What is '3D touch ID" ?
About better speakers, how good you think a new tiny(few mm sized) speakers can be?
As for FaceID, they should keep all the "gimmicks\new tech" to their flagships models.
I mention 3D Touch mixed it with Touch ID! My bad.
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iPhone SE (2016) iPhone SE 2 in 2018?
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I mention 3D Touch mixed it with Touch ID! My bad.
3D Touch was useful enough for quick app switching and moving the text cursor, and the trade offs you mentioned were negligible enough to make it worthwhile to me. I had no complaints. To each their own. (But maybe the trade offs would be too much on a smaller phone like the SE.) But of course if Apple found a better solution than 3D Touch or eliminated the need for it, I wouldn’t oppose it.
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Long touch moves the cursor in a different and generally worse way than 3D Touch, so it’s not the same thing.
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I am very hopeful, that the headphone jack will stay in the SE2...
because the just-released new iPad 9,7 stays as well with the 3,5mm jack!
because the just-released new iPad 9,7 stays as well with the 3,5mm jack!
That’s not really evidence of it having it or not tho
10.5/12.9 gen2 have it but 7 preceding it didn’t and 8/X following it didn’t either
You Really can’t compare the iPad to the iPhone, because the iPhone is really on its own tangent why the 3.5 mm Jack was retained for the iPad and not for the iPhone. Even though the iPad is portable, it’s still a stationary device for many consumers. However, the iPhone they deleted the Jack because they believe that it was antiquated and it was reducing space for other hardware improvements, but Apple also realized that the iPhone is a highly mobile device where consumers always on the go and the AirPods were an alternative to be free of wires as well. It’s just their view of the Bluetooth future, even though not everybody agrees with their decision.
I am too. I'd like to think that Apple, in keeping with the 'classic' design that is the SE, keeps not only the chamfered edging but the headphone jack, too.
I've seen people mentioning that they hope they round the edges off like the later models, and it just doesn't seem in spirit with what the original SE was supposed to be. At this point, keeping the headphone jack seems just as much a part of that classic design as anything, which is why I am hopeful they will keep it in.
I really think that you might be right here.
Also an important part of what the SE is meant to be is a low cost phone and:
- Re-engineering it significantly from its roots is going to add cost on
- And it is meant for the middle cases in the developing world who might not appreciate having to buy replacement dongles, new cases etc.
I think the removal of the jack from the 7 onwards was more about getting enough room to fit in 3D Touch, the Taptic Engine and the new home button plus putting in a larger battery than thy were able to for the 6s.
Anyway I have a feeling that we’ll all find out in 2-3 weeks time whatever the case.
I think it's all about selling the AirPods... period. And changing the home button to prepare people to get rid of it on the next iPhone (X). But it's just my opinion!
I also think the new SE will come as is it right now but with the A10 chip and hopefully better cameras, but no redesign. Just like iPad 2017 vs iPad 2018.
We'll see in a couple of weeks
I think it's all about selling the AirPods... period. And changing the home button to prepare people to get rid of it on the next iPhone (X). But it's just my opinion!
I also think the new SE will come as is it right now but with the A10 chip and hopefully better cameras, but no redesign. Just like iPad 2017 vs iPad 2018.
We'll see in a couple of weeks
That’s a good point. It really feels like it could go either way now.
I’d prefer a shrunken down iPhone 7/8 ie SE body with non physical home button and Taptic Engine.
But when you think about it I think it’s hard for them to fit the Taptic Engine into a smaller space.
So now I’m inclining towards the SE body but with iPhone 8 processor and camera (and maybe just the 7 screen)
Why else would SE owners upgrade if it were just the next processor and camera up from the 6S /A9?
Then it makes you think maybe the inductive charging mock ups aren’t all strange if it is going to be the A11 and sub system.
And yeah we’ll know soon enough. The SE being a hybrid product from the outset the SE2 is hard to guess as it could be a mix of any parts from the 5s to the 8.
I will be the cynic here, the reason Apple won’t retain the 3.5 mm Jack as much as everybody seemingly believes that they will, is because it would go against everything that they already said. Reflect back on what multiple Apple executives had said that the 3.5 m Jack is antiquated and dated technology. It would be a horrible business practice to retain the 3.5 mm Jack on a newly released iPhone and then not have it incorproated on the other iPhone models given their statements. Apple Believes is in the future of a wireless world with Bluetooth, and that’s one of the reasons why the AirPods exist.
Also on the same tangent, I also have a very high doubt an iPhone SE will launch during WWDC 2018, I could be wrong, as no one really expected the iPad Pros to launch last year during WWDC, but then again, iOS 11 was very much in tune to the new iPad Pro and it’s capabilities. But it’s seemingly very rare that an iPhone would launch during WWDC 2018, as it’s technically more software and developer focus then it is hardware.
Also on the same tangent, I also have a very high doubt an iPhone SE will launch during WWDC 2018, I could be wrong, as no one really expected the iPad Pros to launch last year during WWDC, but then again, iOS 11 was very much in tune to the new iPad Pro and it’s capabilities. But it’s seemingly very rare that an iPhone would launch during WWDC 2018, as it’s technically more software and developer focus then it is hardware.
I don't care if Apple removes the headphone jack if they ever make a successor to the SE.
All I care about is a small "premium" phone. I wouldn't mind the latest and greatest on a small phone, but at the same time I wouldn't mind if it didn't have any of the newest technologies.
All I care about is a small "premium" phone. I wouldn't mind the latest and greatest on a small phone, but at the same time I wouldn't mind if it didn't have any of the newest technologies.
So I see a render and story of an SE2 with Face IS and all screen front:
http://pocketnow.com/2018/05/01/unconfirmed-iphone-se-2-cad-renders-notch
Now I would buy this if the screen size was the equivalent of my 6S!! Or would people rather have wireless charging?
http://pocketnow.com/2018/05/01/unconfirmed-iphone-se-2-cad-renders-notch
Now I would buy this if the screen size was the equivalent of my 6S!! Or would people rather have wireless charging?
Renders are generally almost never a factual reality, they are just usually fan made art of what someone wants to see versus what would actually happen. If it does not have touch ID according to that render, that means that it would incorporate Face ID and that would only increase the price point of the iPhone SE given Apples go original intention was to keep it affordable. I think if the SE is updated, it would only retain touch ID.
I understand the points made for why Apple would remove it, and part of me is inclined to think they will remove it, but still holding out hope. After all, my new iPad has a headphone jack and the practicality of having a headphone jack on a phone or a tablet leans to the former..
5" SE2 would be idea with the same chassis or size. That without the huge top and botton bezels! I buy it for sure if it has the "X" style!
It seems that the SE2-project has been discontinued...
having read the following Thread, this might be because there are lawsuits between Qualcomm and apple:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ly-use-intel-modems-for-2018-iphones.2129438/
I am disappointed that my hope and wish for a SE2 might not (yet) become reality...
having read the following Thread, this might be because there are lawsuits between Qualcomm and apple:
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...ly-use-intel-modems-for-2018-iphones.2129438/
I am disappointed that my hope and wish for a SE2 might not (yet) become reality...
Have you heard anything since this? People still seem to be talking about the this size iPhone still happening, however the dispute doesn't seem to be so much whether the device will be launched or not, but more what the name will be. (some say SE2, others say iPhone 9)
(Though knowing Apple, they will throw us all a curveball, and it will be something completely different entirely).
(I do hope they keep the headphone jack though). If they do, I'm buying! (but I won't hold my breath!)
I recently got a pair of iPhone SEs on the AT&T Prepaid sale, and while I'm quite happy with my purchases, one of which is for me as a toy iOS device on WiFi, and one which is a gift to replace an old iPod running iOS 8 or something like that, they feel very long in the tooth, and it's time for that form factor to go. I know that the narrower form factor has a cult following, and I LOVED my iPhone 4s, but with apps going the way they are going, having a larger screen is the present, and having an even larger screen than that is the future.
I loved the iPhone 4s, and how small it was, but I'm now acknowledging that my future phone is probably a Note 9. It's shocking when you use a phone with a larger screen and then go back to a tiny screen, and it feels, well, TINY.
I think the form factor is more of an issue. They could make an Intel iPhone SE2 if they really wanted to, but I don't think that they want to at this point. It's very unfortunate that they are dropping Qualcomm and moving to the inferior Intel radios. I won't buy a phone that doesn't have Qualcomm's latest gigabit LTE technology, not for the speed, but for the weak signal and congested network performance.
I loved the iPhone 4s, and how small it was, but I'm now acknowledging that my future phone is probably a Note 9. It's shocking when you use a phone with a larger screen and then go back to a tiny screen, and it feels, well, TINY.
I think the form factor is more of an issue. They could make an Intel iPhone SE2 if they really wanted to, but I don't think that they want to at this point. It's very unfortunate that they are dropping Qualcomm and moving to the inferior Intel radios. I won't buy a phone that doesn't have Qualcomm's latest gigabit LTE technology, not for the speed, but for the weak signal and congested network performance.
I hope the madness of bigger and more expensive phones will end. I´m happy with my iPhone SE and MacBook Air. And yes, the 12,9 iPad Pro has become my new best friend. Why the big expensive phones?
I recently found a good phone, the Samsung galaxy a3 4,7. Now it turns out that samsung has cut this model out, it seems they only sell 5 inch and bigger. The madness continues.
I recently found a good phone, the Samsung galaxy a3 4,7. Now it turns out that samsung has cut this model out, it seems they only sell 5 inch and bigger. The madness continues.
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