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As a man that lays, I suggest you google the term. In short, it allows you to bypass Apple's control over the UI and customize lots of stuff and do pretty much everything people have been complaining about missing on the iPhone.

Haha! "a man that lays" so are you jailbreakers on various carriers? I really am scared of AT&T and wanted to do tmobile and unlock but would not know where to start and people says its slow. plus i woul dhave to buy a like.. $800 phone. boo.
 
just because its on verizon I am thinking of getting it when my att contract is up
 
Gotta love all you pretentious wanks who are so booooored with the iphone!:rolleyes:

iPhones have been out now, what going on three years and this is the best any of the companies can do?

They're all always playing catch up to Apple. Always have, always will be!:eek:
 
Haha! "a man that lays" so are you jailbreakers on various carriers? I really am scared of AT&T and wanted to do tmobile and unlock but would not know where to start and people says its slow. plus i woul dhave to buy a like.. $800 phone. boo.

if you got with Tmo on 3Gs, then u'll only have it in EDGE network not the 3G network. quite frankly, i use tmo on 3Gs with the EDGE and it's faster than my google G2 phone with 3G network. lol.
 
if you got with Tmo on 3Gs, then u'll only have it in EDGE network not the 3G network. quite frankly, i use tmo on 3Gs with the EDGE and it's faster than my google G2 phone with 3G network. lol.

So you're happy with it? I have ladies night tomorrow. two girls with iphones- one on tmobile and one on att. I plan on doing a very scientific comparison before i make my final decision. Like who can get on facebook faster. haha. I am not a pro though, so its getting the unlocked phone, etc.. I am worried I wont save by being on t-mobile when I have to buy such a spendy unlocked pone. thoughts? I thought about staying on verizon and chekcing out the phone but I have been down the motorola road (barf) and am just so apple loyal... i would just be wishing I hadn't done it if i went with the droid. I know it.
 
So you're happy with it? I have ladies night tomorrow. two girls with iphones- one on tmobile and one on att. I plan on doing a very scientific comparison before i make my final decision. Like who can get on facebook faster. haha. I am not a pro though, so its getting the unlocked phone, etc.. I am worried I wont save by being on t-mobile when I have to buy such a spendy unlocked pone. thoughts? I thought about staying on verizon and chekcing out the phone but I have been down the motorola road (barf) and am just so apple loyal... i would just be wishing I hadn't done it if i went with the droid. I know it.

i'm happy to use tmo on iphone. though i wish the speed would be as fast as the sprint 3G network, then it'll be even better.

i got the tmo with MT3G because i didn't want to pay the ridiculous data plan that ATT was bundling with iphone. i was with Cingular/ATT for the past 8 yrs, and finally i got tired of getting screwed and went with Tmo. now paying $65/month with 1000 mins + unlimited data, nights and weekends, and 400 txt message free. txt message, i obviously just use GV to do that part. ;)

so am i happy to use tmo on iphone, yes. but if ur not in a hurry, u can wait till next year when ATT no longer have iphone as an offering. then perhaps other carriers will carry the iphone 3Gs or newer versions with faster and better network service.

but for your girlfriends to pit the iphone together with Tmo vs. ATT, as long as both are operating at EDGE (2G network) then the comparison will be fair. otherwise, ATT 3G vs. Tmo Edge, the ATT 3G will be faster.

from my comparison, i put my Tmo in MT3G and ran it at 3G network in a 3G network zone and compared it with 3Gs at 3G.. MT3G loaded facebook and other sites faster than the iphone 3Gs.
 
i'm happy to use tmo on iphone. though i wish the speed would be as fast as the sprint 3G network, then it'll be even better.

i got the tmo with MT3G because i didn't want to pay the ridiculous data plan that ATT was bundling with iphone. i was with Cingular/ATT for the past 8 yrs, and finally i got tired of getting screwed and went with Tmo. now paying $65/month with 1000 mins + unlimited data, nights and weekends, and 400 txt message free. txt message, i obviously just use GV to do that part. ;)

so am i happy to use tmo on iphone, yes. but if ur not in a hurry, u can wait till next year when ATT no longer have iphone as an offering. then perhaps other carriers will carry the iphone 3Gs or newer versions with faster and better network service.

but for your girlfriends to pit the iphone together with Tmo vs. ATT, as long as both are operating at EDGE (2G network) then the comparison will be fair. otherwise, ATT 3G vs. Tmo Edge, the ATT 3G will be faster.

from my comparison, i put my Tmo in MT3G and ran it at 3G network in a 3G network zone and compared it with 3Gs at 3G.. MT3G loaded facebook and other sites faster than the iphone 3Gs.

WHOA. not a techie. I need you to say in plain English what the H MT3G and what GV are. I really want to make the right decision here, and this forum is a part of my research. I only followed about 50% of that. you can private message me if you want. I feel like an idiot on here. You all are so knowledgeable!
 
Real world experience on the gps is needed before I'd say that the Google GPS is a "killer app."

Google's GPS app is free, but the meter will be running on your mobile's data plan unless you've got some form of "unlimited" plan, unlike a dedicated GPS unit in the car.

What happens to "turn by turn" if your wireless broadband connection gets iffy? With a standalone GPS, you're just limited by the sat birds.

It saves your route in memory in the event of any loss of signal.

The Android phones are very neat, and within the next few years I'm sure I'll use one as my primary phone, but right now they just don't have great hardware backing them up (although the Droid phone is very tempting; Verizon has been pretty terrible for me in the past though). I need good hardware behind good software. I think when Android 3.0 rolls around I'll take a more serious look at what the platform has to offer.
 
I'm going to walk into Verizon and seriously consider purchase of the DROID. I use Google Voice extensively and am very much integrated into the Google cloud computing.
 
WHOA. not a techie. I need you to say in plain English what the H MT3G and what GV are. I really want to make the right decision here, and this forum is a part of my research. I only followed about 50% of that. you can private message me if you want. I feel like an idiot on here. You all are so knowledgeable!

sorry about that.. just got lazy to type it all out.

MT3G = Tmobile MyTouch3G (android base phone)
GV = google voice
 
I use Google Voice extensively and am very much integrated into the Google cloud computing.

The most important reason I wouldn't consider a droid is that I love my iphone. But the second most important reason is that I have no interest in tying my life to google. I have gmail, and that's really enough (along with search and maps). It's not like I'm paranoid and think they're going to compile a file on me or something, but I really just don't want to tie everything I do to one company whose business model is tracking my habits and targeting ads to me.
 
The most important reason I wouldn't consider a droid is that I love my iphone. But the second most important reason is that I have no interest in tying my life to google. I have gmail, and that's really enough (along with search and maps). It's not like I'm paranoid and think they're going to compile a file on me or something, but I really just don't want to tie everything I do to one company whose business model is tracking my habits and targeting ads to me.

That is a very interesting point!
 
Google is become scarier and scarier. Can everyone see what they're doing?

The Droid looks to be the best gambit yet towards creating a vision of the future of mobile computing. Android is a container implementing Google's best practices for their various cloud APIs. Anyone who thinks "iPhone vs. Droid" is missing the point. Google is doing an "end-run" on becoming integrated into EVERY device and EVERY operating system on the planet. Android is Google's insurance that their cloud computing platform cannot be marginalized. By keeping most of their value in the cloud, they can afford to "open source" the core system. By virtually giving away Android OS, and doing everything to popularize the platform, Google makes its services more attractive to other operating systems (like iPhone OS).

When I saw Google Mobile, with its Voice Search relying on the Google search engine, I became very impressed with the ability to use the power of a search engine to decipher voice input into likely commands. "THAT's power!", I thought. I made a post here on MacRumors saying that Apple or Google should extend this to an entire operating system. --Google has now done that ADMIRABLY, and continued to push it even further with its amazing new "Turn-by-Turn Navigation" features.

Suddenly, Apple's game just got a LOT smaller, and its VERY clear why Apple could not readily allow Google Voice to appropriate its phone features. Google has set out to PUNK everyone who's not paying attention. They will give away services left-and-right. Some silly writers will think Google will "hold back" functions from Apple, when in reality Google is only too happy to offer them to Apple for integration into the iPhone. When Apple doesn't use the technology, Google will be only too happy to create a new iPhone app. Google Maps for Mobile will permeate every OS. Google services will find their way into a myriad of custom applications on each device.

Buy Google stock. Sell short on TomTom, Garmin, RIM, Palm and Nokia.

Apple? They're quickly becoming one of the only remaining two companies that will be able to compete with Google's game plan. In modern times, we will quickly realize that we do not know the meaning of the word "monopoly". Years from now, we will realize this as a pivotal moment before Google became the most powerful corporation on the face of the planet. When governments begin to understand and attempt to legislate the problem, it will be virtually impossible to understand how to even begin breaking Google up.

~ CB
 
Google is become scarier and scarier. Can everyone see what they're doing?

The Droid looks to be the best gambit yet towards creating a vision of the future of mobile computing. Android is a container implementing Google's best practices for their various cloud APIs. Anyone who thinks "iPhone vs. Droid" is missing the point. Google is doing an "end-run" on becoming integrated into EVERY device and EVERY operating system on the planet. Android is Google's insurance that their cloud computing platform cannot be marginalized. By keeping most of their value in the cloud, they can afford to "open source" the core system. By virtually giving away Android OS, and doing everything to popularize the platform, Google makes its services more attractive to other operating systems (like iPhone OS).

When I saw Google Mobile, with its Voice Search relying on the Google search engine, I became very impressed with the ability to use the power of a search engine to decipher voice input into likely commands. "THAT's power!", I thought. I made a post here on MacRumors saying that Apple or Google should extend this to an entire operating system. --Google has now done that ADMIRABLY, and continued to push it even further with its amazing new "Turn-by-Turn Navigation" features.

Suddenly, Apple's game just got a LOT smaller, and its VERY clear why Apple could not readily allow Google Voice to appropriate its phone features. Google has set out to PUNK everyone who's not paying attention. They will give away services left-and-right. Some silly writers will think Google will "hold back" functions from Apple, when in reality Google is only too happy to offer them to Apple for integration into the iPhone. When Apple doesn't use the technology, Google will be only too happy to create a new iPhone app. Google Maps for Mobile will permeate every OS. Google services will find their way into a myriad of custom applications on each device.

Buy Google stock. Sell short on TomTom, Garmin, RIM, Palm and Nokia.

Apple? They're quickly becoming one of the only remaining two companies that will be able to compete with Google's game plan. In modern times, we will quickly realize that we do not know the meaning of the word "monopoly". Years from now, we will realize this as a pivotal moment before Google became the most powerful corporation on the face of the planet. When governments begin to understand and attempt to legislate the problem, it will be virtually impossible to understand how to even begin breaking Google up.

~ CB

After watching the hands on video, theres no new technology or anything breakthrough. Everything on that phone the iphone already has, Facebook, Pandora, Music player, Weather Widgets.

Only thing their really offering is customization features and free google turn by turn maps!
 
Real world experience on the gps is needed before I'd say that the Google GPS is a "killer app."

Google's GPS app is free, but the meter will be running on your mobile's data plan unless you've got some form of "unlimited" plan, unlike a dedicated GPS unit in the car.

What happens to "turn by turn" if your wireless broadband connection gets iffy? With a standalone GPS, you're just limited by the sat birds.

+1. Google Maps is cool, but turn-by-turn is another creature. It will be interesting to see how intrusive their ads will be, especially down the road after they give their free taste. If I'm trying to find my turn to Taco Bell and Burger King keeps popping up, that's not going to be good.

Also, all that GPS and data is going to suck your battery, make a lot of heat, and obviously isn't going to be much help if you have poor or no data reception. Everyone bitched up a storm about AT&T's GPS app and not just because it's $10/mo. A lot of advantages to an on-board app.
 
After watching the hands on video, theres no new technology or anything breakthrough. Everything on that phone the iphone already has, Facebook, Pandora, Music player, Weather Widgets.

Only thing their really offering is customization features and free google turn by turn maps!

BTW, pretty much the same could be said about the iPhone's introduction by Treo owners, except for the multi-touch and virtual keyboard. ;)

Treos, both Palm and Handspring had touchscreen, music, video, apps, web, mapping . . . Apple just took it to the next level.

BTW, Android 2.0 does more than customization and turn by turn, so don't sell it short just yet.

As for "pop up ads" . . . don't confuse the Google model with other sites; Google will make money the way that they do on their search engine . . . pay for placement in the search listing.

Wait for Android 3.0? Why don't iPhone users wait for iPhone OS 4.x? ;)
 
Google's GPS app is free, but the meter will be running on your mobile's data plan unless you've got some form of "unlimited" plan, unlike a dedicated GPS unit in the car.
Who the hell would get a Droid and NOT get unlimited data? It's the same price as AT&T's plan, and it's probably required for Verizon smartphones.

You're really just grasping for straws now... :rolleyes:
 
Google is become scarier and scarier. Can everyone see what they're doing?

The Droid looks to be the best gambit yet towards creating a vision of the future of mobile computing. Android is a container implementing Google's best practices for their various cloud APIs. Anyone who thinks "iPhone vs. Droid" is missing the point. Google is doing an "end-run" on becoming integrated into EVERY device and EVERY operating system on the planet. Android is Google's insurance that their cloud computing platform cannot be marginalized. By keeping most of their value in the cloud, they can afford to "open source" the core system. By virtually giving away Android OS, and doing everything to popularize the platform, Google makes its services more attractive to other operating systems (like iPhone OS).

When I saw Google Mobile, with its Voice Search relying on the Google search engine, I became very impressed with the ability to use the power of a search engine to decipher voice input into likely commands. "THAT's power!", I thought. I made a post here on MacRumors saying that Apple or Google should extend this to an entire operating system. --Google has now done that ADMIRABLY, and continued to push it even further with its amazing new "Turn-by-Turn Navigation" features.

Suddenly, Apple's game just got a LOT smaller, and its VERY clear why Apple could not readily allow Google Voice to appropriate its phone features. Google has set out to PUNK everyone who's not paying attention. They will give away services left-and-right. Some silly writers will think Google will "hold back" functions from Apple, when in reality Google is only too happy to offer them to Apple for integration into the iPhone. When Apple doesn't use the technology, Google will be only too happy to create a new iPhone app. Google Maps for Mobile will permeate every OS. Google services will find their way into a myriad of custom applications on each device.

Buy Google stock. Sell short on TomTom, Garmin, RIM, Palm and Nokia.

Apple? They're quickly becoming one of the only remaining two companies that will be able to compete with Google's game plan. In modern times, we will quickly realize that we do not know the meaning of the word "monopoly". Years from now, we will realize this as a pivotal moment before Google became the most powerful corporation on the face of the planet. When governments begin to understand and attempt to legislate the problem, it will be virtually impossible to understand how to even begin breaking Google up.

~ CB

This is almost exactly what I was thinking while reading about the new Google Maps. Free things are cool and all, but we need to be more mindful and pay attention to what Google is doing with all these free apps and why they are doing it. There needs to be more public discussion as to what is going on here, whether it is good or bad, and more importantly, what it might lead to.
 
all that GPS and data is going to suck your battery
If only someone would invent a CAR CHARGER!! Why god!?!? Why hasn't the car charger been invented yet!?!?

Oh wait...
make a lot of heat
Pathetic attempt to put down the Droid by an obvious iPhone fanboy.
and obviously isn't going to be much help if you have poor or no data reception.
And this is different on the iPhone because...???

Everything you said can be directed at the iPhone as well.
 
After watching the hands on video, theres no new technology or anything breakthrough. Everything on that phone the iphone already has, Facebook, Pandora, Music player, Weather Widgets.

Only thing their really offering is customization features and free google turn by turn maps!
Apparently a 5 MP camera w/ dual LED flash and the interchangeable battery are breakthroughs, because the 3GS doesn't have either of those ;)
 
This is almost exactly what I was thinking while reading about the new Google Maps. Free things are cool and all, but we need to be more mindful and pay attention to what Google is doing with all these free apps and why they are doing it. There needs to be more public discussion as to what is going on here, whether it is good or bad, and more importantly, what it might lead to.

It's not bad. A lot of GPS applications and devices are way overpriced. Competition is never, ever a bad thing. Google gives away a Navigation application for free, which makes other GPS device manufacturers like TomTom rethink what they're offering, and they either innovate the market, or fail. If they fail, another more innovative company takes their place. They need to justify the cost of their application/hardware, and by doing so offer more features for customers.

Remember that if Google did things the wrong way, people would not use their software. They create software that people WANT to use, as opposed to overpriced software that people aren't interested in.
 
What do you all think? Wouldn't it be cool if the iPhone and a side dock like that. Would be sweet.

I had the same feeling, and actually I was impressed by most of the OS. It really appears (at least on face value) to have a very efficient UI. I can't say how well it will stack up against the iPhone, but to be honest I suspect it will be comparable (if not better in some aspects, although probably not in all aspects). Personally I'm glad that Android is looking so great. Competition is always better for the end user!
 
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