I don't agree that it's automatically a good thing nor am I saying it's a bad thing. I am saying people need to have more open, public discussion as to what is going on. If Google is going to keep entering markets and giving things away for free, we need to seriously consider the consequences of letting them do this. Google is doing things that are unprecedented with a business model that hasn't really been seen before. We don't know what their plan is. No one even knew they were doing this with their Map App.
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I don't agree that it's automatically a good thing nor am I saying it's a bad thing. I am saying people need to have more open, public discussion as to what is going on. If Google is going to keep entering markets and giving things away for free, we need to seriously consider the consequences of letting them do this. Google is doing things that are unprecedented with a business model that hasn't really been seen before. We don't know what their plan is. No one even knew they were doing this with their Map App.
So will Verizon be charging $30 for a data plan on the Droid? One thing I like about AT&T is that they think my G1 is a dumb phone, and thus only charge me $15/mo for the data package vs. the iPhone $30. That is a savings of $180 a year. Not bad.
What weather widgets does the iPhone have without jailbreaking it?
Also, keep in mind that Android has a LOT more widgets available than just weather. When I used a g1, I had at least 5 widgets, and they were all for different applications.
Who the hell would get a Droid and NOT get unlimited data? It's the same price as AT&T's plan, and it's probably required for Verizon smartphones.
You're really just grasping for straws now...
Sorry, it wasn't a criticism of the device, I just wasn't familiar with VZW's data plans. The unlimited $30/mo data plan from VZW is sweet.
Or even their old iPhone, since it essentially becomes an iPod Touch once deactivated.
When folks say they are getting bored with their iPhone, I understand. I am so bored with my iPhone just working. I am jealous of the people who are constantly getting to buy new phones because of all the new features that are constantly being added to try and catch up with Apple.
I am also bored with my Mac computer. I have had three of them since the early 90's and all they do is work. I am jealous of all my WINDOWS friends getting to change OS's all the time to try to make their PC's work like a Mac.
Just sayin'.
I am also bored with my Mac computer. I have had three of them since the early 90's and all they do is work. I am jealous of all my WINDOWS friends getting to change OS's all the time to try to make their PC's work like a Mac.
Just sayin'.
Gotta love all you pretentious wanks who are so booooored with the iphone!
iPhones have been out now, what going on three years and this is the best any of the companies can do?
They're all always playing catch up to Apple. Always have, always will be!
I wouldn't say companies have always been playing catch up to Apple. There was a time where Apple was the one playing catchup.
If Android didn't exist, hardly ANYONE would allow Google the full latitude to do what they're doing in the mobile space. With Android, Google can force manufacturers to accept their cloud services, by getting their customers to "crave" their unique features.
You need to look closer at the official video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGXK4jKN_jY
No new technology? Let's see... voice-driven GPS navigation, natural language location selection, photographic exit guides, massive cloud-based computing data, and up-to-the-minute inline POI information.
If you're talking about Android 2.0 as a whole, you're mostly right... although Androids "open" model, supporting video recording, augmented reality, multiple-screen sizes, and multitasking in general... gives it a leg up. Other than that, Android is still playing "catch-up"... but they ARE almost caught up to the iPhone and its only been 1 year! It's anyone's guess where things will be next year for both companies.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opZ69P-0Jbc
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The only reason there is so much hype over the Droid is NOT because it's better than the iPhone...it's not. In fact, most every reviewer will be the first to tell you that the iPhone is still the king of the "smartphones".
All the hype is because, up until now, the iPhone has been number 1, 2, 3, 4-12 in the list of the top 12 smartphones....but now, it looks like the Droid has finally done what no one but Apple could do--create a smartphone that is ALMOST as good as the iPhone. It's not #1...but maybe it's #2 or 3.
The BIG DEAL here is that consumers finally have the option to get a very good, respectable device that maintains most of the iPhones features...but they get something NO iPhone user has...a good network. This totally changes the game.
Gadget for gadget, the iPhone will always win.
Cell service for cell service, Verizon trounces AT&T (that's not just me saying that, read any third party survey of the networks).
So now we have a very good, comparable gadget on the best wireless network and people are getting flustered.
I know that it's enough to make me leave. I'm going to miss my iPhone, but it will stay with me functioning as an iPod Touch.
Except now I'm going to get something I never had before: reception.
All the hype is because, up until now, the iPhone has been number 1, 2, 3, 4-12 in the list of the top 12 smartphones....but now, it looks like the Droid has finally done what no one but Apple could do--create a smartphone that is ALMOST as good as the iPhone. It's not #1...but maybe it's #2 or 3.
The BIG DEAL here is that consumers finally have the option to get a very good, respectable device that maintains most of the iPhones features...but they get something NO iPhone user has...a good network. This totally changes the game.
Gadget for gadget, the iPhone will always win.
Cell service for cell service, Verizon trounces AT&T (that's not just me saying that, read any third party survey of the networks).
So now we have a very good, comparable gadget on the best wireless network and people are getting flustered.
I know that it's enough to make me leave. I'm going to miss my iPhone, but it will stay with me functioning as an iPod Touch.
Except now I'm going to get something I never had before: reception.
iToy v. Phone with cool features
I am a long time Verizon customer and Mac owner. I recently bought an iPhone. I wanted to see what I thought of the iPhone then compare side-by-side to the Droid.
Here's my take on the iPhone from a Verizon customer perspective:
Overall Interface -- awesome.
Apps -- very cool. Still finding neat apps. This is a major, major plus.
Mac integration -- awesome. As a mac user, I really like how the iPhone is built to work with iTunes, iCal, Contacts, etc.
AT&T Service:
Data -- speeds have been very good. No complaints.
Voice -- here is the Achilles heel. Voice calls are simply horrible. Talking to people on the iPhone, people have already asked if I got a new phone... because the call quality is noticeably worse than my Verizon dumb phone.
For purposes of voice calls, I am stunned at how bad of a phone the iPhone is. I'm not trying to bash at all. I love Macs and really want the iPhone to be what the iPhone is supposed to be. But does anyone really use the iPhone as a phone?
My conclusion: The iPhone is really an iToy. Fantastic interface, excellent with data, truly remarkable product. But it is not a phone. It is an iPod Touch with 3G data.
The iPhone is amazing, but it could be so much more (ie. an actual phone).
I'm sadly resigned to returning the iPhone and getting a Droid, which may very well be inferior to the iPhone in most ways. But I need a phone.
I am a long time Verizon customer and Mac owner. I recently bought an iPhone. I wanted to see what I thought of the iPhone then compare side-by-side to the Droid.
Here's my take on the iPhone from a Verizon customer perspective:
Overall Interface -- awesome.
Apps -- very cool. Still finding neat apps. This is a major, major plus.
Mac integration -- awesome. As a mac user, I really like how the iPhone is built to work with iTunes, iCal, Contacts, etc.
AT&T Service:
Data -- speeds have been very good. No complaints.
Voice -- here is the Achilles heel. Voice calls are simply horrible. Talking to people on the iPhone, people have already asked if I got a new phone... because the call quality is noticeably worse than my Verizon dumb phone.
For purposes of voice calls, I am stunned at how bad of a phone the iPhone is. I'm not trying to bash at all. I love Macs and really want the iPhone to be what the iPhone is supposed to be. But does anyone really use the iPhone as a phone?
My conclusion: The iPhone is really an iToy. Fantastic interface, excellent with data, truly remarkable product. But it is not a phone. It is an iPod Touch with 3G data.
The iPhone is amazing, but it could be so much more (ie. an actual phone).
I'm sadly resigned to returning the iPhone and getting a Droid, which may very well be inferior to the iPhone in most ways. But I need a phone.
I guess it depends on your area. My transition has been seamless and I came from Verizon too. My voice calls have actually gotten better in some areas.
I do. I guess I'm one of the few people who have had zero problems with AT&T's service and been fortunate enough to receive crystal clear phone reception. Granted, I only talk to one person for the majority of my phone conversations, but she's even on a different network and the iPhone works perfectly.
I have heard that in some areas of the country AT&T service suffers and in turn the voice quality is sub par. The best solution for those people, as you concluded, is to use a different carrier.
I'm single with and I recently dumped my GF so I have more than enough money to blow on shiny new gadgets.
Really though, I think Verizon has a 30-day trial period so I could use the phone then cancel the service before the 30 days is up and not be locked into a contract.
The iPhone isn't bad, I'm just bored with it and I like gadgets. I've probably owned at least 6 different phones over the past 18 months. I also want to own an Android phone and since AT&T isn't getting one any time soon, I'll go to someone that does have one. No big deal really.
Android 2.0 handsets are the first mobiles to appear in 2 years which may lure me away from the iPhone. In that time the competition have caught up with Apple and my iPhone 3GS OS is looking dated now. Apple need a major upgrade next time around or I think lots of long term iPhone owners will switch to something new.
You need to weigh the pros and cons of a UI overhaul on the average customer. While geeks like us would love a fresh UI, how will the millions of average iPhone and iPod Touch owners react? If it works, don't fix it. Geeks like us will always want something new. Heck, I am an Android Developer with a Dev G1, despite being an iPhone owner from 2G to 3GS. I wanted something new, simple as that. But average customers don't really like constant change as they don't adapt to UIs as easily.
I'm hoping Apple have some great innovations planned for the iPhone next year, new ideas which I'd not even considered they would or could do which will set them apart from other OS which have gained ground on them. Hopefully they can do so. They surprised me with my Magic Mouse which I now love so hopefully the iPhone will get the development it needs.
Normally you would not, but if you happen to be using the phone whilst standing between California and Pine St on Montgomery, the intergalactic federation of space puppies may (and I stress may) slice open your belly and swallow your souuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuul.
i agree. the hero is a really nice phone. i love the grippy rubbery back and the android software keyboard is just as good as the iphones. the only problem is the hardware. it's a little sluggish sometimes. and the chin, ofc. nice to hold and use, but not comfortable in a pocket.
My friend has a Hero, and whilst I still love my iPhone, the Hero's soft-touch back, is awesome(similar to the Incase Slider iPhone case in feel). The Hero's virtual QWERTY is better than the iPhone's keyboard(as awesome as that is), in my opinion.
It's only let down, by a lack of CPU horsepower and I guess, RAM.
It's only let down, by a lack of CPU horsepower and I guess, RAM.
What about the OS is looking dated?
I think you said it best yourself. It is "looking" dated. That doesn't mean it is dated. Next summer, when another iPhone comes out, you'll see the competition scrambling once again to catch up. That's how it's been for the past two years.
Remember, Android isn't a new OS. And, the Droid isn't the first phone that has had the iPhone square in it's sights.