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Looks like you're right. I just got off the phone with Apple Support and they confirmed it. Bummer. Thanks for your response on this. Anyone know if this was new for 3.1.2? When my phone was at 3.0 I don't remember it doing this but it's possible I just missed it.

I bought a 3G and it's always been a feature since I got it. So I can vouch for since 2.0. I'm pretty sure it's always though.

It's the main reason jailbreakers have used software like Insomnia. :D
 
Looks like you're right. I just got off the phone with Apple Support and they confirmed it. Bummer. Thanks for your response on this. Anyone know if this was new for 3.1.2? When my phone was at 3.0 I don't remember it doing this but it's possible I just missed it.

This has been a "feature" for as long as I've owned an iPhone, so since 3.0. They could easily fix this by making it an option in the Settings to toggle on or off.
 
Wifi goes off when not using??

Hmm .. i just notice that my wifi will go to Edge after it automatically 1min lock. After I slide to unlock, it shows Edge and like 30 seconds, it goes back to Wifi. It does not bug me because i think it saves battery but I dont remember seeing this happening in previous OS.
 
Hmm .. i just notice that my wifi will go to Edge after it automatically 1min lock. After I slide to unlock, it shows Edge and like 30 seconds, it goes back to Wifi. It does not bug me because i think it saves battery but I dont remember seeing this happening in previous OS.

Did you read the rest of the thread? The last few posts were about exactly this.
 
I just updated to 3.1.2 again to mess with it again.

I'll admit, it's faster and smoother than all previous 3.x versions, but still not as smooth as 2.2.1. It still stutters with some app launching animations and bringing up the keyboard etc.

Scrolling in Mail got smoother.
Scrolling text messages and sending texts looks smoother now.
Launching apps isn't as choppy now. Mail still doesn't like showing the icons fly away sometimes.

Once you play around with it for a while and get everything loaded into cache, it's better, but once that cache gets filled up it slows down again.

It's getting better, but it's not quite 2.2.1 yet.

Here's hoping that 3.2 is amazing! Don't let us down Apple!
 
A lot of us had some major problems with 3.1 and I for one would have loved to seen the benefits and pitfalls prior to updating. I've decided to create and maintain this thread where everyone can list any improvements they notice and any bugs they notice as well.

**UPDATE**

So i've been on 3.1.2 for a full day now and the improvements are dramatic for me. I did a full clean install, setting it up as a new phone and everything is running great. Apart from the obvious fix of the "Coma" issue which I was personally having multiple times a day, my battery life has been outstanding! I'm just amazed by it, with 3.1.1 I was unable to go a few hours without having to charge, i've been using my phone the way I always do for about six hours and I have about 95% batter life still. If anyone is still on the wall on if you should upgrade or not, i'll give you my final advice at the bottom.

IMPROVEMENTS
- Fixes iPhone "Coma" issue
- Fixes iPhone network reception problems
- Some reports of better 3G signal strength
- Comes with AT&T Carrier 5.6
- Speeds up MMS sending
- Allows VoIP over 3G​
- Improves Battery Life Dramatically
- iPhone OS reportedly runs "smoother"
- Scrolling appears smoother
- Safari seems "snappier"

BUGS
- SMS audible notification issues still remain
- Smart playlists are not working properly
- According to TheSpaz it is still not as smooth as 2.2.1

OTHER UNCLASSIFIABLE CHANGES
- AT&T Carrier 5.6 removes the section under "Usage" that keeps a record of Tethering Data.
- Keyboard Click Sound seems quieter to some.

IF YOU'RE STILL HAVING MAJOR PROBLEMS WITH OS 3.1.2

- Make sure you set your phone up as a new phone when you installed the new OS, not restored from a backup.
- If you restore from a backup you risk porting over your problems with the backup.​

FINAL RECOMMENDATION
- If you have been having problems with 3.1.1 including battery problems, iPhone "Coma", Signal Problems, then upgrade.
- If you have not been having any problems with 3.1.1 then stay put, why mess with it if it's working fine?


How do you do this? I thought it would be by doing a restore. I guess I was wrong. Can someone explain this to me?

- Make sure you set your phone up as a new phone when you installed the new OS, not restored from a backup"
 
How do you do this? I thought it would be by doing a restore. I guess I was wrong. Can someone explain this to me?

- Make sure you set your phone up as a new phone when you installed the new OS, not restored from a backup"

Hold down the home button when plugging your phone into the computer and it should come up and say it found an iPhone in recovery mode.

Then you can recover it. When it gives you the option to set up as new or from a backup, chose new.
 
How do you do this? I thought it would be by doing a restore. I guess I was wrong. Can someone explain this to me?

- Make sure you set your phone up as a new phone when you installed the new OS, not restored from a backup"

After you do a restore, everything on your phone will be wiped out. After the restore iTunes will detect the phone, seeing as everything is wiped out, it will ask you if you would like to setup as new or restore from backup. This restore from backup will restore settings and SMSs to the phone.
 
bug

I found a bug in simplified Chinese.
The covers of random albums come up repeatly.
 

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Hi Folks,

I think that here there are lots of misundertoods, so I will explain my own experience, with enough details to be able to compare "Apples with Apples", fine?

Well, I used two iPhones for my comparison:

1) iPhone 3G-16GB with FW 2.2.1 (not jailbreaked neither hacked in any way)
1) iPhone 3G-16GB with FW 3.1.2 (not jailbreaked neither hacked in any way)

Then, I was running several aplications in both, and you know what? :confused:

I DIDN´T SEE ANY DIFFERENCE AT ALL! :eek:

All the applications that come with the iPhone OS were equally fast: Contacts, Camera, Calendar, iPod, App Store,... well in fact Safary was FASTER on the FW3.1.2. :D

So, although the iPhone 3G with FW 2.2.1 was mine, and the iPhone 3G with FW 3.1.2 from a friend,... you know what? I am going to upgrade my iPhone 3G to the FW 3.1.2 after waiting a long time because after checking both in my hands, I didn´t see a good reason to not do it at all. ;)

Finally, whenever do you want to explain your own experience, please, indicate which iPhone you have (2G/3G/3GS) and if it has been jailbroken or hacked in any way, because of course, the performance will never be the same. So try to avoid comparisons between the 3G and the 3GS, and even between hacked, or not, iPhones.

Thanks & Cheers! :apple:
 
So if i do a full restore (as new) i will loose all my SMS history? Is that correct? If so do yu know a way to save SMS/MMS on your mac...i'd really like to keep that history.
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So if i do a full restore (as new) i will loose all my SMS history? Is that correct? If so do yu know a way to save SMS/MMS on your mac...i'd really like to keep that history.
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Yes, if you do a full restore ( set up as a new phone ) you will lose all of your messages. I'm not aware of any way to save those messages officially, but you could always e-mail them to yourself or take screen captures of the ones you want to keep and import the photos.
 
So, at the end is it not clear that the iPhone 3G with FW 3.1.2 is slower than with FW 2.2.1? :confused:

(Of course, forget to compare with iPhone 3GS because this one is faster :p)
 
So, at the end is it not clear that the iPhone 3G with FW 3.1.2 is slower than with FW 2.2.1? :confused:

I've been back and forth between 2.2.1 and every single 3.x version and 3.1.2 is STILL not as smooth as 2.2.1.

I'm on 2.2.1 right now as we speak. It was the last perfect software version for the non-3GS iPhone.
 
I've been back and forth between 2.2.1 and every single 3.x version and 3.1.2 is STILL not as smooth as 2.2.1.

I'm on 2.2.1 right now as we speak. It was the last perfect software version for the non-3GS iPhone.

I honestly never saw any slow down after updating to 3.X. I'm on a 3G. Maybe I'll show you a screen video for you to let me know what kind of stuttering you're referring to.
 
I honestly never saw any slow down after updating to 3.X. I'm on a 3G. Maybe I'll show you a screen video for you to let me know what kind of stuttering you're referring to.

Mostly opening things like Mail, Notes, Voice Memos. It's not always a smooth motion. Sometimes the homescreen icons just disappear instead of flying away and sometimes it's smooth. Mail is the worst though. I posted a couple videos in another thread.

It all comes down to how sensitive you are to that kind of stuff. I hate jerky graphics and what's even worse is when the iPhone will skip the first few frames of the animation all together, making it look stupid.

The other thing is when you're opening the keyboard in Messages.app. It's really jerky on the way up... why can't it be smooth like it was in 2.2.1?

Also, even navigating in iPod is laggy. I'll tap on songs, and it takes a few seconds... what the heck?

All of this adds up to frustration for me because I was used to an iPhone that worked nicely and had a great user experience. 3.x degraded the user experience *for me* and I'd rather be happily on 2.2.1 than 3.1.2. That's what it boils down to mainly... personal hatred toward gittery graphics performance.

Also, this bothers me (still isn't fixed):
 

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Mostly opening things like Mail, Notes, Voice Memos. It's not always a smooth motion. Sometimes the homescreen icons just disappear instead of flying away and sometimes it's smooth. Mail is the worst though. I posted a couple videos in another thread.

It all comes down to how sensitive you are to that kind of stuff. I hate jerky graphics and what's even worse is when the iPhone will skip the first few frames of the animation all together, making it look stupid.

The other thing is when you're opening the keyboard in Messages.app. It's really jerky on the way up... why can't it be smooth like it was in 2.2.1?

Also, even navigating in iPod is laggy. I'll tap on songs, and it takes a few seconds... what the heck?

All of this adds up to frustration for me because I was used to an iPhone that worked nicely and had a great user experience. 3.x degraded the user experience *for me* and I'd rather be happily on 2.2.1 than 3.1.2. That's what it boils down to mainly... personal hatred toward gittery graphics performance.

Also, this bothers me (still isn't fixed):

Weird... Where is that image at the bottom from?

Also, my keyboard in mail comes up totally smooth. Whatever though. If it runs smoother for you on 2.X then go for it. If I was having the same issues I'd probably do the same. I do all my theming with SSH just to avoid ANY kind of stutters at all.
 
Weird... Where is that image at the bottom from?

Also, my keyboard in mail comes up totally smooth. Whatever though. If it runs smoother for you on 2.X then go for it. If I was having the same issues I'd probably do the same. I do all my theming with SSH just to avoid ANY kind of stutters at all.

Couple of things:

1. I said the keyboard stutters when bringing it up in Messages.app
2. I didn't jailbreak, so I'm not running any themes or extra crap
3. The screenshot animation is from Maps.app, but you can also find the same glitch wherever there are joined buttons like that such as App Store, iTunes Store, Calendar, Phone... etc. Basically any app that uses the joined toggle buttons.

However, my findings don't matter anyway because everyone else says "3.1.2 runs fine on my iPhone 3G". Meaning, it runs the way I describe, but they don't notice or they don't care.

2.2.1 is the smoothest OS for the iPhone 3G.
 
Couple of things:

1. I said the keyboard stutters when bringing it up in Messages.app
2. I didn't jailbreak, so I'm not running any themes or extra crap
3. The screenshot animation is from Maps.app, but you can also find the same glitch wherever there are joined buttons like that such as App Store, iTunes Store, Calendar, Phone... etc. Basically any app that uses the joined toggle buttons.

However, my findings don't matter anyway because everyone else says "3.1.2 runs fine on my iPhone 3G". Meaning, it runs the way I describe, but they don't notice or they don't care.

2.2.1 is the smoothest OS for the iPhone 3G.

Sorry. I missread... Case is still the same. There is NO stutter for me in Messages either.

Also, the jointed button thing confuses me...

So it's different on 3G and 3Gs? I don't have both phones so... I don't know why that would make a difference.

Also, jsut because it runs like that on YOUR phone doesn't mean that it does on everyone elses and we just don't notice it. It DOESN'T act that way on my phone. I'm very sensitive as well. My point of mentioning the jailbreak is that I AM sensitive to these stutters and will remove anything that causes them. It is not happening on my phone. Trust me.
 
Sorry, I was worng and I admit it now :(.

I am agree with TheSpaz. I though that FW 3.1.2 would be fine for my iPhone 3G,... but I was wrong :(.

Now the system is laggy and more slower :eek:.

So guys, don't be hard with him, because he is right. And it is not a problem of jailbroken phones, because mine is not. It is because the FW 3.x it is not tunned for the iPhone 3G.

Then, I wonder why Apple directly tells that, avoiding headaches to the users.

I would never udgraded if Apple told me that the FW 3.1.2 is not tunned for my device. At least we should know it. This is like when the games tell you which kind of machine is "minimum" or "recomended" for your machine.

I hope they solve the problem.
 
I don't think the hard time given him has much to do with him being right or wrong.

They give me a hard time because I'm picky and make a big deal out of little things that nobody else cares about.

So I care about how well my iPhone runs. Oh, also... I hate it when people thing I'm imagining things. I have more than one iPhone and I can test different versions of firmwares on them and almost all of my friends have iPhones and I've used theirs too. I know what I see and I know what I like. I like 2.2.1 and I'm staying here until 3.x is up to my standards.
 
I am totally agree with you TheSpaz :cool:.

Unfortunately, the FW 3.x is not ready for the iPhone 3G, compared with the FW 2.2.1 :(.

Anyway, do you know an easy way to downgrade from 3.1.2 to 2.2.1 without jailbreaking the iPhone 3G firstly? :confused:

Secondly, will be compatible my backup from the 3.1.2 to the 2.2.1,... or you directly didn't restore your iPhone with the backup when you downgraded? :confused:

Thanks!!!
 
I just discovered a new bug of the FW 3.1.2 in my iPhone 3G. Basically, it gets stucked for 1 or 2 seconds in the unlocking screen after pressing the HOME/POWER buttons to turn on it from Standby.

You can check it because the typical animation of the UNLOCKING slider gets stucked for that time. :eek:

Curiously, this only happens after some time of standby, but not the second, third time just after you entered :confused:

Anyone suffer the same issue? :confused:

(I already checked in an iPod Touch 1gen and iPhone 3GS and they don't suffer this issue :()

Thanks!!!
 
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