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ChantyBinx

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I'm curious what you all would need from a £2.5k+ iPhone Fold to make it worthy of the price.

For me it's parity with what Samsung are doing, but in the realm of the Apple ecosystem.

  • iPad like tablet experience meaning iPad multi tasking and windowing on the bigger inside screen. Out of the box iPad apps running on the inner display, iPhone version on outer.
  • iPad / Apple Pencil support like an iPad mini
  • Desktop mode like DeX to a monitor, TV or even Mac (I'd settle for mirroring too)

It's possible and Apple could school Samsung on how to make these things work more seamlessly if they tried, but my concern is... if they did any of that, I'd not need an iPad and frankly for my personal use, maybe not even a Mac. Not because an iPad or 'DeX' experience is anything close to a Mac one, but for a lot of folks personally it's enough of a desktop experience to replace it outside of specialist heavy duty work apps. So I can't see Apple doing it.

Unfortunately for me though, a device costing more than an iPhone and iPad combined at a minimum would need to do the job of both with as few cutbacks as possible.

I recently pre-ordered a Fold 8 and passed it off to a Samsung obsessed family member whose paying for it now. It absolutely can do what I say above (minus pencil, boo Samsung). The device did absolutely nothing bad and met my wildest expectation such as being a mini tablet and plug in desktop, but for me it simply wasn't an Apple device, didn't play with my HomePods, Apple TVs, my MacBook Air nor iMac or iPad - had I not had that kit all sitting around, fairly new and with years of life in them perhaps it would have worked. Only an Apple fold that justifies its existence would truly do the job.

Until then it's multi-device, multi-charging, multi-compartments in the backpack, waiting for iCloud to sync, joining Wi-Fi, paying for iCloud. The day when one device can do much of this is near but its in Apple's court to decide when they want to provide what Samsung et al. do.
 
I hope the rumors on the Indigo Blue color is accurate. If so I will be getting the Ultra in it’s max storage configuration, hopefully 2TB, no matter the price to add to my collection of iPhones . . .
 
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The one thing from stopping me from getting it is the fact the massage ring if it ends up having magsafe, will not correctly fit my magsafe wallets or battery packs without hanging over the phone bottom edge
 
Even if it miraculously cost only $799, I would still avoid it because of:

Durability (don't want to even think about grit migrating onto the folded plastic screen in my pocket)
Lack of Face ID
My screen size usage (when a ~6" screen is not enough, I prefer an 11" iPad).
 
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Price and 1st generation of a new product, Let them work out the bugs during the first year, somewhat like the Air.
See if the quality is what is being advertised. IMO
 
Probably nothing. Have wanted a pocket eReader for years. Well worth the price for me. Will only miss the telephoto lens. TouchID is fine. Wouldn't want it thicker just to add FaceID.
 
Like you said, it should accomplish the use cases of both a mini ipad and a phone.

I dont think it will though.

The following will put me off (in this order).

1. Price. >2K is just too much.
2. Lack of Telephoto.
3. Lack of FaceID
4. Lack of Pencil Support for inner screen.
5. If it isnt IP68, its not going to last.
6. If the inner screen cant run multiple apps as good as Samsung has implemented on their Fold.

The problem I see is the Fold will be worse than say a Pro iphone + separate mini ipad with the only advantage being its a 'single' device but with way more compromises. It will cost more too.

Im probably more excited about the 18 Pro/PM to be honest to see what they do with the cameras. Something the fold will certainly under deliver on in its first iteration.
 
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But my Air has been perfect since day 1.

What bugs are you talking about ?
Probably they mean initial software bugs with the UI when fully opened.

Anyway for me the Ultra could be the device us iPhone Mini lovers have been waiting for when using the Fold 8 as a point of reference. Price will be a consideration of course, I'm expecting it to be £1900-2000 for the base model in the UK, any more than that i might be put off but maybe not.
 
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I'm going to give one a go even with the rumoured camera/FaceID/MagSafe issues.

I'm sure the camera will still be good, just no optical zooming. (Recently got myself a decent MFT camera anyway).
No FaceID isn't great but with the TouchID being on the side it won't take long to get used to it. Didn't enjoy it at the top of my iPad mini so glad it isn't going there. But it will be at the top/bottom when using unfolded. (I'm holding out on the tiny hope that there will be FaceID on the front with TouchID for unfolded use. 🫣).
MagSafe isn't a problem as that's solved with a case that the majority will get anyway.


I just like the idea of a smaller AND bigger iPhone at the same time.

Will look for some sort of pouch/sleeve to help keep it free from dust/grit when not using. Hoping for an official Apple offering.

I'm prepared to sell on and go 18 Pro Max if I just can't get on with it, I'm almost sure that won't happen though.
 
I hope the rumors on the Indigo Blue color is accurate. If so I will be getting the Ultra in it’s max storage configuration, hopefully 2TB, no matter the price to add to my collection of iPhones . . .
Why max storage when u just collect it like your other phones? Seems like a substantial waste of money
 
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Why max storage when u just collect it like your other phones? Seems like a substantial waste of money
Yeah, and in my experience, selling used when models are current drastically does not reflect Apple's upgrade storage tiers, nor when the devices are long in the tooth / used.

And any time you look at the collectable 'new unopened iPhone 4 in box reviews', they also never seem to mention or obsess over the storage capacity or specs unless its a Mac with some rare GPU or display option.

I'm inclined to agree with you, though fair enough if there are people out there with the money to commit.
 
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Why max storage when u just collect it like your other phones? Seems like a substantial waste of money
For you perhaps but then you’re not the one buying my iPhones are you? My Pro series collection are based on all my devices being in their max storage configuration, including my recently acquired 17 Pro Max.

You, or anyone else, for that matter don’t have to agree with how I choose the devices I place into my collection but then it’s not your money paying for them either . . . it’s mine. :apple:
 
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But my Air has been perfect since day 1.

What bugs are you talking about ?
It had a slow adoption rate due to various reasons, I believe that the new air2 will be better engineered. Personally, I will be looking at the Air2 for my next purchase. I was merely commenting about first generation growing pains for some people.
 
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I truly have no idea. I won't be in the market for the first gen. I'll definitely be paying attention though and considering one of these down the road (hopefully in 3-5 years)
 
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The width when folded.

It makes it a very awkward one handed device (when using it folded).

It will likely be much easier to operate one handed. A lot of z fold 8 reviews mention specifically this. Because it is much shorter (but not significantly wider) you can reach all the corners with your thumb. There'll be a lot less shuffling the phone up and down in your hand or having to use both hands. Wider screen also means larger touch targets for the keys. I think using it closed as a phone, for these reasons, will be a big upgrade over the candy bar ratio phones we are used to
 
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