6S+ screen is great the way it is IMO.
I'm hoping and somewhat expecting the 4.7" iPhone 7 (assuming they stick with that size) will get a bump up to 1080p. The 6+/6S+ screen is great the way it is IMO.
Oh my. Someone is a spec hound while clearly lacking any understanding. Please stop pretending that your iPhone screen is unacceptable because it is only "720p" and makes YouTube videos look bad. Pixel density starting with iPhone 4 has been in excess resolution of what your eyes can see. There is no benefit to squeezing more pixels into a 4 or 5 inch screen. At such screen sizes, there is no benefit had from 1080p, 4K, 8k, 16K because these all would feature pixel densities exceeding the resolution of human eyes. It sure would eat up system resources to drive a 5" 4K screen and you could brag about it. Win!
PPI on the iPhone 4-6S (326 PPI) is not definitively higher than what the human eye can perceive. I can definitely see the pixels on my 6S in certain use cases. It doesn't bother me, but it's inaccurate to way that it isn't perceivable.
https://mostly-tech.com/2013/11/08/debunking-the-retina-display-myth/
Alright, I get it guys. I messed up on getting another iPhone, obviously I didn't do enough research on the specs that matter to me. I agree that the Samsung software is bad, I had a GS6 before this. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 6P, what do you guys think? I know it's kinda weird talking about Android on a macrumors forum, but I might as well ask before I leave this forum, and somebody may have some experience with the 6P.
EDIT: Or do you guys think I should get the 6 plus? I don't have the money for a 6s plus, but if it's a big enough difference I'll think about it.
EDIT: Or do you guys think I should get the 6 plus? I don't have the money for a 6s plus, but if it's a big enough difference I'll think about it.