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iPhone + Highschool = BAD!

One kid I know is pretty spoiled. I went to borrow his 80 GB iPod. He happened to have 2 TV shows (one of which was Sponge Bob) and I think he had around 35-40 songs. Also, he got a ROKR when it first came out then showed it off to everyone. Got it stolen 1 week later.

Anyways, I think it would be harder to cheat using an iPhone than most other phones since it doesn't have real buttons.
 
chriscorbin said:
In some schools such as mine they have installed jammers that block all cell phone connections no cell secrivce no internet
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In the US, Cell Phone Jammers are illegal to operate, manufacture, import, or offer for sale with fines of up to $11,000 and imprisonment of up to a year. So unless you're overseas in a few places that do actually allow them, you must be mistaken.
 
chriscorbin said:
In some schools such as mine they have installed jammers that block all cell phone connections no cell secrivce no internet
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If they did that, it's illegal like drichx said. It could just be that the building has enough metal and concrete in it to block the signal.
 
My math teacher, for example, has everyone put their cellphone on her desk at the beginning of every lesson, not only during tests, and requires that all of them be shut off, so as not to have one of them ringing during class. Oh, and they all have to be aligned and positioned towards her viewing angle, so she can quickly check if they're all turned off.

She keeps a list with every class she teaches at and how many people have cell phones, so she knows if someone didn't put theirs on the desk.
At the beginning of the current school year, she kind of scrapped the list thing, since everyone has a cell phone now. It's been over 3 years since she started doing this.
Parents generally don't complain, and see this as a good move on her part.

It hasn't caused any trouble.

Would this even work in other places? I haven't heard of this kind of thing being done elsewhere, and I don't know why. Would people complain and/or try to sabotage the teacher, so teachers don't risk this? Is it considered more of a risk for something bad happening to people's cellphones? Are there laws banning anything of this sort?
 
dominicansrul93 said:
I am in middle school and I already see people texting during class. I go to a private school and they confiscate and give it back at the end of the years and still people never get caught. I have a sidekick 3 and it can go on most websites without wifi.
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i do it(texting) when im sick and since our nurse isnt very helpful when you're sick.. :rolleyes: and plus nobody ever thinks about the kids who have some or all honors classes(like me with the all part) that we ever txt during classes.(truth is since a lot of us jocks and the popular kids **i dont consider me one just because i hang out with them**) but we text and use the internet all the time (but im the only one with the internet part and it was only for MWSF..:p :cool: :cool:
Sorry for the rant**and i am in middle school too** And once again i notice a rant a lot
 
The iPhone wouldn't present any more worries for teachers than the current cell phones. Kids already text, browse the internet and cheat using those things during class all the time...

Nothing new here... move along.
 
drichx said:
In the US, Cell Phone Jammers are illegal to operate, manufacture, import, or offer for sale with fines of up to $11,000 and imprisonment of up to a year. So unless you're overseas in a few places that do actually allow them, you must be mistaken.
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I dont know about that, there are some movie theaters here that have something blocking cell service because you cant receive or make calls when sitting in your seat.
 
If someone is enough of a genius to cheat with an iPhone without being detected, he's obviously at least as intelligent as the students sweating out a high school test :p

I don't understand the problem with cheating. Are we afraid some kid's going to get prematurely promoted to lead jizzmopper because of his supervisor thinks the kid really comprehended the Dreyfus Affair?
 
I had a Palmphone when I was 17 and going to college (early graduation). I bought it with money I earned from working and doing freelance stuff. I wasn't spoiled. But generally, in high school in America, if you're caught using your phone, you'll be asked to put it away, and upon refusal, given a referral to your dean of students for behavior, and those have progressive consequences as well as placement in your permanent file. Confiscation is not really an option, nor does it make much sense. Anyway, just like in college, if you're caught with one at a test, it's an automatic zero (test, possibly whole course grade), probation, possible class removal or school expulsion. That's how it should be. Cheating is so dumb... just apply yourself.
 
I cheated just fine in a geography test without an iPhone.

Actually it was in 1998. I scrawled the name "Mesopotamia" on the inside of my pencil case, but we had to hand them all in! So when it came to the exam I had that name embedded into my brain.

I don't think many high school folk will be getting an iPhone ;) 11-16 year olds with £400 phones?
 
kalisphoenix said:
If someone is enough of a genius to cheat with an iPhone without being detected, he's obviously at least as intelligent as the students sweating out a high school test :p

I don't understand the problem with cheating. Are we afraid some kid's going to get prematurely promoted to lead jizzmopper because of his supervisor thinks the kid really comprehended the Dreyfus Affair?
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problem with cheating is it prevents one from showing how much they learned. Based on your statement you are one of those asses who does cheat.

I wish I could say cheater never prospers but that not true. To many cheaters in this world have gotten away with it. But then of course you have others who get caught and thrown there happy asses in Jail. Can any one say Enron?

Biggest part is cheating shows a problem in worth ethic and ethics in general and general make for a poorer employee because ethics plays a large part in the bussiness world. have poor ethical habits and a lot of companies will not work with you.
 
drichx said:
In the US, Cell Phone Jammers are illegal to operate, manufacture, import, or offer for sale with fines of up to $11,000 and imprisonment of up to a year. So unless you're overseas in a few places that do actually allow them, you must be mistaken.
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mikes63737 said:
If they did that, it's illegal like drichx said. It could just be that the building has enough metal and concrete in it to block the signal.
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Schools have certain exemptions from laws about freespeech/communications, perhaps they are also, allowed to block communication devices not limited to the vocal box?
 
iJawn108 said:
Wow your schools actually have wifi? :eek:

What's the need ? I could see it being used for networking a teachers machine but there's no reason for having it. Schools have computer labs, ethernet works fine for that. University is a whole other ball game though.
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Without Wifi, the iBook carts that got wheeled from classroom to classroom in my old school just wouldn't have made as much sense :) .
 
xlosltove777 said:
Kids that would get an iPhone would probably get a 30GB iPod and a nice phone, which could easily match the price of the iPhone. While the iPhone doesn't have the same capacity, most kids get the 30GB iPod just because its more expensive than the nano's and they want that.
As far as cell phone rules. My old school in NY if you where ven caught looking at the time(clocks aren't always functioning or to far in places like cafeteria) you'd get it taken away. During a test automatic zero and it's taken away. During statewide Regents exams, you get summer school. Now in Massachussets you can take it out whenever the teacher isn't teaching/test. Kids pop out their sidekciks and Helios all the time and go online.
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As far as I know, that is not the case, here in the Winch, you can't use cell phones, iPods/MP3, cd players (pfft who uses those anyway) or any other electronic device unless you have a nice study teacher, or like my health teacher who give you the last 25 minutes of class to do whatever.
 
AutumnSkyline said:
... or like my health teacher who give you the last 25 minutes of class to do whatever.
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really healthy :rolleyes:

Anyway, lots of children here have phones, but there's no need to use one in class. Just wait until the end? As for cheating in exams - using a phone - not worth it.

Writing on a calculator/pencil case - give it a go if you dare. It really isn't worth it again. If you then get a job/progress to university, you don't really know what you're doing/talking about and should have worked harder or done something else.

Enough rambling. USA is so different to many places...
 
I got some more info helping my point a litte. I read an in the new papaer how SC will be the first sate in the USA to have WIFI over the state for free. So now a kid in class can go any where on the web without a password for the schools WIFI.
 
koobcamuk said:
really healthy :rolleyes:

Anyway, lots of children here have phones, but there's no need to use one in class. Just wait until the end? As for cheating in exams - using a phone - not worth it.

Writing on a calculator/pencil case - give it a go if you dare. It really isn't worth it again. If you then get a job/progress to university, you don't really know what you're doing/talking about and should have worked harder or done something else.

Enough rambling. USA is so different to many places...
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hehe, I know especially since we only have 50 min classes
 
A graphing calculator was all you needed in high school, they let you put in full text AND you could lock the notes so even when the teachers told you to clear it, it still saved it. Helped me like crazy when I had to remember the formulas in math 12....

But in university they would expel the hell outta you if you got caught, they don't let you use them anyway, so the cheating days are over, but I don't take math since it is evil and it would be hard to fit a history essay in a calculator so good ol' reading and studying is the way to go.
 
Bill Gates said:
The schools simply need to be more proactive and give teachers the authority to confiscate (until parents pick it up) cell phones that are used during class. For that matter, middle schoolers shouldn't even have cell phones to begin with, so I'd ban them all together.
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Get with the times, man. I know 4th graders who have cell phones. I'm in 8th grade and I have a razr. Everybody 6th grade and up has a cell phone.
 
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