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iPhone Guided Tour and Site Redesign
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Why not just rename this site iPhoneRumors and be done?
You shouldn't be surprised. This is THE hottest tech item to come in at least a decade. Of course its going to dominate a page such as macrumors.
dont flatter yourself troll. you aren't apple's target demographic. in fact, i presume that nobody would target you for anything... ever.
anything above 2... MAYBE 3 MP's would provide VERY noisy images. The Nikon D2 is only 4.1 MPs... and it's image quality is second to only a few of the world's most exclusive cameras.
Watch your back tater, lat time I called someone a troll, Kuidang I think his name was, one of the drunk-with-power moderators banned me for two weeks!
iPhone Notes
Questions:
-What application, if any, will Notes sync to?
-Will the iPhone have an "Enable disk use" option?
-If so, will Safari be able to navigate to locally stored html files?
Questions:
-What application, if any, will Notes sync to?
-Will the iPhone have an "Enable disk use" option?
-If so, will Safari be able to navigate to locally stored html files?
I don't know if anyone else has noticed, but have you guys seen the Yahoo! logo on the bottom right corner when the Stocks widget is shown? Does this mean that Yahoo! is suppling the stock info? I thought that this would be just like the standard Mac OS X widget (which is provided by Quote.com). Or is this just a simple product placement - or should I say logo placement? Just a thought.
I think yahoo's stock data is better than quote.com. Yahoo's moves up and down every few seconds with the market where as quote.com is once every 15 minutes.
The problem would be if he doesn't have an american credit card (or, indeed, any credit card) he can't sign up.
It just means if you buy an iPhone in an Apple store you'll either have to:
a) have a US credit card
or
b) go to an AT&T bricks 'n' mortar store.
What the hect is this?? From the redesigned site:
>>>>>
iTunes Account
To set up your iPhone, youll need an account with Apples iTunes Store. If you already have an iTunes account, make sure you know your account name and password. If you dont have an account, you should set one up now to save time later. To set up an account, launch iTunes, select the iTunes Store, and click the Sign In button in the upper right corner of iTunes. Sign in and youre ready to go.
>>>>
I can't use the phone if I don't have an iTunes account? What if I can't open one cause I don't have an american issued credit card?
Actually, to have an iTunes account you don't need a credit card at all if you don't want to. You can actually pay with a PayPal account (which can be paid with a bank account number or check).
So, to re-summarise all over again:
The Good:
- Vibrate functionality
- Word, Excel, PDF readers (based on QuickLook plugins? it'd be the smart way to do it).
- Ability to change the buttons at the bottom of the screen (in the iPod section at least).
- The UI is as intuitive as we expected.
The Bad:
- Web content loaded a lot slower in this demo than previously - notice how the chequered background appeared at times in Safari? Are Apple trying to lower peoples' expectations?
- Almost certainly no MMS.
- Some inconsistencies in Multitouch: to zoom out, sometimes it's tap, sometimes double tap, sometimes it's tap with two fingers, sometimes it's stretch with two fingers. Why not just use the 'stretch' gesture for everything?
- Maybe it just wasn't visible in the video, but none of the (physical) buttons on the iPhone appear to be labelled.
- As someone said, it should have been PC guy. "Hi everyone. This is the iPhone. You're going to hate it..."
The Good:
- Vibrate functionality
- Word, Excel, PDF readers (based on QuickLook plugins? it'd be the smart way to do it).
- Ability to change the buttons at the bottom of the screen (in the iPod section at least).
- The UI is as intuitive as we expected.
The Bad:
- Web content loaded a lot slower in this demo than previously - notice how the chequered background appeared at times in Safari? Are Apple trying to lower peoples' expectations?
- Almost certainly no MMS.
- Some inconsistencies in Multitouch: to zoom out, sometimes it's tap, sometimes double tap, sometimes it's tap with two fingers, sometimes it's stretch with two fingers. Why not just use the 'stretch' gesture for everything?
- Maybe it just wasn't visible in the video, but none of the (physical) buttons on the iPhone appear to be labelled.
- As someone said, it should have been PC guy. "Hi everyone. This is the iPhone. You're going to hate it..."
Like I said in an earlier post, I really believe that a mulimedia message will show up as a link, and you can open it in Safari.
You misinterpreting the demo video... they demoed the different ways to do zooming but not all the ways in all contexts simply because they can only show so much in the video. The double tap methods zoom in and out by fixed amounts. The pinch method allows arbitrary zooming. In almost all situations I expect both to work with only the pinch zoom not available in situations when arbitrary zoom isn't possible / sensible (aka toggle between full screen and wide screen aspect ratios for video).
You dont need a credit card to have an itunes account. You know how many 12 year olds have itunes accounts?
the CC is a moot issue
Building Universal Binaries sure would be fun on the iPhone
I wouldn't mind a Terminal tho. That would make the phone very geeky tho. You have a miltitouch display and use the command line... seriously
it's not! Dammit, how many people are going to ask that?
(Sorry, admins)
There might be a 3rd party attachment tho at some point. The question is how good it can integrate with the existing apps.
That was exactly my thought when I watched the movie. PC guy could have started with a joke that he got an iPhone or something and that he has switched at least with an iPhone that has er OSX. Then present all the features. People would have easily related to the PC guy on an Apple website, thus bringing more potential Mac buyers to the apple website.
I agree that this would have been MUCH more entertaining, but it would have ben a huge mistake for them. The purpose of PC guy, is to provide an entertaining way of promoting brand awareness, and introducing the brand (or basic features of the brand) to people who may be less aware.
This video we are all talking about has a different marketing purpose, product education (and to some extent, marketing hype). The product is the focal point, and it would not only distract demo movie viewers from the point of the video, but it would convolute the purpose of PC guy. When you extend a brand with an icon like PC Guy, you must be sure that their purpose remains constant. In this case, you were hoping for PC Guy to take on a spokesperson role.
It's possible that they could pit the Apple phone product against Windows Mobile with the same two characters, however it's VERY unlikely, since Apple has set it's site on all smartphones, and a commercial depicting Blackberry, Palm-based phones, and all of the flavors of Windows Mobile would not be as easily recognized.
I do look forward to what the next wave of commercials would look like though, once the fan buyers like most of us have done the bulk of the purchasing.
Sorry about the book (above post).
One of the best? I agree but take it one step further -- I have never witnessed ANY device get this much attention from the side of the manufacturer/media/public. Never!
Take a valium.
I've been using this site for years but have never felt strongly enough to join in one of these conversations. I own a video production company in Birmingham called Atomic Pictures. www.atomicpix.com. If you doubt my varacity, go to the website and check me out. Heck, call me if you want.
My company relies daily on Apple products to produce local, regional and national commercials. My clients include national cable networks, Fortune 500 companies, and major banks. All of our office computers are Macs, we have one edit suite based around FCP, and audio suite based around Soundtrack. I run two copies of Maya on Apple computers. The only non-Apple computers we have are for high-end applications not available on Apple (Autodesk Flame and Smoke).
My first computer was an Apple IIe, then a IIgs. I've followed that up with a Power Computing clone, 4 laptops, a mini, 4 iMacs and at least 5 towers. I've recommended or purchased for others dozens more Apple computers. I've also bought 4 iPods. And you? How much of your life and business rely on Apple? How many times have you leveraged all of your assets to start a company that depended on Apple products? Your smug dismissal of my opinion is offensive.
It's very easy for this community to dismiss any negative comments as a troll or a Microsoft conspiracy but I defy anyone to prove that assertion with me. I AM their target demographic and as cool as the product appears, I'm not sold.
The iPhone looks like a great replacement for a Blackberry. I don't own a Blackberry because I don't need one. Most of us don't need one. Cool does not equate with function. I recognize that this isn't about need, it's about want. All I've said is that I'm not convinced enough to want one. That's fairly benign wouldnt you agree? Give me a compelling argument for the phone without saying cool, amazing or other immeasurable superlatives.
I disagree with the production of the video. Youve got a tool in black, shot against black talking about a black phone. Good grief. Its like a goth/ninja fest thats been scrubbed and sanitized by a corporate committee until its lost all life. The iPod commercials are some of the finest in the world. The new McCartney spot is off the hook. Did this video even come from the same company? I fell asleep watching the video. The talent is a non medicinal cure for insomnia.
Who cares if the music fades out when you have a call? That's not a selling point. Where are the WOW features that we never thought wed see in a phone? Where's the built in GPS to give me real-time driving instructions? Where is the Bluetooth connectivity with my car to put music in my stereo, to give me real-time diagnostics with the engine, to see that Im running low on gas and direct me to a station with the best price? Where is the ability to find my phone via the web if its lost or stolen? Tell me about a video projector thats coming out from a technology partner that would allow me to give a business presentation directly from my iPhone. That would be amazing. Whats amazing in this product is that there is nothing amazing.
Given the hype and anticipation, I was looking forward to something really groundbreaking, stuff we had never seen before or even dreamed of. What I wasnt expecting was just a phone with a built in music player and web browser. If we were given unrestricted access to the notes from the product development team we probably would see that there were two camps at war. One wanted to make a really cool business tool, the other wanted to make a really geeked out device aimed at younger buyers. Neither side won and they averaged the two concepts into the product were about to see. Do I think theyll sell a gazillion? Yep. Will I probably buy one? Probably. Is it worthy of all the hype? Similar hype did get us to go see Snakes on a Plane.
I welcome any of our members who wish to further discount me as a troll or flame to contact me personally.
Brian Collins, President
Atomic Pictures Inc
2700 Rogers Drive
Suite 300
Birmingham, AL 35209
(205)939-1314
brian@atomicpix.com
TROLL -- CAPITAL T... This is your ONE AND ONLY post on Macrumors and it is a total FLAME of APPLE. How do you expect anyone to take you seriously here when you create a screenname to come on the board we all love and surf daily to say all of this drivel? The 24 minute preview was actually VERY compelling. I enjoyed it a lot and told my wife -- she agreed to watch 5 minutes. She ended up watching the WHOLE thing, she was so amazed at the new device. She wants one now based on the preview you are now trashing.
I've been using this site for years but have never felt strongly enough to join in one of these conversations. I own a video production company in Birmingham called Atomic Pictures. www.atomicpix.com. If you doubt my varacity, go to the website and check me out. Heck, call me if you want.
My company relies daily on Apple products to produce local, regional and national commercials. My clients include national cable networks, Fortune 500 companies, and major banks. All of our office computers are Macs, we have one edit suite based around FCP, and audio suite based around Soundtrack. I run two copies of Maya on Apple computers. The only non-Apple computers we have are for high-end applications not available on Apple (Autodesk Flame and Smoke).
My first computer was an Apple IIe, then a IIgs. I've followed that up with a Power Computing clone, 4 laptops, a mini, 4 iMacs and at least 5 towers. I've recommended or purchased for others dozens more Apple computers. I've also bought 4 iPods. And you? How much of your life and business rely on Apple? How many times have you leveraged all of your assets to start a company that depended on Apple products? Your smug dismissal of my opinion is offensive.
It's very easy for this community to dismiss any negative comments as a troll or a Microsoft conspiracy but I defy anyone to prove that assertion with me. I AM their target demographic and as cool as the product appears, I'm not sold.
The iPhone looks like a great replacement for a Blackberry. I don't own a Blackberry because I don't need one. Most of us don't need one. Cool does not equate with function. I recognize that this isn't about need, it's about want. All I've said is that I'm not convinced enough to want one. That's fairly benign wouldnt you agree? Give me a compelling argument for the phone without saying cool, amazing or other immeasurable superlatives.
I disagree with the production of the video. Youve got a tool in black, shot against black talking about a black phone. Good grief. Its like a goth/ninja fest thats been scrubbed and sanitized by a corporate committee until its lost all life. The iPod commercials are some of the finest in the world. The new McCartney spot is off the hook. Did this video even come from the same company? I fell asleep watching the video. The talent is a non medicinal cure for insomnia.
Who cares if the music fades out when you have a call? That's not a selling point. Where are the WOW features that we never thought wed see in a phone? Where's the built in GPS to give me real-time driving instructions? Where is the Bluetooth connectivity with my car to put music in my stereo, to give me real-time diagnostics with the engine, to see that Im running low on gas and direct me to a station with the best price? Where is the ability to find my phone via the web if its lost or stolen? Tell me about a video projector thats coming out from a technology partner that would allow me to give a business presentation directly from my iPhone. That would be amazing. Whats amazing in this product is that there is nothing amazing.
Given the hype and anticipation, I was looking forward to something really groundbreaking, stuff we had never seen before or even dreamed of. What I wasnt expecting was just a phone with a built in music player and web browser. If we were given unrestricted access to the notes from the product development team we probably would see that there were two camps at war. One wanted to make a really cool business tool, the other wanted to make a really geeked out device aimed at younger buyers. Neither side won and they averaged the two concepts into the product were about to see. Do I think theyll sell a gazillion? Yep. Will I probably buy one? Probably. Is it worthy of all the hype? Similar hype did get us to go see Snakes on a Plane.
I welcome any of our members who wish to further discount me as a troll or flame to contact me personally.
Brian Collins, President
Atomic Pictures Inc
2700 Rogers Drive
Suite 300
Birmingham, AL 35209
(205)939-1314
brian@atomicpix.com
Wow. That's a lot of time and effort to justify why you don't want or need an iPhone (or a BlackBerry). One less person in line!
Absolutely amazing!
Only Apple can give its competitors a 6-month head start on what it will introduce and still managed to blow everything else in existence away with superior features and functionality. To those who said they would never do business with Applearrogance or that they are not worried about it grabbing marketshare or who feel the product is useless without buttons, the forks are in the top left drawer.
I know this is a version-one product but Apple has done a remarkable job at making it worthwhile for early adopters -- all ten million of them.
Only Apple can give its competitors a 6-month head start on what it will introduce and still managed to blow everything else in existence away with superior features and functionality. To those who said they would never do business with Applearrogance or that they are not worried about it grabbing marketshare or who feel the product is useless without buttons, the forks are in the top left drawer.
I know this is a version-one product but Apple has done a remarkable job at making it worthwhile for early adopters -- all ten million of them.
MP3 players were not revolutionized by the iPod playing MP3s. It was the interface and the user experience that made iPod the product that it is. I'm amazed that people expect so many features from a 1st Gen device, when all that Apple appears to be doing is entering the market with an improved way of doing what others have been trying to do.
It won't appeal to everyone, it won't even appeal to all Apple people (especially those that have been into Apple because of industry rather than personal taste, lifestyle integration or other individual reasons), but for people that have been frustrated with the way some of the competition has implemented features, this may be the answer for THOSE people. I for one, love the Blackberry 8100's 'Pearl', but I hate the shared keys keyboard. I hate scroll-wheels, and I don't like how clunky getting media on the phone is on almost all of them. I look forward to the iPhone because for ME it has simplified many of those things to work in a way that I'd expect an Apple product to work. Even if it's a 'new' way of controlling it.
Innovation... what's so innovative? Multi-touch. Nothing else HAS to be innovative about it. Why is it more than a 'cool' feature? Use it for 3 months, and let's see. Maybe it will be speed, maybe it will be memorized accuracy. I'm betting that by breaking the mold, they are at very LEAST pioneering the prospect that there are better ways to do things than the same old same old. Remember when trackpads were stupid on laptops?
It won't appeal to everyone, it won't even appeal to all Apple people (especially those that have been into Apple because of industry rather than personal taste, lifestyle integration or other individual reasons), but for people that have been frustrated with the way some of the competition has implemented features, this may be the answer for THOSE people. I for one, love the Blackberry 8100's 'Pearl', but I hate the shared keys keyboard. I hate scroll-wheels, and I don't like how clunky getting media on the phone is on almost all of them. I look forward to the iPhone because for ME it has simplified many of those things to work in a way that I'd expect an Apple product to work. Even if it's a 'new' way of controlling it.
Innovation... what's so innovative? Multi-touch. Nothing else HAS to be innovative about it. Why is it more than a 'cool' feature? Use it for 3 months, and let's see. Maybe it will be speed, maybe it will be memorized accuracy. I'm betting that by breaking the mold, they are at very LEAST pioneering the prospect that there are better ways to do things than the same old same old. Remember when trackpads were stupid on laptops?
Not in this case...The iPhone battery will be like iPod battery. Following is what Apple says (iPod battery support FAQ)about charge cycles.
"Question: What is a "charge cycle"?
Answer: Lithium-ion batteries can be charged a finite number of times, as defined by charge cycle. A charge cycle means using all of the battery's power, but that doesn't necessarily mean a single charge. For instance, you could listen to your iPod for a few hours one day, using half its power, and then recharge it fully. If you did the same thing the next day, it would count as one charge cycle, not two, so you may take several days to complete a cycle. Each time you complete a charge cycle, it diminishes battery capacity slightly, but you can put your iPod's battery through many charge cycles before it will only hold 80 percent of its original battery capacity."