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I'd go with the X, it's not buggy at all. Best iPhone since the original. Very different to use.

Very not buggy, very different, an interesting change. Best? dunno. Different, maybe better? Personal choice there, probably. The future path for Apple? Almost certainly, might as well start getting used to it. :D
 
I went through basically the same decision. I waited until both the X and the 8 were available in the Apple Store so I could spend time with each. I was actually hoping to like the X enough to buy it, but in the end decided on the 8. $300 is a big premium to pay for the X, especially for someone like me who is not at all into taking photos. The extra display size did not seem all that useful and it comes along with noticeably extra weight. The 8 is a beautiful phone with the glass back, A11 processor, and many of the same features as in the X. Touch ID is fine with me. So what I was expecting to be a difficult decision turned out to be an easy one.

Were you coming from a 5s as well??
 
Ive also got a 5s and I'm following this thread with a lot of interest. Never having experienced the plus iPhones, is it better to ignore them completely and go with the 8 or X?

Much better quality of photos taken in low light is something I'd appreciate. Is the 8 camera good enough?
 
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Ive also got a 5s and I'm following this thread with a lot of interest. Never having experienced the plus iPhones, is it better to ignore them completely and go with the 8 or X?

Much better quality of photos taken in low light is something I'd appreciate. Is the 8 camera good enough?

The iPhone 8 and the iPhone X are completely two different experiences, but share almost identical internals and the camera capabilities are very similar as well.

What you're purchasing with the iPhone X, is gesture controls, Face ID and an OLED display with the lack of a home button in a smaller form factor.
 
I had an 8 and now have an X. The camera on the 8 is fantastic, you won't be disappointed. The from factor of the Plus models is a little too big. I had the 6 Plus for 3 years and am so glad to be rid of it; was like a brick in my pocket. The X has a comparable screen size to the Plus models (depending on how you measure it) in a form factor pretty much the size of the regular 8.
 
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Ive also got a 5s and I'm following this thread with a lot of interest. Never having experienced the plus iPhones, is it better to ignore them completely and go with the 8 or X?

Much better quality of photos taken in low light is something I'd appreciate. Is the 8 camera good enough?

I tried a 6S Plus, thinking I could ditch my iPad Mini. For me, the Plus was HUUUUUGE. I went back to regular size phones.

The X is a totally different user experience. Not necessarily better or worse (except to you), but different. The display is approximately the size of a Plus display in a chassis that's approximately the size of a regular iPhone, but it handles very differently (and not just because of the gestures.

It's hard to say ignore the Plus, because a lot of people really like them, and a fair number of Plus users don't like the X. The best bet is to try to handle them.
 
I tried to like the 8, but after two weeks just could not and sent it back. Full refund thru Jan 8th.

I think the "X Plus" though is worth a shot. I like the Note 8 and would be more comparable.

If possible, go to a store and compare the Galaxy S8 and X together. Quite similar in size.
 
Why do you want to upgrade? Just because it's "time" or are you looking for specific features?

IMO, the best part about the new iPhones is the cameras. Most other iPhone functions work well on older models. If you are underwhelmed by the new phones and want to wait for a more refined X, a cheaper 8, whatever, you can buy an iPhone SE or a 7 at good prices. Both would be worthy upgrades to your 5S.
 
The iPhone 8 and the iPhone X are completely two different experiences, but share almost identical internals and the camera capabilities are very similar as well.

What you're purchasing with the iPhone X, is gesture controls, Face ID and an OLED display with the lack of a home button in a smaller form factor.

Don’t forget that third GB of RAM, which makes a pretty significant difference from what I’ve seen in comparison videos.

That aside, the X and the 8+ share internals and camera capabilities as well as that extra RAM. The 8 is a step below but still a very capable device.

I think it’s also worth saying that IMO, the X does not feel like a first gen device in any way outside of looking different. The experience is extremely polished and the great majority of the complaints in the reviews out there are software related and thus can be fixed with future software updates.

If you’re on the fence I highly recommend utilizing Apple’s generous return policies and trying out the X. The first day or two I was kinda “meh” but DAMN. Any time I use another iOS device I miss this thing. For the first time since the original I have a hard time putting it down.
 
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Don’t forget that third GB of RAM, which makes a pretty significant difference from what I’ve seen in comparison videos.

That aside, the X and the 8+ share internals and camera capabilities as well as that extra RAM. The 8 is a step below but still a very capable device.

I think it’s also worth saying that IMO, the X does not feel like a first gen device in any way outside of looking different. The experience is extremely polished and the great majority of the complaints in the reviews out there are software related and thus can be fixed with future software updates.

If you’re on the fence I highly recommend utilizing Apple’s generous return policies and trying out the X. The first day or two I was kinda “meh” but DAMN. Any time I use another iOS device I miss this thing. For the first time since the original I have a hard time putting it down.
do you use a case on your X?
 
Don’t forget that third GB of RAM, which makes a pretty significant difference from what I’ve seen in comparison videos.

That aside, the X and the 8+ share internals and camera capabilities as well as that extra RAM. The 8 is a step below but still a very capable device.

I think it’s also worth saying that IMO, the X does not feel like a first gen device in any way outside of looking different. The experience is extremely polished and the great majority of the complaints in the reviews out there are software related and thus can be fixed with future software updates.

If you’re on the fence I highly recommend utilizing Apple’s generous return policies and trying out the X. The first day or two I was kinda “meh” but DAMN. Any time I use another iOS device I miss this thing. For the first time since the original I have a hard time putting it down.

Remember that the 8 is driving a whole lot less pixels. I don't think it's a second class citizen for having 2/3 the RAM.

I agree that the X feels very polished, not like a first generation device. I think the UI could use some improvements, but for a first commercial release it is something that the people at Apple can rightfully be proud of, whether or not it works for all users.
 
Yep. Apple leather case and that’s only because I don’t like dealing with the smudges. Usually not a case guy.
I'm usually not a case guy and I hated the iPhone 6 as that phone practically requires you to use a case given how slippery it is.

The X now seems far too fragile to use without a case.
I went iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4 -> iPhone 4S all without a case
 
I'm usually not a case guy and I hated the iPhone 6 as that phone practically requires you to use a case given how slippery it is.

With the iPhone 6/6S/7, the aluminum was slippery depending on the condition of your hands. If your hands were dry, it was very slippery. If your hands were moist, I never had an issue with the iPhone slipping out of my hands. So I think it was dependent.
 
I'm usually not a case guy and I hated the iPhone 6 as that phone practically requires you to use a case given how slippery it is.

The X now seems far too fragile to use without a case.
I went iPhone 3GS -> iPhone 4 -> iPhone 4S all without a case

The 4 and 4s were among the greatest phones, ever, period (IMO). AND let us remember that the cost of replacing the back was really low (it was just a piece of glass) - $30 or something? It would seem impossibly small and slow today, but it was a total revolution five years ago. Probably one of the three best phones I've had in 30 years of cellphone ownership.
 
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I tried to like the 8, but after two weeks just could not and sent it back. Full refund thru Jan 8th.

I think the "X Plus" though is worth a shot. I like the Note 8 and would be more comparable.

If possible, go to a store and compare the Galaxy S8 and X together. Quite similar in size.

What didn't you like about the 8? And what phone were you coming from?
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Why do you want to upgrade? Just because it's "time" or are you looking for specific features?

IMO, the best part about the new iPhones is the cameras. Most other iPhone functions work well on older models. If you are underwhelmed by the new phones and want to wait for a more refined X, a cheaper 8, whatever, you can buy an iPhone SE or a 7 at good prices. Both would be worthy upgrades to your 5S.

Honestly I just find myself running out of space pretty often. I have to delete messages every two weeks or so to keep at least a gigabyte of space. Also, I'm running OS 10 and know I can't upgrade to 11 now or my phone will slow down drastically
 
Honestly I just find myself running out of space pretty often. I have to delete messages every two weeks or so to keep at least a gigabyte of space. Also, I'm running OS 10 and know I can't upgrade to 11 now or my phone will slow down drastically

iPhone SE (128G) for $449
iPhone 7 (128G) for $699

Both would be nice upgrades for your current phone and both run the current OS well.
 
I played with both and could easily afford both. I got the 8 for 2 reasons. I adore the screen on the x, it's much nicer than the 8 or 8+ for sure.
1. The x didn't seem like a "finished" product and even the sales person agreed with me there. It seems like it's still a work in progress, and I can have almost the same guts of the x for $300 cheaper in a " finalised" product version. If the 8+ wasn't so huge I would have went with that, but my hands are tiny so the 8 is almost too big as it is.
That's a good one. I'm sure a cell phone sales guy understands what a "finished" product is, even more than people on MR or anywhere else. I stopped trusting commission sales guys in 10th grade.
 
I had an 8 and now have an X. The camera on the 8 is fantastic, you won't be disappointed. The from factor of the Plus models is a little too big. I had the 6 Plus for 3 years and am so glad to be rid of it; was like a brick in my pocket. The X has a comparable screen size to the Plus models (depending on how you measure it) in a form factor pretty much the size of the regular 8.

What made you switch from the 8 to the X?
 
Your still on a 5s?

Oh honey you need a new phone ASAP..save yourself some money and get the 8. You’ll have Touch ID still which is amazing on the 8. Blazing fast.
 
I have the X, got it at launch and I am very happy with it. Face ID works perfectly when you use it correctly which takes some getting used to. You do have to pick up the phone and look at it, so the days of unlocking with your finger while your phone lies flat on the conference room table are over.

I am biased, but I really believe the 8 should not have been released and they should have just stuck with the 7. The 8 is the same device with wireless charging. It's kind of old technology (by Apple's standards) that Apple will phase out. Dollar for Dollar, spend the extra $150 or so and get the X. All their devices will be edge to edge and the 6/7/8 will look like a 5S in comparison.
 
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What are your priorities? The X has optical image stabilization on both lenses so that makes for better low light performance all around than the 8.

The X is useless for people in low light because of the design flaw of the flash being right next to the lens giving persistent red (photos) or white (video) eyes.
 
My last phone was a 5s, and the 7, 8, X, even the 6s are all significant upgrades from the 5s. I'm a little different I guess in that I don't have a need for a whole new design to let everyone know that I have the latest. I'm currently using the 6s which I think is a heck of a nice phone. If I were upgrading today, I would be buying the 8 as I prefer touch ID. I wouldn't be afraid of the X at all because of "bugs" though.
 
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The X is useless for people in low light because of the design flaw of the flash being right next to the lens giving persistent red (photos) or white (video) eyes.
I usually don’t use flash, except on objects, but you’re right, the flash on the X is a big step backwards in usability due to the terrible things it does to eyes in photos. It was a disappointment after how beautifully improved flash photography became on the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus.

This is an old thread and since my last post here, I’ve moved on to a Samsung S9+. The low light photos it takes are phenomenal, so I have not even used the flash yet to test it.

I do still use an iPhone 8 Plus as the phone for my main number, but mainly because I’m tied to iMessage due to long term group chats with other parents with whom I coordinate school and social events. And it works with Apple Watch, which is the one Apple product I’m most enthusiastic about even though it’s got some amusing quirks, like telling me I’ve achieved my move goal when I’m on the toilet. It does this a lot. :confused:

If things could be the way I wish, I’d switch my main sim between my Samsung and Pixel 2, and Apple Watch would work with both of them and so would iMessage.

I’m just not as enthusiastic about Apple’s hardware choices right now. Don’t get me wrong, the X is gorgeous and build quality appears as good as Apple always makes them. But the design of the camera bump is not practical for the flash problem it causes as well as permitting dust infiltration into the lens. The lack of ability to record in stereo audio, or even clearer less murky audio for video is unacceptable when the competition can do this for phones that are hundreds of dollars cheaper. And when it comes to my S9+, I appreciate that I can still use my wired headphones with it.

I look forward someday to a refined version of the X concept. I can’t guarantee I’ll pay up for it, but I’ll appreciate it when my husband gets one that he can pass to me someday. :p
 
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I got the iPhone X and I hate it. All the applications look terrible and the new gestures are unintuitive. I prefer my iPhone 6S with iOS 10.3.3. My advice is to wait until next winter when you will be able to get something better.

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