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"(a few theories out there, I felt this is the safest route to go)

While the iPhone has no memory issues, I have read that it is smart to charge initially for a few hours. Again, I state it's the "safest" way to go. If you want to use your battery right away, go for it.

Still, if you want to calibrate your battery (something everyone needs to do), you should make sure it's fully charged before calibration.

Is there a app for fast switching of 3g, wifi, etc?

I knew of one on a jailbroke phone but unaware of one that is legit.

Anybody??? If not an APP needs to be created. Hell Ill even pay for it.

No.
 
Where do you see this conflict? The OP clearly (and correctly) states to not run your LiIon batteries completely dead. When LiIon's drain completely they grow a crystal structure that diminishes their recharge ability. However you must re-calibrate the charging meter (LiIon's have a complex recharge control system since the batteries are volatile) from time to time (about once every 30 charge cycles) by completely discharging the battery.

Wrong... Nickel-based batteries are the ones that can develop crystals. Not Lithium-ion! Below is on Apple's web page for Battery Care.

Please read carefully...

Lithium-ion batteries pack in a higher power density than nickel-based batteries. This gives you a longer battery life in a lighter package, as lithium is the lightest metal. You can also recharge a lithium-ion battery whenever convenient, without the full charge or discharge cycle necessary to keep nickel-based batteries at peak performance. (Over time, crystals build up in nickel-based batteries and prevent you from charging them completely, necessitating an inconvenient full discharge.)

Most lithium-ion batteries use a fast charge to charge your device to 80% battery capacity, then switch to trickle charging. That’s about two hours of charge time to power an iPod/iPhone to 80% capacity, then another two hours to fully charge it, if you are not using the iPod/iPhone while charging. You can charge all lithium-ion batteries a large but finite number of times, as defined by charge cycle.

A charge cycle means using all of the battery’s power, but that doesn’t necessarily mean a single charge. For instance, you could listen to your iPod for a few hours one day, using half its power, and then recharge it fully. If you did the same thing the next day, it would count as one charge cycle, not two, so you may take several days to complete a cycle. Each time you complete a charge cycle, it diminishes battery capacity slightly, but you can put notebook, iPod, and iPhone batteries through many charge cycles before they will only hold 80% of original battery capacity. As with other rechargeable batteries, you may eventually need to replace your battery.

For proper maintenance of a lithium-based battery, it’s important to keep the electrons in it moving occasionally. Be sure to go through at least one charge cycle per month (charging the battery to 100% and then completely running it down).

Carl D.
 
I know this is a little off topic but I want to know.
Is it normal for the iPhone to automatically turn itself on(when it's switched off) when you plug it in to the wall charger ?
Thanks in advance.
 
I know this is a little off topic but I want to know.
Is it normal for the iPhone to automatically turn itself on(when it's switched off) when you plug it in to the wall charger ?
Thanks in advance.

Yes this is completely normal. This happened to my iPod touch, and this also happens on my iPhone. So your fine.

snverhallne
 
Yes this is completely normal. This happened to my iPod touch, and this also happens on my iPhone. So your fine.

snverhallne

Hey snverhallne, thanks for the reply. I felt kinda weird when it switch on itself so I asked.
Anyway, thanks again. Appreciate it.
 
Hey snverhallne, thanks for the reply. I felt kinda weird when it switch on itself so I asked.
Anyway, thanks again. Appreciate it.

Glad I could help.

If you want it off while charging, you can start charging with it on, then turn it off. It will stay off this way.

snverhallen
 
Is there a app for fast switching of 3g, wifi, etc?

I knew of one on a jailbroke phone but unaware of one that is legit.

Anybody??? If not an APP needs to be created. Hell Ill even pay for it.

Jailbroken we have WiFiToggle and BTSwap. I've emailed them about a PowerMiser App that would turn ALL ON/OFF. 3G-WiFi-Everything
 
iphone 3g battery!?

hey im not sure if people are still checking this thread, but...
ive had my iphone 3g about 1month n a half now, and i regret to say i didnt FULLY charge when i 1st got it, i left it on charge but played with it whilst it was charging.
Since ive had it i havent charged it overnight as i didnt know whether it would ruin it... however i have now learnt thats okay to do isnt it?

Also, what is the best way to charge to keep the battery indicator accurate and to just keep the iphone working well? I paid a HEELLLLLL of a lot to get it off somebody as it was an unwanted upgrade, meaning i havent got insurance, only the 1 year warranty, and im not sure if thats still valid, if anyone could verify that for me also, it would be great!
Thanks for the info you've provided in this thread so far.
 
I've been getting good battery life since I upgraded to 2.1 and started turning off all of my 3G, WiFi, Bluetooth, etc.
 
This conflicts with another seemingly informed user who said that LiIon batteries don't need and shouldn't be fully drained.

LiIon doesn't care one way or the other. If you have a crappy charge controller then you might damage the batteries on overcharging, but the iPhone doesn't have a crappy charge controller, and will be fine no matter what your charging cycle is.

The issue with discharging all the way has nothing to do with the battery. It has to do with the iPhone software getting to know what is full and what is empty. After you've cycled it completely you no longer have to worry about it.

Maury
 
Thanks for the post. Great information.

I will be getting my iPhone later this month & was wondering how people fully drain their battery. I am assuming turn everything ON & run the iPod also?

The startup procedure seems like such a hassle when you get your new 3G & all you want to do is play with it! :D
 
yeah no worries mate no offence taken, but yes i did read all through the thread, although theres a lot of conflicting views, and i just wanted to like bring my own situation into the equasion.
Im quite worried, ive spent the day in London, using GPS and 3G, with ipod now and again, and my batteries drained. Is it normal or...?
 
yeah no worries mate no offence taken, but yes i did read all through the thread, although theres a lot of conflicting views, and i just wanted to like bring my own situation into the equasion.
Im quite worried, ive spent the day in London, using GPS and 3G, with ipod now and again, and my batteries drained. Is it normal or...?

I just travelled through Italy and I could barely, sometimes not even, make it through a day with GPS on, just when I used it, sometimes 10 times/day and 3G on all day. Brightness set to 20%, BT off, Wifi off.

So either we are normal, or we are both defective. It was SHOCKING how fast the battery drained with Location Services on... and yes I would menu/home out of maps when I was done.
 
I had 3g on, BT off, Wifi off, location services on, and i used that with the gps quite a bit getting through London, and i occasionally used the Ipod and the odd game or two. I suppose its fair enough that the battery should be drained after all that.
Im just worried that because i didnt drain and fully charge as soon as i got it, that ive sort of ruined by battery from the start?
Did you drain/fully charge yours first time lastzion??
 
Soooo bluetooth:

- Disable Bluetooth if you have no Bluetooth devices (duh). If you're like me and use Bluetooth in your car, I would just leave Bluetooth ON for convenience so you don't have to enable Bluetooth every time you go for a drive. More trouble than it's worth.

My old phone used to kill the battery with Bluetooth on. I use Bluetooth about once every other day, but I never know when I'm going to use it. Is it still worth it to keep it on?

Also, about Location Services: Does it really drain battery when its on even when it isn't being used?
 
Hey guys. I am wondering if i am getting OK battery use. I kept track of my useage at work today.

Phone on edge the entire time.

Internet on edge/wifi 1 hour and 40 min
texting 30 min
Phone 30 min
iPod 20 min

11 hours and 46 min of standby, and the battery metor is one green block away from red. Push is on, bluetooth off, gps off, screen brightness is set lower than normal. I was in bad reception most of the day though.

total use age about 3 hours.

Thanks guys.
 
Hey guys. I am wondering if i am getting OK battery use. I kept track of my useage at work today.

Phone on edge the entire time.

Internet on edge/wifi 1 hour and 40 min
texting 30 min
Phone 30 min
iPod 20 min

11 hours and 46 min of standby, and the battery metor is one green block away from red. Push is on, bluetooth off, gps off, screen brightness is set lower than normal. I was in bad reception most of the day though.

total use age about 3 hours.

Thanks guys.

It's on the low end, but is expected with generally bad reception.
 
Push is on ... I was in bad reception most of the day though.

If push is on, the radio is on more often, and if reception is bad, the radio transmitter has the power turned way up.

I'd turn off push and 3G when spending a very long time in an area where the reception is bad.

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If push is on, the radio is on more often, and if reception is bad, the radio transmitter has the power turned way up.

I'd turn off push and 3G when spending a very long time in an area where the reception is bad.

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Isn't the point of push battery saving? If I have push on, won't it save battery versus using fetch?
 
Isn't the point of push battery saving? If I have push on, won't it save battery versus using fetch?

No, you got it the other way around. When using PUSH, you are constantly connecting to the server. It's like, do you have an email for me?, do you have an email for me?, do you have an email for me?... lol. When using fetch, you are scheduling when the phone should connect to the server. If you set it to 15 minutes, then every 15 min. it will check whether you have new email, calendar event etc....;)
 
No, you got it the other way around. When using PUSH, you are constantly connecting to the server. It's like, do you have an email for me?, do you have an email for me?, do you have an email for me?... lol. When using fetch, you are scheduling when the phone should connect to the server. If you set it to 15 minutes, then every 15 min. it will check whether you have new email, calendar event etc....;)

Really? I was under the impression that push involved a server at Apple that would create a connection when a new e-mail arrived, so the iPhone only wastes power when an email is available. :-/ Man the real definition sucks more than what I thought it was.
 
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