Other iPhone battery life scandal. Would you ever buy another iPhone again?

[boltjames]

Answer. No.

What I find funny is your iPhone 6 working with 100% cpu capacity would still be slow on modern iOS versions... Some act like their old phone would somehow be saved and an absolute pleasure without being throttled.

This.

Perhaps it’s time for Apple to freeze all last generation phones with the last version of iOS designed for each phone and call it a day.

And if the owners complain about being stuck on iOS 9, too bad.

And let the batteries die out, no firmware to help lengthen their lifespan.

And if the owners complain about batteries dropping dead without warning, too bad.

Trying their best to help these people with old phones isn’t working; so just cut them loose and be done with it.

 

[eyeseeyou]

Giving Apple the benefit of the doubt and understanding that all business’ exist to make money and understanding why they would implement a throttle process, my opinion of them doesn’t change it much now that they’ve at least made an effort to make Apple users feel warm and fuzzy again.

No company is perfect and nothing is free.

If Samsung is still a top tier phone manufacturer after their exploding batteries fiasco then I think people are really just reacting to the moment.

That and I’m comepletely ok with swapping out the battery myself.

Now the battery on my 3 year old S0 AW is another story. My AW is slow and it dies way quicker than it used to before WatchOS 4.

#internetmad

 

[44267547]

We desperately need new and affordable battery tech. Lithium ion doesn't cut it anymore, but the alternative is way too expensive.

I'm sure the research and development is on-going. But lithium ion is still very viable and Apples batteries are some of the best in terms of longevity (Of course pending usage) and reliability. I still believe lithium ion batteries have an extended future in the tech industry for quite some time.

 

[Apple_Robert]

There is no "battery'gate" going on, except in the minds of those who have created a cosmic like Rod Sterling episode that continuously loops 'do not eject' over and over. I will continue to buy Apple until I don't.

 

[cyclingplatypus]

No.

 

[rocat1997]

I’m not exactly sure why people are so butt hurt over this. My iPhone 6 Plus was very dated and had low memory. I didn’t need the phone to slow down to tell me the battery was bad. The phone wouldn’t last but about 4 hours. Never saw a speed reduction even on iOS 11. I suspect that if people’s phones has slowed dow that much, they were frustrated already with the battery life.

 

[DougFNJ]

First of all, I think like most things that the news media latches onto, this is being blown WAY out of proportion. They don’t have anybody coming out as a sexual harasser/predator this week, so it’s Apple’s turn to make the headlines. This has not soured me on Apple.

For me it’s not a very easy move to another platform. First of all I have a lot invested in the Apple ecosystem and IOS Platform. I have a ton of apps I bought on IOS that I have no interest in paying for again on Android. I do not want to lose the synchronicity of my iPhone, iPad, Apple Watch, and Macbook. I like my setup, my comfort level, and my security. If I felt my phone was slowing down that much due to the battery, I’d go to the Apple Store and have them swap it.

I am so far removed from the Android Platform, it would be like learning a whole new computing system again. I read about the bad apps and malware that attaches to them, and the lack of privacy and security by Google with Android. I remember my first Droid experiences all the way up to the Droid 3 my wife got with 3 consecutive hardware malfunctions. I cannot wrap my head about the thought of ever having to go back to that Platform.

 

[adamhenry]

I am so far removed from the Android Platform, it would be like learning a whole new computing system again. I read about the bad apps and malware that attaches to them, and the lack of privacy and security by Google with Android. I remember my first Droid experiences all the way up to the Droid 3 my wife got with 3 consecutive hardware malfunctions. I cannot wrap my head about the thought of ever having to go back to that Platform.

Switching to droid would also require using a Windows PC. I would prefer shock therapy for the rest of my life.

 

[Shanghaichica]

No. What they did was very reasonable. All older phones slow down over time regardless of OEM. None of the other OEM’s tell you that your phone will slow down over them or admit to thermal throttling (which they do).

Apple have acknowledged, apologised and offered a remedy. Which is more than most would do

 

[catean]

Yes. Their response and the 29$ offer (40€ in Europe) made it even worse. I hope they will pay for this.

 

[44267547]

Interestingly enough, there's a lot of disapproval for Apple on a tech forum and those who are tech related followers. But for those in the outside world that I have talked to, don't care. It's simple as that. They just want Quality product and customer service to back up. Non-tech followers are not any less likely to not support Apple in the future, because They simply love the iPhone or other products that they make.

 

[Will22]

A lot of Apple customer's wouldn't blame Apple no matter what they did.

 

[boltjames]

Interestingly enough, there's a lot of disapproval for Apple on a tech forum and those who are tech related followers. But for those in the outside world that I have talked to, don't care. It's simple as that. They just want Quality product and customer service to back up. Non-tech followers are not any less likely to not support Apple in the future, because They simply love the iPhone or other products that they make.

Bingo. Same experience here.

Since word of this pretend ‘scandal’ broke I have been to three holiday parties with friends, family, and colleagues and engaged in conversations with dozens of older iPhone owners and all of them heard about it and none of them cared one iota.

Almost half the people said that if something did go wrong they knew Apple would make things right for them at no cost just as they’d done for them in years passed, so they weren’t worried at all. The rest said that their phones were old anyway and it was time for a new iPhone.

Outside of tech forums this is a non-issue.

 

[KhunJay]

I WOULD BUY ANOTHER IN A SECOND.

Just like the notch or that red dot, it is an non-issue to me as I replace my phone yearly.

Where would I move, to Android, NEVER!

And Blackberry is not making a comeback so where would YOU go?

folks like you is what emboldens them to do what they do.

 

[BarracksSi]

Bingo. Same experience here.

Since word of this pretend ‘scandal’ broke I have been to three holiday parties with friends, family, and colleagues and engaged in conversations with dozens of older iPhone owners and all of them heard about it and none of them cared one iota.

Almost half the people said that if something did go wrong they knew Apple would make things right for them at no cost just as they’d done for them in years passed, so they weren’t worried at all. The rest said that their phones were old anyway and it was time for a new iPhone.

Outside of tech forums this is a non-issue.

Agreed, and if any of my family had a question about it, when I relayed Apple's explanation plus background info about batteries in general, they seemed satisfied.

An informal poll over at macsurfer.com shows pretty much the same opinion so far (took a screenshot because I don't see a way to link to this specific poll's results).

 

[Dlanod]

I'm in the process of moving to Android having been an iPhone user since the 3G. I'd started this before the battery debacle as I'm just fed up of Apple controlling everything about the user experience. This has now confirmed my move.

I think I should get to decide between more frequent charging and performance. Not Apple.

They've also killed the second hand market for these phones too and that was one of the reasons to stay.

But I can now get a flagship android device for less than £600 and I'm not part of the Apple nanny state.

WhatsApp basically neuters the iMessage USP for my use case.

I still think Apple has the edge on tablets but I have moved away from everything Apple to a horse's for courses use case.

 

[Ulenspiegel]

It annoys and bothers me for many reasons, but I still prefer iPhones.

 

[iOSUser7]

folks like you is what emboldens them to do what they do.

As far as I know he can do whatever the f*ck he wants to do with his money.

 

[macfacts]

Not at all. They tried to do the right thing by prolonging the life of phones with a bad battery, but they really should have just let them die.

Let the iPhone 6s with bad batteries just die?

The iOS update that came with the throttle cheat software was introduced a little over 1 year after the iPhone 6s was released. So people would have a 1 year old iPhone 6s that is dead.

How is it possible for a 1 year old iPhone 6s to have a "consumed battery", unless it isn't consumed and is defective.

It is awesome iPhones have 1 year life spans now.

 

[MrX8503]

Apple offers a battery replacement to fix the issue. Should they have been more transparent? Yes, but their solution is more than adequate.

My next phone will be an iPhone.

 

[macfacts]

... And if the owners complain about batteries dropping dead without warning, too bad.

Trying their best to help these people with one year old phones isn’t working; so just cut them loose and be done with it.

I fixed your sentence for you. The iPhone 6s was only 1 year old when Apple released the throttlegate cheat software to fix battery issues in the iPhone 6s.

 

[DNichter]

Let the iPhone 6s with bad batteries just die?

The iOS update that came with the throttle cheat software was introduced a little over 1 year after the iPhone 6s was released. So people would have a 1 year old iPhone 6s that is dead.

How is it possible for a 1 year old iPhone 6s to have a "consumed battery", unless it isn't consumed and is defective.

It is awesome iPhones have 1 year life spans now.

You’re just making things up. Did some people with a 6s get a bad battery? Sure. Probably a bad batch. Did all of them? No, my girlfriends 6s was just fine through iOS 11.2. Yes it’s possible for a 1 year old phone to have a battery issue. And yes they should have just let the phones die so they could see it was a bad battery, and replace it. They tried to do the right thing and extend the life of those phones but it ended up biting them in the ass.

 

[boltjames]

I fixed your sentence for you. The iPhone 6s was only 1 year old when Apple released the throttlegate cheat software to fix battery issues in the iPhone 6s.

Something we don't talk about in this debate is phone abuse. These things aren't indestructible.

If my brother and I buy the same Honda at the same time from the same dealer and I put 3,000 miles a year on mine and he puts 30,000 miles a year on his, they aren't going to perform the same way as they age.

I'm an important senior executive, so my iPhone is used primarily for emails, texts, browsing, and phone calls. On the weekends, add in still camera and videos I shoot of the family.

Meanwhile, my son is on his phone day and night, he uses it more like a TV for watching streaming movies, he's constantly gaming on it, he's getting non-stop Snapchat and Instragram notifications, he's Facetiming, he's always running the battery down to 2% and running it up to 25% before letting it go down to 2% again, not to mention 5 days a week when it lives in an equipment bag in a freezing cold ice hockey arena for 3 hours during practice followed by a 1 hour sweaty trip home on a steamy sweaty bus back to town.

Point is, who the hell knows how these people are treating (abusing) their iPhone's. I can tell you from what I read here and the way the posts are written, it sounds more like my 17 year old son writing these hate posts, not a purposeful executive like me. I could completely understand my son's iPhone having battery problems or OS problems because he's not treating it like a respectful computer, he's treating it like a lawn mower.

 

[Martyimac]

Something we don't talk about in this debate is phone abuse. These things aren't indestructible.

If my brother and I buy the same Honda at the same time from the same dealer and I put 3,000 miles a year on mine and he puts 30,000 miles a year on his, they aren't going to perform the same way as they age.

I'm an important senior executive, so my iPhone is used primarily for emails, texts, browsing, and phone calls. On the weekends, add in still camera and videos I shoot of the family.

Meanwhile, my son is on his phone day and night, he uses it more like a TV for watching streaming movies, he's constantly gaming on it, he's getting non-stop Snapchat and Instragram notifications, he's Facetiming, he's always running the battery down to 2% and running it up to 25% before letting it go down to 2% again, not to mention 5 days a week when it lives in an equipment bag in a freezing cold ice hockey arena for 3 hours during practice followed by a 1 hour sweaty trip home on a steamy sweaty bus back to town.

Point is, who the hell knows how these people are treating (abusing) their iPhone's. I can tell you from what I read here and the way the posts are written, it sounds more like my 17 year old son writing these hate posts, not a purposeful executive like me. I could completely understand my son's iPhone having battery problems or OS problems because he's not treating it like a respectful computer, he's treating it like a lawn mower.

Just posting to remind myself of something you said.

 

[Darshizzle]

better question....do you trust that our other apple products (with batteries) are not throttled in the same way as iPhones? Or, do you believe that apple has kept other secrets about our devices, from us?

My answer: I believe there are other secrets about our devices kept from us that need investigating! Secrets that affect usage! IMHO.

P.S. See VW diesel gate as reference.