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Curious why the device dimensions are not exactly the same as the iPhone 14
 
At least $499
I agree, I think it will be $549. By the time this launches, the 14 will drop to the $599 price point that the 13 currently occupies. Both the SE 1 and SE 2 undercut the phones the succeeded by $50, costing $399 compared to $449 for the 5s and 8.

I'm curious what happens with the $429 price point though. I have a hard time believing they would continue to sell the SE 3, but I also can't imagine Apple wants its entry level iPhone to have such a high price point.
 
Premium price for mediocre specs compared to the competition: no 90hz refresh screen, no quick charge, huge notch on the screen, single lens camera, etc.
“Super fast CPU” is not gonna cut it anymore to make a fluid experience, need some decent amount of RAM for current apps.
 
I would love to upgrade my xs. Not sure if an SE4 will be the right one for me. I may just hold onto this thing until GPT-quality AI becomes hardcoded into a phone and can run offline.
 
I would love to upgrade my xs. Not sure if an SE4 will be the right one for me. I may just hold onto this thing until GPT-quality AI becomes hardcoded into a phone and can run offline.
That’s what the rumored a18 pro might be able to do, but you’ll pay
 
Okay, sadly it was expectable that the SE 4 would adopt the 6.1” and OLED, using the iPhone 14 as a base design.

I say sadly, because my eyes can’t tolerate well OLED displays and my hand cannot handle a smartphone this big without making equilibrium with it, risking to drop it over and over.

Looks like I will stay with my SE 3 for a long, long time.
 
My older relatives flat out can't use a phone without TouchID/Home Button

They get "lost" constantly on iOS and that one big single button is their lifeline

I can't believe Apple is going to totally nuke it as an option on one single model
Yea, Apple was heavily criticized when they launched the SE 3 being basically an iPhone 8 with an A15 and 4GB of RAM (and 5G), but this device is actually covering a niche of people that really appreciate the form factor.

I personally would buy an iPhone SE with the same design and an A18 SoC, but I understand it would be a product that wouldn’t sell too much. Too niche for 2024 Apple, I guess.
 
IDK about that. I remember in the iPhone 3/4/5 days when your options were the white iphone or the black iphone and that was it lol.

What I mean is that they make more "options" than ever, but none of them are really actual options

iPhones are just big, bigger and huge with the same boring palette of colors as ever. Besides, you have to keep people interested in overpriced cases to add color!

And so much of the feature segmentation is mostly artificial just to drive you to spend more.
 
Would it not make sense for this to get a September release this year so that the 14 and 13 can be dropped for an all- USB-C lineup?
it would also create natural price tiers.
It would take (some) attention (and sales) away from the iPhone 16 release.

Past iPhone SE releases always came after the main iPhone release.

iPhone 6s / 6s Plus with A9 SoC announced September 2015
iPhone SE (1st gen) with A9 SoC announced March 2016

iPhone 11 with A13 SoC announced September 2019
iPhone SE (2nd gen) with A13 SoC announced April 2020

iPhone 13 with A15SoC announced September 2021
iPhone SE (3rd gen) with A15 SoC announced March 2022

which means

iPhone 16 announced September 2024
iPhone SE (4th gen) announced March or April 2025?

The question is what SoC will the 4th gen iPhone SE use, an A16, A17, or A18?
 
Those are more "pro" features
:rolleyes:

What a crock all this artificial segmentation is.

Put things like the action button EVERYWHERE -- so EVERYONE can use it and Devs can really target it and take advantage of it. It's a button for goodness sakes -- a button!

Because new buttons are all Apple seem to think are innovative these days.

Thus is just lazy cheap design and ugly by Jeff Williams lead design team.

Trash
 
This will not be as cheap as the current SE model. A smaller size would be perfect.
 
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It would take (some) attention (and sales) away from the iPhone 16 release.

Past iPhone SE releases always came after the main iPhone release.

iPhone 6s / 6s Plus with A9 SoC announced September 2015
iPhone SE (1st gen) with A9 SoC announced March 2016

iPhone 11 with A13 SoC announced September 2019
iPhone SE (2nd gen) with A13 SoC announced April 2020

iPhone 13 with A15SoC announced September 2021
iPhone SE (3rd gen) with A15 SoC announced March 2022

which means

iPhone 16 announced September 2024
iPhone SE (4th gen) announced March or April 2025?

The question is what SoC will the 4th gen iPhone SE use, an A16, A17, or A18?
That does make sense.
I still wonder, though, if Apple will want to keep two Lightning models in the lineup vs. going all-in on USB-C.
 
So it's a cheaper iPhone 14. Nothing really special about it for someone that was looking for a different phone and not saving money.
 
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It would take (some) attention (and sales) away from the iPhone 16 release.

Past iPhone SE releases always came after the main iPhone release.

iPhone 6s / 6s Plus with A9 SoC announced September 2015
iPhone SE (1st gen) with A9 SoC announced March 2016

iPhone 11 with A13 SoC announced September 2019
iPhone SE (2nd gen) with A13 SoC announced April 2020

iPhone 13 with A15SoC announced September 2021
iPhone SE (3rd gen) with A15 SoC announced March 2022

which means

iPhone 16 announced September 2024
iPhone SE (4th gen) announced March or April 2025?

The question is what SoC will the 4th gen iPhone SE use, an A16, A17, or A18?
My guess would be A17, which is what the iPhone 16 is getting. I believe Apple has so far chosen the latest base SoC for the SE models due to the gap between refreshes.
 
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