Other iPhone 8 vs iPhone x

[Dodgeman]

I opted for the 8 over the X. I'm getting pretty much what I am used to. Runs similar components to the X. And it was $300 less. I looked at them side by side and just couldn't justify the $300.

True. I would have probably did the plus just for the bigger screen and easier reading.
The X though is the perfect size device and has great features. However it is not worth $1000.
Only downside is if they do away with the home screen and look of the 8 devices as the X can be the future.

 

[44267547]

I got the iPhone X and I hate it. All the applications look terrible and the new gestures are unintuitive. My advice is to wait until next winter

Waiting for something that’s going to be likely the same with gesture controls isn’t going to drastically change in the course of six months in terms of how Apple has implemented the UI to begin with.

 

[newellj]

Waiting for something that’s going to be likely the same with gesture controls isn’t going to drastically change in the course of six months in terms of how Apple has implemented the UI to begin with.

Maybe - but it wouldn't take much to fix what I found to be critical everyday (every hour) UI disasters. If Apple fixed three things I'd consider moving back to FaceID:

- better access to notifications
- better access to control center
- better access to ApplePay

I really don't think those could be that hard. Whether I'm right or not, who knows whether Apple will address what I see as fatal UI/UX flaws. And, as always, this is IMO/IME/YMMV.

 

[macintoshmac]

Don’t forget that third GB of RAM, which makes a pretty significant difference from what I’ve seen in comparison videos.

That aside, the X and the 8+ share internals and camera capabilities as well as that extra RAM. The 8 is a step below but still a very capable device.

I think it’s also worth saying that IMO, the X does not feel like a first gen device in any way outside of looking different. The experience is extremely polished and the great majority of the complaints in the reviews out there are software related and thus can be fixed with future software updates.

If you’re on the fence I highly recommend utilizing Apple’s generous return policies and trying out the X. The first day or two I was kinda “meh” but DAMN. Any time I use another iOS device I miss this thing. For the first time since the original I have a hard time putting it down.

I am looking for feedback on the 8 and X. I tried the 8 and X in store, and it seemed the X was faster overall. Why is that, considering the internals are the same? Is the extra 1GB RAM doing its thing?

 

[Skika]

I am looking for feedback on the 8 and X. I tried the 8 and X in store, and it seemed the X was faster overall. Why is that, considering the internals are the same? Is the extra 1GB RAM doing its thing?

120hz touch input

 

[macintoshmac]

120hz touch input

I particularly noticed (felt) faster app opening times with the X than the 8 and came out of the store puzzled. Decided I will get home and post here for feedback.

 

[Boostedhatch]

iPhone X is dope. No issues here. Love the camera. Face ID has been issue free for me. Even works with my Oakley’s on usually. No complaints here. Most apps and password situations seem to work smoothly when Face ID over rides them and auto fills it in. I thought I was gonna be lost with out Touch ID but it’s been a smooth transition

 

[1050792]

Maybe - but it wouldn't take much to fix what I found to be critical everyday (every hour) UI disasters. If Apple fixed three things I'd consider moving back to FaceID:

- better access to notifications
- better access to control center
- better access to ApplePay

I really don't think those could be that hard. Whether I'm right or not, who knows whether Apple will address what I see as fatal UI/UX flaws. And, as always, this is IMO/IME/YMMV.

How would you implement those gestures to be accessible in the home screen or inside an app in a "better way"?
I can't think of a better way than how it's done right now.
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iPhone X is dope. No issues here. Love the camera. Face ID has been issue free for me. Even works with my Oakley’s on usually. No complaints here. Most apps and password situations seem to work smoothly when Face ID over rides them and auto fills it in. I thought I was gonna be lost with out Touch ID but it’s been a smooth transition

How's your Face ID working at in low light? Mine fails 90% of the time.

 

[Boostedhatch]

How would you implement those gestures to be accessible in the home screen or inside an app in a "better way"?
I can't think of a better way than how it's done right now.
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How's your Face ID working at in low light? Mine fails 90% of the time.

Low light is ok. As the phone screen usually lights up my face enough to use it. I notice in sunlight it doesn’t work as good at all. Very noticeable difference in my opinion. I usually have to use my passcode when in the car and trying to un lock it in sunlight. But that’s also with my Oakley’s on. It’s hit or miss but I have sunglasses on 99% of the time. So I don’t think it’s a Face ID issue at all

 

[newellj]

How would you implement those gestures to be accessible in the home screen or inside an app in a "better way"?
I can't think of a better way than how it's done right now.
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How's your Face ID working at in low light? Mine fails 90% of the time.

For ApplePay, I'm not sure. I don't know what the security requirements might be and honestly I haven't thought about what sequence might work. Here's a thought - how about a long force-touch press on the bottom half of the display? In any case, as far as I'm concerned (so, YMMV) the current implementation is so bad that that's probably the #1 reason I returned the phone after using it for a month and a half.

For both control center and notifications, simply allow a mirror-image option to swipe *up* from the bottom from the same corner.

Low light: never had any trouble at all with FaceID in low (or even no) light. Which makes sense - the FaceID module hits your face with IR "light" to ID you. Is it possible that you're holding it at a different angle or distance in no/low light situations?

 

[1050792]

For ApplePay, I'm not sure. I don't know what the security requirements might be and honestly I haven't thought about what sequence might work. Here's a thought - how about a long force-touch press on the bottom half of the display? In any case, as far as I'm concerned (so, YMMV) the current implementation is so bad that that's probably the #1 reason I returned the phone after using it for a month and a half.

For both control center and notifications, simply allow a mirror-image option to swipe *up* from the bottom from the same corner.

Low light: never had any trouble at all with FaceID in low (or even no) light. Which makes sense - the FaceID module hits your face with IR "light" to ID you. Is it possible that you're holding it at a different angle or distance in no/low light situations?

What about swiping up from the bottom and turn right it opens the control center, turning left it opens the notification centre, without leaving the finger? You can take my idea Apple it's yours.

 

[Boostedhatch]

What about swiping up from the bottom and turn right it opens the control center, turning left it opens the notification centre, without leaving the finger? You can take my idea Apple it's yours.

Or maybe. A swipe left and right gesture for notifications that way you can one hand it

 

[1050792]

Low light is ok. As the phone screen usually lights up my face enough to use it. I notice in sunlight it doesn’t work as good at all. Very noticeable difference in my opinion. I usually have to use my passcode when in the car and trying to un lock it in sunlight. But that’s also with my Oakley’s on. It’s hit or miss but I have sunglasses on 99% of the time. So I don’t think it’s a Face ID issue at all

That's what's wrong with Face ID it's good and actually better than Touch ID for me, although it feels like it's still in Beta and when the next iPhone that brings the next Generation Face ID that will unlock in less than a second and work with all lightning environments, will make the first generation Face ID look handicapped.

 

[newellj]

What about swiping up from the bottom and turn right it opens the control center, turning left it opens the notification centre, without leaving the finger? You can take my idea Apple it's yours.

As the iPhone X UI currently exists, your suggestion would be a step forward.

 

[1050792]

As the iPhone X UI currently exists, your suggestion would be a step forward.

It might be a step foward still I don't think it isn't be something that Apple would do since it can create confusion for less technical users, instead they make it simpler.

 

[newellj]

That's what's wrong with Face ID it's good and actually better than Touch ID for me, although it feels like it's still in Beta and when the next iPhone that brings the next Generation Face ID that will unlock in less than a second and work with all lightning environments, will make the first generation Face ID look handicapped.

This is a genuine question, pure curiosity: why do you say it feels like it's still in beta? I would have said that given its hardware limitations (portrait mode only, needs to be at the right angle to see your face) it actually feels quite polished. I don't like its limitations, but to me they didn't feel beta - they just felt like the hardware could only do so much, given what it was. But maybe that's what you mean?
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It might be a step foward still I don't think it isn't be something that Apple would do since it can create confusion for less technical users, instead they make it simpler.

I don't know whether your response to my post was facetious or not. I don't think a mirror-image bottom corner swipe (vs. top corner swipe) would be confusing at all, and it would solve a big UI/UX problem.

 

[1050792]

This is a genuine question, pure curiosity: why do you say it feels like it's still in beta? I would have said that given its hardware limitations (portrait mode only, needs to be at the right angle to see your face) it actually feels quite polished. I don't like its limitations, but to me they didn't feel beta - they just felt like the hardware could only do so much, given what it was. But maybe that's what you mean?
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I don't know whether your response to my post was facetious or not. I don't think a mirror-image bottom corner swipe (vs. top corner swipe) would be confusing at all, and it would solve a big UI/UX problem.

I mean that it feels that it's still in Beta because it fails a lot in low light. I can already see Phil Schiller saying "The new generation Face ID works much better in low light compared to the previous generation" or something like that, also you need to position the phone on a specific angle for example when I'm sit down in a chair and want to unlock the phone I have to either pick it up close to my face so it recognizes or bend over to the phone screen. It also feels like beta because it's slower than Touch ID although I'm sure it's going to become faster just like Touch ID did.
My suggestion for iOS gestures was not facetious, it was the only way I could think of how Apple could change the Notification Centre and Control Centre gestures instead of being on the top.
Even better,
swipe up - swipe left - notification centre.
swipe up - swipe right - control centre
swipe up and pause - backgroud applications

 

[newellj]

It might be a step foward still I don't think it isn't be something that Apple would do since it can create confusion for less technical users, instead they make it simpler.

I wouldn't bet cash that they will do anything, but IMO as a former owner, the UI has significant problems, and I will not buy a FaceID phone until they're fixed. I don't know how many people feel the same way. I might be a market of one.
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I mean that it feels that it's still in Beta because it fails a lot in low light. I can already see Phil Schiller saying "The new generation Face ID works much better in low light compared to the previous generation" or something like that, also you need to position the phone on a specific angle for example when I'm sit down in a chair and want to unlock the phone I have to either pick it up close to my face so it recognizes or bend over to the phone screen. It also feels like beta because it's slower than Touch ID although I'm sure it's going to become faster just like Touch ID did.
My suggestion for iOS gestures was not facetious, it was the only way I could think of how Apple could change the Notification Centre and Control Centre gestures instead of being on the top.
Even better,
swipe up - swipe left - notification centre.
swipe up - swipe right - control centre
swipe up and pause - backgroud applications

It's funny - I never had any problems using the X in the dark. But the angle issue is real for me because I use my phone a lot on the desk and that never worked with the X.

Your suggestions about notifications and control center are good, or at least worth Apple experimenting with.

You brought back to mind a less significant UI issue for me - app-killing with FaceID currently feels like an awkward mess.

 

[saxman211]

So I have to be honest... I finally broke down and got the iPhone X... I like it, but face ID is pretty horrible compared to the touch ID. It's a step backwards. There were so many situations where it was easy to open my phone with Touch ID, where it's hard to open it with Face ID. And there are a too many situations where I just can't open the phone at all unless I use my password... I'm disappointed...

 

[BugeyeSTI]

I mean that it feels that it's still in Beta because it fails a lot in low light. I can already see Phil Schiller saying "The new generation Face ID works much better in low light compared to the previous generation" or something like that, also you need to position the phone on a specific angle for example when I'm sit down in a chair and want to unlock the phone I have to either pick it up close to my face so it recognizes or bend over to the phone screen. It also feels like beta because it's slower than Touch ID although I'm sure it's going to become faster just like Touch ID did.
My suggestion for iOS gestures was not facetious, it was the only way I could think of how Apple could change the Notification Centre and Control Centre gestures instead of being on the top.
Even better,
swipe up - swipe left - notification centre.
swipe up - swipe right - control centre
swipe up and pause - backgroud applications

My FaceId works in a pitch black room.. Bright sunlight seems to piss it off though

 

[1050792]

My FaceId works in a pitch black room.. Bright sunlight seems to piss it off though

Mine has issues in dark rooms and bright sunlight. I already reset the Face ID many times but it's still the same thing.

 

[teknikal90]

touch ID > faceid

FaceID is no doubt more cool.
But touch id is way way way more practical and reliable.
I had to switch my device password to 6 digit code (vs alphanumeric password) becasue faceID fails that many more times vs touchID

 

[Dodgeman]

I have not really tried FACE ID on the phone I had.
I do prefer the touch ID but is FID really that bad??

 

[PhoneMe1]

I have not really tried FACE ID on the phone I had.
I do prefer the touch ID but is FID really that bad??

Nah works way better for me than TID, i don't even use it on my iPad pro.

 

[Boostedhatch]

My FaceId works in a pitch black room.. Bright sunlight seems to piss it off though

Same thing I noticed. It doesn’t like super bright light but I don’t think it’s that bad.