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We could put an end to all this nonsense by just not buying new gear.
It's amazing how quickly that would get the message across.
But in the same way that we could end all wars instantly if all military personnel beneath the rank of General refused to fight, we unfortunately cannot organise that level of coordinated militancy.
 
if you think about it, trade in prices are about half from the original purchase as far as I can see.

So while you have to buy your initial iPhone full price, every year you update - you only pay for half an iPhone.

Potentially less if you sell the old device on marketplace or somewhere else.

Something to consider.
I know, they are practically giving them away free, good guy apple ❤️
 
Prices are so high this year that for the first time they introduced a payment x 24 months for the first time with 0% fee which means even them knows that it’s getting too high.
 
if you think about it, trade in prices are about half from the original purchase as far as I can see.

So while you have to buy your initial iPhone full price, every year you update - you only pay for half an iPhone.

Potentially less if you sell the old device on marketplace or somewhere else.

Something to consider.
In the US, yes.

In other countries, not really. Even prior to covid/inflation, we were already "enjoying" 30% markup over US prices. Currently in my country, Apple is selling the base 64GB 2022 SE for $500, higher than the iPhone 11 price. The base 128GB 13 Pro today is "on sale" for $1200. For around the same price, I can get the 256GB Galaxy S22 Ultra.

So regardless of trade ins, we are already paying more for iPhones, and their price points are already higher than what the US MSRP suggested. I shudder thinking what the iPhone 14 lineup prices will be....
 
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We could put an end to all this nonsense by just not buying new gear.
It's amazing how quickly that would get the message across.
But in the same way that we could end all wars instantly if all military personnel beneath the rank of General refused to fight, we unfortunately cannot organise that level of coordinated militancy.
Yea, the Apple brand is so strong today. Even with the 30% markup, people in my country were lining up during the iPhone 13 launch to buy them, and any pre-orders are always sold out. It's crazy. 😂
 
I’ve been thinking about trading in my 12 Mini for a 14 Pro however Apple are offering only slightly less than 1/3 the original value of my Mini which is still in pristine condition because it was in an OtterBox for most of its life. The 14 Pro is enticing but I don’t think paying £875 AND losing my 12 Mini can justify Dynamic Island and a better camera. I should just do the sensible thing and replace the battery which is sitting at 84% and keep it for another 2-3 years.

The consumer in me wants to just bite the bullet and go ahead with it whereas my logical mind is pulling the brakes, lol.
Going through the same back-and-forth with my iPhone 13 mini and a potential 14 Pro upgrade.
 
Yea, the Apple brand is so strong today. Even with the 30% markup, people in my country were lining up during the iPhone 13 launch to buy them, and any pre-orders are always sold out. It's crazy. 😂
Not so strong in my country. If you take away enterprise phones, based on my day to day experience I'd not give Apple a share of greater than 40%, irrespective of the fact the official figures have them nearer to 50%. Depending on whether that holds steady or plummets will depend on the iP14 contract prices. Virtually no one actually buys their phones outright in my country, except cheap phones £200 or less. A premium phone like the iP14 range lives or dies on the price Average Consumer is prepared to pay for a 24-month contract on it (which typically includes unlimited minutes calls, unlimited txts excluding multimedia txts, and a certain prescribed amount of internet data). Considering our consumable income is being decimated by the soaring costs of gas, electric, food and petrol, Average Consumer isn't going to want their contract price to go up.

It's definitely all hanging in the balance. It doesn't take Einstein to realise a lot of people who would have upgraded this year at the end of their 24-month contract will just not bother, because the same money buys food/electric/gas/petrol and no-one's taking their old phone away.
 
if you think about it, trade in prices are about half from the original purchase as far as I can see.

So while you have to buy your initial iPhone full price, every year you update - you only pay for half an iPhone.

Potentially less if you sell the old device on marketplace or somewhere else.

Something to consider.
Dont mix two things , if its just price , the iphone are expensive compared to other phone but if you consider the overall user experience and software experience then Iphones are really great phones especially if you keep them for longer , say 2-4 years at least. But if you keep upgrading every year then those phones are damm expensive even if you are getting 60% from your existing phone
 
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Which makes the euros equal to the dollars, before it was stronger. Explain to me then why we should pay more ?

999$ = 987€. If you add the VAT (20%), it makes 1198$ = 1184€. Guess what ? The base price in France is... 1329€. Same logic for the UK. European pay more, period .
Cost of doing business is different. For example, do you think the extra warranty vs US is free?
 
Not so strong in my country. If you take away enterprise phones, based on my day to day experience I'd not give Apple a share of greater than 40%, irrespective of the fact the official figures have them nearer to 50%. Depending on whether that holds steady or plummets will depend on the iP14 contract prices. Virtually no one actually buys their phones outright in my country, except cheap phones £200 or less. A premium phone like the iP14 range lives or dies on the price Average Consumer is prepared to pay for a 24-month contract on it (which typically includes unlimited minutes calls, unlimited txts excluding multimedia txts, and a certain prescribed amount of internet data). Considering our consumable income is being decimated by the soaring costs of gas, electric, food and petrol, Average Consumer isn't going to want their contract price to go up.

It's definitely all hanging in the balance. It doesn't take Einstein to realise a lot of people who would have upgraded this year at the end of their 24-month contract will just not bother, because the same money buys food/electric/gas/petrol and no-one's taking their old phone away.
I agree. I really can’t justify a new phone at those prices when there’s a cost of living crisis descending on us. I’d rather think about how I’m going to heat my house this winter than getting some new features on a phone.
 
Throwing away working phones in a landfill is e-waste.

Selling your old phone for someone else to continue using is not.
Depends on where it goes and what it needs to be resold. Somone with a screen crack may live with it for years, a reseller may replace it to resell it...which makes more waste. It all depends on where and how its sold.
 
They are very good in the US true, but here in the UK they have gone up considerably. I understand that in Europe it’s even worse then here too
 
They are very good in the US true, but here in the UK they have gone up considerably. I understand that in Europe it’s even worse then here too
Yah, a French resident said the 14 Pro Max is 1750 Euros which is absurdly expensive for an iPhone.
 
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Not so strong in my country. If you take away enterprise phones, based on my day to day experience I'd not give Apple a share of greater than 40%, irrespective of the fact the official figures have them nearer to 50%. Depending on whether that holds steady or plummets will depend on the iP14 contract prices. Virtually no one actually buys their phones outright in my country, except cheap phones £200 or less. A premium phone like the iP14 range lives or dies on the price Average Consumer is prepared to pay for a 24-month contract on it (which typically includes unlimited minutes calls, unlimited txts excluding multimedia txts, and a certain prescribed amount of internet data). Considering our consumable income is being decimated by the soaring costs of gas, electric, food and petrol, Average Consumer isn't going to want their contract price to go up.

It's definitely all hanging in the balance. It doesn't take Einstein to realise a lot of people who would have upgraded this year at the end of their 24-month contract will just not bother, because the same money buys food/electric/gas/petrol and no-one's taking their old phone away.

Spot on. I nearly didn’t upgrade this year but decided to get one of last years iPhones to save a bit of cash. I know a few of my friends and colleagues have decided not to upgrade as the price increases are hard to hide even on contract plans.
 
I bought my iPhone 6 for $770 CAD. The 14 Pro Max is currently $1800 lmao. I keep all my phones, not trade them for 50% depreciated value after only 1 year. So yes the prices are bad.

You can't compare prices of a top end phone to an entry phone. The 4.7" display iPhone 6 was $649 in the U.S. for the 16GB entry model. Adjusting for inflation, that's around $810 today. The larger 6.1" iPhone 14 is $829 in the U.S. for the entry model with 8 times the storage (128GB).

Prices really aren’t that bad, at least in North America. I realize it can be a different story in other countries/continents due to currency fluctuations and other things.
 
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Which makes the euros equal to the dollars, before it was stronger. Explain to me then why we should pay more ?

I was referring to the post that the price was raised in comparison to last year.

There’s no doubt that there’s always been an extra charge on iPhones outside the US. I guess that’s to make up for currency fluctuations to avoid having to change prices during the year.
 
if you think about it, trade in prices are about half from the original purchase as far as I can see.

So while you have to buy your initial iPhone full price, every year you update - you only pay for half an iPhone.

Potentially less if you sell the old device on marketplace or somewhere else.

Something to consider.

Y'all who buy every year's new phone confuse the hell out of me.
 
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I’ve been thinking about trading in my 12 Mini for a 14 Pro however Apple are offering only slightly less than 1/3 the original value of my Mini which is still in pristine condition because it was in an OtterBox for most of its life. The 14 Pro is enticing but I don’t think paying £875 AND losing my 12 Mini can justify Dynamic Island and a better camera. I should just do the sensible thing and replace the battery which is sitting at 84% and keep it for another 2-3 years.

The consumer in me wants to just bite the bullet and go ahead with it whereas my logical mind is pulling the brakes, lol.
Listen to your logical mind - that's the one with the sane grey-cells.......;) You'll thank me for that, especially when the 15 is released.
 
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I agree with the title of this topic 'iPhone prices are not bad'. Imho they are terrible! Their prices in whatever country are astronomically high. I for one will never be paying for those Apple shareholders to eat cavier and help to heat their swimming-pools.....but for those who do I'm sure the shareholders love you for it.
 
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Listen to your logical mind - that's the one with the sane grey-cells.......;) You'll thank me for that, especially when the 15 is released.
With the current price of the 14, I don't think I'd be able to afford the 15 either 🤣I will see if my carrier has discounts/offers. If not, I'm sticking with my XR.
 
I agree with the title of this topic 'iPhone prices are not bad'. Imho they are terrible! Their prices in whatever country are astronomically high. I for one will never be paying for those Apple shareholders to eat cavier and help to heat their swimming-pools.....but for those who do I'm sure the shareholders love you for it.

You can't blame Apple or Apple shareholders for what happened to the euro (and some other currencies) over the past nearly two years. The exchange rate alone would be responsible for an 18% price increase this year. Apple and Apple shareholders don't benefit from that and it can actually hurt the company as it could result in fewer sales due to the notably decreased value of the euro.
 
You are right! Paid full price for 11 Pro Max and then paid $214.00 for 13 Pro Max!
 
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