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cateye said:
In other news, Steve Jobs still dead. Experts predict he is likely to stay dead. Turning to weather, sunny with a 100% chance of Steve Jobs being dead. In Sports, Steve Jobs was forced to forfeit the game because he's dead.
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That hardly seems fair! Just because someone is dead doesn’t mean they should just be buried in the ground like a plastic soda bottle in a landfill.

Seriously though within a few decades AI will bring him back.
 
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I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.
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I hate this post. These aren’t facts, it’s your opinion because you don’t like foldables. A foldable phone is innovative and it’s something Steve Jobs would have considered if the tech was there.
 
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sre.live said:
I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.
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Steve Jobs also said not to look at him as some monolith. He also said he changes his mind easily if he's convinced. If Apple wanted to, they could have released a foldable 3-4 years ago, but the tech just wasn't there. I'm pretty sure that Apple is very aware of the lack of durability in many of these foldable phones. Just because the phone doesn't interest you or me, I feel like it's a dumb phone you buy to impress your dumb friends, but it definitely has appeal to a lot of people. A lot of times, people complain that Apple waits too long after everyone else has done something, but it's because they want to ensure the quality and the quantity there. I remember years ago snarky Samsung users making fun of people with their (incredibly good, near-perfect) LCD screens, and then two years later, their OLED Samsung screens were just blown away as trash.

With that said, I would bet my entire bank account that even though I won't want this weird $2k phone, it will undoubtedly be impressive and one of, if not the best foldable out there when it releases.
 
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How do you dare presume to know what Steve would think about a foldable iPhone/ipad/computer?.
I have a foldable phone for work and it make iPhone feel like a less capable device plus the lockdown on NFC, etc. I still love my iPhone, but it really feels mediocre for work. It feels Stone Age after working with a foldable. Apple is toooooooo late to this party and will release a 1st device vs 5 o 6 generations of foldsbles.
 
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It hasn't even been released yet so it's not possible to judge as "junk" at this point. I assume you are referring to the very concept of a folding phone, but if it's executed properly then I hardly consider the idea junk. I'd love to unfold a phone for a larger screen when I need one and then shut it when the cover screen works for me. I'm not saying everyone is going to need one but if only a fraction of folks do it will be a success. We'll see if Apple does it right.
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I think the use of the term ‘junk’ depends on how one defines junk. To some, for example, such an expensive phone as the iphone with limited repairability and upgradeability, sealed with glue and without a user replaceable battery could be considered as junk. From that standpoint, Apple has been selling junk for over 15 years. And because people are dumb and bought that junk like hot bread now all other manufacturers are selling the same junk and there’s no other kind of mobile phones anymore.
 
sre.live said:
I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.
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Oh look another ignorant post
 
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sre.live said:
I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.
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Absolute nonsense post...
Nothing more to add
 
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Steve Jobs apple released, and then was later sued over, the first generation iPod nano due to it having a plastic body that was extremely easy to scratch.
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Think about that. It was so easy to scratch, that they literally got sued, and lost, over it. this device was released in 2005. probably at or almost at the absolute peak of Steve’s power.
Steve also talked about his interest in folding devices in 2010 at the D8 conference.
“I’m not an expert in what it takes to make flexible displays, but a lot of people have tried and a lot of people are trying, and maybe someone will have a breakthrough. but flexible, printable displays are probably many years away.”

The idea that Steve wouldn’t follow what the market wants is just frankly absolutely ridiculous.
 
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They will release it because some people think it’s good and they buy the Samsung ones… but Apple knows it’s bad…
 
sre.live said:
I have to say if Apple actually releases a foldable iPhone, it will be the most clear sign that the company has abandoned a lot of Steve Jobs principles that got it to where it is. Foldable phones go 100% against Apple philosophy. It's the next netbook. It's a stupid gimmick that compromises design principles of durability, aesthetic and to add what? Few inches of plastic screen.
This will be the biggest sign on the wall "I'm Tim Cook, I don't know what else to create, so I've do another Newton". Apple Vision was the first product they made that while nowhere near as bad as a foldable phone, was the first device that didn't have a proper use case. And released 8 years too early. Because....investors, stock, we need to innovate? Yeah, probably. There was a lot internal resistance at Apple before the release. For a good reason. It made no sense. As a concept in the future, Apple Vision may make sense. (watch didn't have a killer app - yes, but they have pulled it off eventually, difference is tech to build a good product was there).

But foldable phone...Steve Jobs said many times "we don't ship junk". It's junk. Do you remember how nuts Steve went before original iPhone release when he scratched a prototype plastic screen? He made Corning go nuclear to retool the factory to have a glass screen before 2007. And they will ship plastic ******** for 2+ grand...?

Just genuinely sad to see company giving up on what it stood for. Slowly, gradually.
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I will assume you've never used a foldable before. I can't say I have either but this is why I'm on the fence. By most regards the Samsung and Honor lines are really good devices. In some cases it may be the only device you ever need to carry.

Vision Pro was just marketed wrong. They priced it the same as a Mac Pro and tried to sell it to iPhone users. They should have aimed for industry, healthcare and education day one.

Id recommend giving The One Device by Brian Merchant a read. Turns out Corning created Gorilla Glass in the 1990s but shelved it because they couldnt find a use for it. Jobs went to then asking if they had anything and they showed him a prototype but told him it would take a year to get it into production and he needed a 3 month turnaround!
 
I don't doubt that many will want double the screen real estate. I just doubt people will want double the cost.
 
I am seriously thinking of getting the Samsung and ditching my Iphone. My sister in law has a Samsung fold, she has had it for years without any problems. I want it so I can watch videos and go online... I may get it this weekend if it is available. My eyesight isn't what it used to be and I prefer the bigger screen. My husband did show me that Apple is coming out with their own foldable. He said that he was going to get one when it comes out. I will make sure to get the insurance so that when Apple comes out with theirs I can upgrade.
 
RSB96 said:
It depends on the user, that's for sure. A folding "book" type both by price and concept I think is very specific. I see it as having a normal phone and an iPad mini in a single device and, at least in the case of Samsung, it knows how to give software that lives up to both uses. Folded is a normal Samsung phone, but unfolded has all the features of Samsung tablets, with window management and very powerful multitasking.

If Apple releases a foldable iPhone, the least I ask is that when it unfolds we have iPadOS running, while folded it has iOS like any iPhone. If you don't have that, it would be a complete disappointment to me.

In my case, which I communicate with clients mainly via message/email, I like it because I can save and upload files to my Google Drive, where I have all my clients" files and I don't depend on anything to save documents anywhere. Having a big screen also makes it more comfortable to read long documents.

For me, a folding book style is not the same as a shell style phone. I find the former more useful than the latter.

The folding "shell" phone I see as useful for people who want to have a screen of more than 6.5," but do not want to always carry that size in their pocket, since they become uncomfortable for certain people and pants. With the exterior displays that carry the latest Razr and Flip 7, they have a perfect display for viewing messages and responding to short messages and seeing specific things without deploying it. For normal use, you deploy it and have a large device in your hand, but compact in your pocket.

However, for me, the foldable "book" phone is the most useful, since you have a normal phone, which you can use like a regular phone, and deployed you have a "mini tablet," with the advantages of having a device large enough to be able to do certain productive tasks. Obviously, it does not replace a laptop, and perhaps not a 12/14" tablet, but it is capable of replacing an 8/10" tablet, especially if it has the same software as manufacturer tablets, as is the case with Samsung.
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Cloud storage is useful for that, I use iCloud for it, and it works very well. A folding phone is useless for me since the kinds of documents I’m sending and receiving from my clients are too big. Even an 11” iPad feels too small, so using a folding phone for work would be like trying to put out a bonfire with a glass of water.

I just don’t have a use case that would make one worthwhile, let alone compelling enough to accept the compromises.
 
savanahrose said:
I am seriously thinking of getting the Samsung and ditching my Iphone. My sister in law has a Samsung fold, she has had it for years without any problems. I want it so I can watch videos and go online... I may get it this weekend if it is available. My eyesight isn't what it used to be and I prefer the bigger screen. My husband did show me that Apple is coming out with their own foldable. He said that he was going to get one when it comes out. I will make sure to get the insurance so that when Apple comes out with theirs I can upgrade.
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My wife was checking out the menu of a new nearby restaurant and commented how it's too small to read on her iPhone 15 Pro. Voilá, easily readable on my Fold6! Of course my wife could zoom in on her iPhone but it's convenient not having to zoom and scroll around with the Fold6 inner screen.

I can even read sheet music on the Fold6 while playing the piano, and documents that are shared in a Zoom or Teams meeting is easily legible too.
 
NeonNights said:
My wife was checking out the menu of a new nearby restaurant and commented how it's too small to read on her iPhone 15 Pro. Voilá, easily readable on my Fold6! Of course my wife could zoom in on her iPhone but it's convenient not having to zoom and scroll around with the Fold6 inner screen.

I can even read sheet music on the Fold6 while playing the piano, and documents that are shared in a Zoom or Teams meeting is easily legible too.
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I struggle to even read chord charts on my iPad Air 2! I want a 13” iPad so I can see what I’m supposed to be playing!
 
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