Strange. I listen to TuneIn radio or Slingplayer audio all night long and never lost wifi when locked.
As it should work too - the phone is in use, althought locked, and the network stays active when listening radio.
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iPhone wastes 100s of megabytes on mobile data when connected to Wifi
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As it should work too - the phone is in use, althought locked, and the network stays active when listening radio.
If data is such a concern, why do you let your phone automatically do data-intensive things? Try turning off automatic downloads, push notifications, etc....
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Why didn't you turn them off before? Clearly this is your fault, as you allowed automatic updates to occur... it isn't apple. You very likely only recently have downloaded some apps (or some apps you own have had updates) that allow them to do thing in the background, with your permission. You never told them to stop.
Just giving general `safe` advice, in the end you are absolutely correct, if he can bump up to 2 GB and it's enough, then so be it, but I was keeping in mind his desire for automation, which in that case, automatic app updates might be a big offender.
Just turned off wifi and turned it back on. Att wifi calling was active within 10 seconds of wifi being turned back on.
Of course, this is all on the OP. Apple was never to blame.
The laughable part to all this was his assertion that it was. Now with some settings turned off, he should be fine.
Not a chance. Even AT&T support has said 2 minutes is 100% normal. If you go into airplane mode and then wifi on. It will take a minimum of 2 minutes it activate AT&T WiFi.
But regardless. Let's take your 10 second claim to be true. My point still stands. It would take 10 seconds for AT&T WiFi to appear. But when I wake my home screen I'm already connected to AT&T WiFi therefore proving my phone does not drop WiFi when sleeping.
When I knew I had data limits, the first thing I did was went through settings to prevent any automatic data usage... Seems like the logical thing to do. The OP never did, and now wants to blame Apple for his obvious mistakes.
Laughable? What is laughable about Apples phone updating apps automatically over cellular network despite the user having connected the phone to his own wifi?
That means IOS uses the mobile network on its own action, without user input, which means IOS spends money the user has not himself actively accepted. I absolutely think that IOS should tell you "automatic updates will happen over your cellular network" when you turn this on.
You are aware that the iPhone is a subsidized business model by the network companies? And the fact that they perfectly knew this to be a cost without none of this information hitting the end user has me rightfully suspicious.
Yes, we get it.
Its everyone elses fault but your own.
You have no responsibility of monitoring your data usage or turning off the option that YOU enabled to automatically update app store apps over cellular network.
Bad Apple
How is it my fault? Did I design IOS and implement automatic downloads? That for some reason the phone wants to do on cellular network? Even when the user has told the phone to be on wifi?Yes, we get it.
Its everyone elses fault but your own.
You have no responsibility of monitoring your data usage or turning off the option that YOU enabled to automatically update app store apps over cellular network.
Bad Apple
Should I monitor my phones usage when its inactive and make sure that it really is using my wifi that I have connected it to?
There should be a button that says "Always use wifi". Just so you can make sure that the phone gets it. Cause its not clear enough obviously. Have you seen those coffee shops advertising "Free wifi"? Where people come in to escape the costly mobile network? Now get ready to blow their mind. It doesnt matter anyway.
No need to read further. User input is necessary. Did you even read the terms and conditions?
Settings are defaulted by Apple to the most common or most convenient setting. It's entirely your fault that you failed to even consider going through, despite your lack of data, to prevent any automatic or pushed sequences from taking your data. It's the most common sensical thing to do. Why didn't you?
There is a button.. Its called "Use Cellular Data"...
You enabled a setting that is off by default.
Settings/itunes & App Store/ use cellular data for automatic downloads.
You still dont get.
I never have that problem because I never turned on that option.
I only do updates manually and I check and install them when Im on wifi.
You keep claiming that the phone did it but the updates might have been downloaded when you were away from wifi, like others told you above the time your carrier reports carrier data used is not real time exact second. It takes a while for the network to collect all your data from various cell towers, calculate and then display its usage to you.
But I get it, its the big bad Apple conspiring with your carrier trying to steal your money
It is your responsibility to review phone settings and adjust accordingly to what falls inline with your calling plan, etc.
I got my first smartphone last Oct. And you can bet your a**, I went thru all the setting screens to make sure the phone was set the way I wanted.
If a particular setting was unclear, I made a note to find out later what it did. Under no circumstances did I believe if Apple defaulted to turning something ON/OFF that it was necessarily the setting I should go with.
You apparently only did this after you were told by your carrier that you were over the limit.
In short, you were lazy.
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Lets take it down a notice, people seem to be getting a bit worked up over this. Please stay civil and be polite.
Lets take it down a notice, people seem to be getting a bit worked up over this. Please stay civil and be polite.
Now, I don't want to be 'that guy' but this is one reason why I switched to Android. When I was on a 200MB data limit on iPhone 4s, the phone would sneakly use up a third of it in the background. So I had to pay more money. Not fun.
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...who are you talking to?
Precisely 0 people brought up the storage capacity of the phone before yourself just now.
9.3.2, but because am on a metered plan, am always careful with cellular data. I go into my Apps and for most of them have selected DO NOT use cellular data, then my WIFI Assist is OFF. Lastly because am one of those wackos who don't like to be bothered, almost always tell my Apps DO NOT send me notifications. YMMV.
It's interesting to read all of that given that this kind of thing has been around for years (and this is just a subset of threads just here at MR--given that there are more in other places online, in addition to various articles/blogs about it--that bring it up):
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...phone-goes-into-sleep-mode-is-locked.1985513/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-6-wifi-turns-off-when-locked.1968340/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/wifi-logs-out-every-time-i-lock-my-iphone-5c.1954121/
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...g-wifi-when-locked-and-not-on-charge.1836063/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/wifi-disables-when-locked-when-charging.1717203/
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...fi-randomly-when-the-phone-is-locked.1699640/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/does-wifi-still-disconnect-when-phone-is-locked.1636347/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/iphone-5-wifi-cuts-off-when-locked.1494167/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/phone-reverts-to-lte-from-wifi-when-screen-locked.1466183/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/wifi-disconnects-when-locked.1454385/
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/when-my-iphone-is-locked-is-it-connected-to-wifi-or-3g.863542/
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There must be certain conditions that must be met for WiFi to shut off. And I'm assuming that low cellular signal is one of them. Maybe shutting off WiFi when you have 4 or 5 bars will save battery but it will most definitely hurt battery life if you have 1 bar like I do at home.
There are certainly some conditions that have been more or less established where it doesn't/shouldn't happen, like when plugged in to a power source, or when cellular data/signal is disabled or not available or perhaps something else like that. There might be more these days with WiFi calling being in play, for example. But WiFi disconnecting at least after some time once the device has been locked (assuming there's a cellular connection that is enabled and no power source) doesn't appear to be all that unusual and in some senses even seems to be the norm for the most part.
It's hard to say what the expected behavior is really supposed to be since I don't quite recall ever coming across it being officially (or even really unofficially) being documented in some way, just basically observations and conclusions that people have been able to draw over the years essentially.