I am done wasting my time with you. You have nothing to back up your claims, and I have seen no one say the same things you have.
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I am done wasting my time with you. You have nothing to back up your claims, and I have seen no one say the same things you have.
And I thought you might have been a sensible one ...
Feel free to run away
How am I not sensible? You are the one that told me I was not reading your post. I was I tested just what you said. I did not have the issue at all. I see no lag in the nexus 4. I am sensible I just don't think you have a sensible argument. If this is true show me some kind of evidence. You are truly the only person I have ever heard say this.
How did Michael say the same thing?
You seem to be fixated entirely on the most insignificant part of my post. The fact that my N4 lags when you wiggle a finger over the home screen is insignificant even if it applies to all N4's. It's just a simple way to see that my N4 is not some monster that's immune to lag. Mine's stock and about 5 or 6 months old - Got it right when the second batch became available in the US. Perhaps the hardware has changed a bit since then??? I'll stop in a T-mobile and see if I can test it on another unit.
My main point is that I notice that iOS provides an overall better level of smoothness than I get from Android on the devices I own. It's not very significant ... bit I notice it. That's pretty much the same thing Michael was hinting at. Lag is something that has just recently improved greatly on Android (or so I hear ...).
That, plus things like bounce back provide a more pleasant subject experience for me in dealing with the UI. None of this makes the N4, or Android anything near "unusable" -- I have no plan for selling my N4 -- I'm looking forward to KLP!
The one area where I have found a significant problem is dealing with long documents in Android. If someone knows a good PDF reader, or word processor for handling long (200 -300+ pages), I'd be glad to hear about it.
The post I original quoted you on was only about lag and moving your finger back and forth. That is the only reason I am still talking about it. I have not even looked at your post about PDFs.
Your memory seems to be playing tricks on you ( the center line was a parody of another posters "obnoxious snob hyperbole" -- for entertainment purposes only
):Originally Posted by knucklehead
My Nexus 4 isn't as smooth as my iPod Touch 5, which is a generation behind the iPhone 5 processor wise. You can just go to the home screen and wiggle your finger back and forth, and the N4 lags following your finger like it's had a drink or two too many and shouldn't be allowed to drive home. I think a lot of the "smoothness" impression of the UI comes from things like the bounce back feature of iOS - it's simply more pleasant to use than hitting the jarring stop in Android. I don't consider the N4 Ui overly laggy, just not as consistently smooth as my Touch 5.
... of course some people might just have lower standards, and be perfectly content with a lesser user experience ...
One area where I've found Android to be actually bad at, is dealing with long documents. I haven't found an android PDF reader or word processor that handles scrolling or navigating to a point in long documents well at all. Perhaps KLP, better apps, or the current generation of Android super phones just being released will be better at this.
I have never experienced lag like what you are talking about on the home screens. Do you have some kind of crazy live wallpaper or something? What kind of widgets are you using? There should be no lag. I for one never had this issue.
Your memory seems to be playing tricks on you ( the center line was a parody of another posters "obnoxious snob hyperbole" -- for entertainment purposes only
Originally Posted by knucklehead
My Nexus 4 isn't as smooth as my iPod Touch 5, which is a generation behind the iPhone 5 processor wise. You can just go to the home screen and wiggle your finger back and forth, and the N4 lags following your finger like it's had a drink or two too many and shouldn't be allowed to drive home. I think a lot of the "smoothness" impression of the UI comes from things like the bounce back feature of iOS - it's simply more pleasant to use than hitting the jarring stop in Android. I don't consider the N4 Ui overly laggy, just not as consistently smooth as my Touch 5.
... of course some people might just have lower standards, and be perfectly content with a lesser user experience ...
One area where I've found Android to be actually bad at, is dealing with long documents. I haven't found an android PDF reader or word processor that handles scrolling or navigating to a point in long documents well at all. Perhaps KLP, better apps, or the current generation of Android super phones just being released will be better at this.
I have never experienced lag like what you are talking about on the home screens. Do you have some kind of crazy live wallpaper or something? What kind of widgets are you using? There should be no lag. I for one never had this issue.
I am really not sure what you want me to say. I have not been reading you post about wanting something to read long PDFs. I am not planning on commenting on that cause I could care less about it. Nor do I ever read long PDFs on a android or iOS device.
Also I guess you are trying to get into an argument about android still having lag and iOS is smoother. I am not going to get into that. I think that has been discussed way to much. I will stick to my OP. I do not have lag with my android device, and I think it does just as well as my iPhone 5 did. You can believe what you want to I could care less.
Smoothness is a form over function feature Android will never have in comparison to iOS. UI is prioritized over everything else. Do your test on a busy web page in iOS before its done loading. Until you stop the web page won't/can't load. Its easy to bring out the smoothness when its the only thing the device is focusing on. Android meanwhile will continue to load the web page.
As far as PDF's I've never had an issue with quickoffice. But I don't typically deal with 100+ page PDF files. What I would LOVE is an email app that could email more then one PDF file in a single email in iOS!
As several others have stated, my Nexus 4 is quite smooth and is quite fast and doesn't have lag issues. If you have to go out of your way to try to find or create a problem, then perhaps there really isn't a problem.
ooook...I'm against choice and preference? When have I ever said people should not have a choice or preference? I even went as far as to state why the iPhone works well for some people... Perhaps you may want to go back and actually read what I wrote, before drawing baseless conclusions.
Ditto. He's REALLY reaching there.
Same here. It is hands down the fastest phone I've used...and to be clear, I have used/had an iPhone 5.
Exact same reaction I had when I read that lol. He's really reaching.
I totally agree. This is why I don't consider the iPhone 5 to be a top 5 phone. I think there are several phones that are better than it, and that number continues to grow.
As several others have stated, my Nexus 4 is quite smooth and is quite fast and doesn't have lag issues. If you have to go out of your way to try to find or create a problem, then perhaps there really isn't a problem.
FWIW, go and read some Android forums: xda, androidcentral, androidpolice. They all describe the Nexus 4 as some lag, but not the worst, definitely something you can live with. Even the GS3 and Note 2 suffer. You can be delusional all you want, hey I own a GS3 and even I notice a bit of lag when I was using Touchwiz. A lot less on CM.
What has Apple done with the iPhone in the last few years that was innovative?
I like the Do Not Disturb mode with selective filtering of calls. Or did someone else invent that earlier?
You want to quote some post about people having lag issues with the nexus 4? I am a long time member of androidforums.com, and I post on the nexus 4 section all the time. I see no one talking about lag. The only time I have my nexus 4 slow down is when I am using the Tapatalk app. It seems to take a minute to load, but it does the same thing on my iPhone 5.
The only time I notice a small bit of lag on the nexus 4 is when I try to scroll through the app drawer as fast as I can. I cannot compare this to an iphone b.c there is no app drawer and the home screens can only go so fast.
Careful! Statements like that can send some folks into spasms around here.
I guess I could argue with how you define what things you associate with "form", and what you associate with "function". I consider myself as the user to be primarily important in the device/user relationship, and how the the interface responds to me matters. For instance, if I'm scrolling through a page, it's because I want to be scrolling through the page - devoting resources to something like animating a GIF while I'm scrolling away from it seems frivolous.
I'm also not sure that it's right to say that Android will never have iOS's smoothness. The difference isn't that large right now (some claim not to notice it), and it will continue to diminish as devices become more powerful.
I'll check out Quickoffice when I get the chance. Thanks!
There's been an assortment of apps that can function the same way as do not disturb. Actually a bit better, certain ones you can set not only times but DAYS. So mon - fri it works sat - sun it's off. You can even set some to automatically send a text message to someone that calls you when it's on like "in a meeting" or something.
I'm not sure. I'm an iPhone user, I've just seen it on friends phones.
If you are asking if Apple created the idea then no. I had an LG dumb phone with an option to silence and not light up but still show missed calls and text when I turned on. However I don't think I could schedule it.
Edit. I forgot about "Tasker" for Android. That's been around for quite awhile.
years ago I had an iphone 3g and once a friend of mine showed me his nexus I was sold. I switched over to android about 5 years ago and never looked back. I love android, like my freedom of doing what I want, I can install what ever I want and expandable memory which was very important me also pull/replace my battery if needed. No more need of having to find an apple store and making an appointment for a bad battery lol or stuck button. iTunes drove me crazy with the syncing and having to change settings when wanting to add music from another computer. Im just really happy with my freedom with my Android running jellybean and battery is great no complaints. I'll admit when android first launched battery life was horrible but now I can go all day and then some with normal use.