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Applejuiced

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At the iPhone hacks section.
No jailbreak on any of them. Iphone 5 crashed on iOS 6 springboard and I couldn't even force restart it, when upgraded to iOS 7 it was the worst nightmare I had, the phone basically shut off for no reason with 60% 30% or 15% battery left. iPhone 6 crashed multiple times while using the camera on iOS 8 (brand new), the performance became awfully bad with iOS, games run slugish, the UI lags and not to speak of the battery issues this phone gave me on since the iOS 10 update.

So yeah my experience with iOS is not the same as many others here.

Those are usually software bugs. Or you had a defective device.
Apple will have you restore and setup as new and if it continues they will replace it.
If you want to continue to restore from old faulty backup files that's on you.
 
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Yeah, that's surprising. The great thing about Apple is, you take it into the store and if it's the phone's fault and you get a nice "genius" they'll replace it for you. I know the 5 had some battery problems that Apple later replaced for free. I'm a firm believer that you have an overall norm then you have outliers - looks like you lucked out on the outliers - which is unfortunate.

Were you able to get your phones replaced? or did Apple refuse to replace them? (just curious).
I didn't replace anything because there are no Apple stores or "genius" in my Country. The only thing I did was stop using Iphone and it's fine.
 

BigMcGuire

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I didn't replace anything because there are no Apple stores or "genius" in my Country. The only thing I did was stop using Iphone and it's fine.

Wow that sucks - whatever works for you. I'm FAR more of a Google fan than I am an Apple fan. I started out with Android in the MyTouch, Droid 1 days. I miss Android. Every year I try out the latest and greatest. I may switch to Android with the Pixel 2, we'll see.

Yeah, if I didn't have an Apple store in my country - it would definitely be a HUGE factor in whether or not I'd get an Apple device. I wouldn't pay $$$$ for Apple if I couldn't go to an Apple Store and get my device fixed within 10 mins.

My wife is from Peru and WOWIE Apple devices are frigging expensive as hell there.
 

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My iPhone 7Plus and my iPad mini 4 has been crashing on different apps from time to time, since iOS 10. But it's improving after each beta release/bug fix so I think once the final iteration of IOS 10 is out it will be good again. At least I am not experiencing any mystery crashes that I have to make a deep effort to troubleshoot and fix, which did happen on my first Note 7 a couple of times. These crashes can usually be "fixed" by simply opening the app again or rebooting. I think the 7Plus hardware seems pretty solid, so far...knock wood. I think I was spared the problems reported about the 7Plus when it was first released.

Like @apppen1 I also had a rough time on my iPhone 5s. I don't remember which iOS update it was, but there was a rough few months where apps were crashing left and right and my camera app would lock up a lot. Eventually something got updated and it stopped and all was well again.

My iPhone 6Plus was never very good, but it was not horrible, either, it was mildly frustrating. It clearly needed more RAM than it had. My 6S Plus was smooth. My sister in law has it now.

I love my Android phones and I love Android, but you have to keep an eye on it. Especially some manufacturers customization of Android are more prone to craziness than others, it seems.
 
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bufffilm

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No jailbreak on any of them. Iphone 5 crashed on iOS 6 springboard and I couldn't even force restart it, when upgraded to iOS 7 it was the worst nightmare I had, the phone basically shut off for no reason with 60% 30% or 15% battery left. iPhone 6 crashed multiple times while using the camera on iOS 8 (brand new), the performance became awfully bad with iOS, games run slugish, the UI lags and not to speak of the battery issues this phone gave me on since the iOS 10 update.

So yeah my experience with iOS is not the same as many others here.

Have you restored the phone as new and installed the apps one by one again?

Your experience is atypical.

But there are bad experiences for Android and iOS alike, I'm sure.
 

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Have you restored the phone as new and installed the apps one by one again?

Your experience is atypical.

But there are bad experiences for Android and iOS alike, I'm sure.
I have always set up the phone as new, but if there is the need to install everything one by one everytime there is an update than that just proves the point that iOS not more reliable than Android. ;)
 
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BigMcGuire

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I have always set up the phone as new, but if there is the need to install everything one by one everytime there is an update than that just proves the point that iOS not more reliable than Android. ;)

If everyone had that experience, then that would be a true statement and Apple would run out of business (not invalidating it for your experience). iOS 10 has been the most stable iOS for me and I've used iOS since the 4s came out. Has it been perfect? No. Has it been better than Android? Definitely. The day Android becomes better, I'll gladly switch and the Pixel has definitely been the best thing that Google can do to help that happen.
 

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I've been using an iPhone 7+, a Galaxy S7 and an LG Aristotle side by side for the last month. (I bought both the iphone and LG and became a Samsung advocate so got the S7 for free (S8 will be replacing it very soon).

The iPhone normally costs $750+, the S7 $650+ and the LG Aristo is $120.

In terms of reliability and stability, the LG actually surpasses both the iPhone and S7. That phone has not had a single reboot, a single app force close or a hiccup in any way and it came with Android 7.0 out of the box. In terms of battery standby (putting the phone to sleep) the LG and iPhone are neck and neck. This surprised the hell out of me. Finally, an Android OEM has built a phone that doesn't eat battery when it is asleep. The S7 is on Android 7 too, yet still eats battery when it is asleep.

All that said, if I were to give people my opinion on most reliable phone overall, with good specs, iPhone wins every time. But I have no problem telling people about the LG Aristo if they don't want to spend a fortune on a phone.
 
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Applejuiced

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I have always set up the phone as new, but if there is the need to install everything one by one everytime there is an update than that just proves the point that iOS not more reliable than Android. ;)

I wouldn't go as far as installing apps one by one.
You can sync them all back with iTunes.
And as long as you restore your device with iTunes and setup as new and the problems persist then you'd have no problem getting a replacement unit from Apple.
That's the service you get with Apple products that makes them way more desirable and worth the higher premium price IMO.
 

bufffilm

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I have always set up the phone as new, but if there is the need to install everything one by one everytime there is an update than that just proves the point that iOS not more reliable than Android. ;)

There are some cases where restoring from backup results in corruption of iOS settings or other strange issues.

I'm not saying your case warrants it...just suggesting you start from a clean slate and being deliberate in your actions.

As I said before, no OS is proof against user issues...but on the whole, iOS gets it right more often than Android because Apple, up to now, is more regular with updates whereas Android (with the general exception of Google phones) is more reliant on each individual manufacturer rolling out updates.
 

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I agree, I have had far far far far more bugs and issues with the iPhone then my Nexus 5 or the 2 Note 5s I have briefly had. Then again I've had 7 iPhones..

I've had..

iPhone 3G cracked plastic case around the volume keys
iPhone 4, home button failing
iPhone 5, power button failing
iPhone 6S, in iMessage the keyboard would become unresponsive when the phone was rotated horizontally.
iPhone 7, poor camera performance and the hissing CPU and the phone vibrates with the speakers turned up.
Various bugs in iOS.

Most issues were 'known Apple issues'

I could just think oh well never mind, but when my Nexus 5 cost less then half that of the iPhones and it never had an issue, then it makes you think...
 

Hastings101

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The only area I would agree with this is updates. Android updates generally improve performance (in my experience), while iOS updates generally slow down the devices. That said, iOS devices will also go through like five versions so the same could be true if an Android were supported that long I guess.

For everyday use, I can't really say there's an enormous difference between my Xperia X Compact on Nougat and my iPhone 7+ performance-wise. The iPhone just has less weird bugs
 
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I7guy

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I agree, I have had far far far far more bugs and issues with the iPhone then my Nexus 5 or the 2 Note 5s I have briefly had. Then again I've had 7 iPhones..

I've had..

iPhone 3G cracked plastic case around the volume keys
iPhone 4, home button failing
iPhone 5, power button failing
iPhone 6S, in iMessage the keyboard would become unresponsive when the phone was rotated horizontally.
iPhone 7, poor camera performance and the hissing CPU and the phone vibrates with the speakers turned up.
Various bugs in iOS.

Most issues were 'known Apple issues'

I could just think oh well never mind, but when my Nexus 5 cost less then half that of the iPhones and it never had an issue, then it makes you think...
- Iphone 4 (3 of them) used for approximately three years no issues. One of the iphones I'm using as an ipod.
- iphone 5s (2 of them) both in service today on 10.2.1
- iphone 6 (replaced twice -- doesn't like being dropped on concrete without a case) on 10.2.1
- iphone 6s no issues on 10.3 beta 4
- iphone 7 no issues on 10.2.1, no camera, hissing or vibration issues.

Operationally, the phones just work.
 

Applejuiced

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Oh good God.. seriously, you HAVE NOT READ THE ARTICLE!!

In the first few paragraphs of it:

Hardly a surprise, we’ve seen a number of significant issues impact iPhone 6 owners over the past few months, with Touch Disease being the most notable example. Late last year, a growing number of iPhone 6 and iPhone 6 Plus owners began noticing that the touchscreen on their device either stopped working or only worked intermittently. Other users, meanwhile, found that the responsiveness of the iPhone’s touchscreen display became temperamental and less responsive. Once the problem became too large to ignore, and perhaps motivated by a rash of bad press, Apple in November agreed to fix affected devices.

So where does it talk about software... your seriousy just embarrassing yourself now.
And dubious study, oh yeah theirs that legendary bias again.. a study in an article you clearly have not read but feel informed enough to comment on someone's post who has read it...
I look forward to your next post...

Who cares what a biased article posts full of fake news info.
I wouldn't waste a second reading it.
I know what works best for me for many years and that's all that matters in the end. I don't need an article to tell me that my iPhone and the iOS is a solid and reliable operating system.
While you're sitting here arguing about android stability in a Mac forum:D lol you're the one that's embarrassing yourself and trying to pick fights.
You should continue to use your android device and find a forum that caters to that and members that actually care about Droids;)
 

nviz22

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I've been using an iPhone 7+, a Galaxy S7 and an LG Aristotle side by side for the last month. (I bought both the iphone and LG and became a Samsung advocate so got the S7 for free (S8 will be replacing it very soon).

The iPhone normally costs $750+, the S7 $650+ and the LG Aristo is $120.

In terms of reliability and stability, the LG actually surpasses both the iPhone and S7. That phone has not had a single reboot, a single app force close or a hiccup in any way and it came with Android 7.0 out of the box. In terms of battery standby (putting the phone to sleep) the LG and iPhone are neck and neck. This surprised the hell out of me. Finally, an Android OEM has built a phone that doesn't eat battery when it is asleep. The S7 is on Android 7 too, yet still eats battery when it is asleep.

All that said, if I were to give people my opinion on most reliable phone overall, with good specs, iPhone wins every time. But I have no problem telling people about the LG Aristo if they don't want to spend a fortune on a phone.

On the flip side, you run the risk of a boot loop on LG devices. I think HTC makes the best skinned OEM rom on Android right now.
 

The Game 161

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Lately I had my iPhone 7 plus freeze a few times which has been odd. More often than not though it's flawless.

Iam looking forward to seeing how smooth the S8 plus will be though on 7.0 in comparison.
 

Oohara

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Interesting to see most of the poeple who came to comment here, lol. I had to ensure I am in the Alternative devices section.

Oh dear...
You know what my point is.

Very interesting who is here.

So much defending going on.
Most likely it was posted in the iPhone section and moved here, hence a bunch of commentators we'd usually never see in this sub forum. It happens regularly.
 
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