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For the tasks and apps made for iOS devices now and in the immediate future, the iPad Pro models have more performance than necessary.

I'm totally for new things coming out that do new things or existing things better. I mean that the whole point of progress. My one frustrating is how quickly existing things seem to lose their previous performance on existing tasks.

iPad 3 was an extreme case, but after 3 years it was almost impossible to use... something as simple as keyboard input could lag upwards of 5-10 seconds. it was insane. and I can already see it creeping in gradually on the 9.7" pro.

I totally agree that the last few generations at least should have way more than enough power for most use cases for these types of devices. but it feels like they take advantage of that rapidly advancing hardware power to leave their software tuned to run even the most basic things like keyboard entry smoothly on only that latest most insanely overpowered piece of hardware.

if we reach a point where an a9x or a10x can't handle basic text entry without heavy input delay on a supported version of iOS, that is at very least a shameful bit of programming and at worst a lousy attempt to drive upgrades.

basically I'm with you, that yes, a new piece of hardware shouldn't magically make an old piece of hardware any less useful than when you bought it. but the software that gets pushed and nag screens you to death until you install it, can.
 
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Can you run 3 apps and drag and drop between multiple apps on an iPhone X?

No?

Ok. I’mma stick with this iPad then.

Modern iOS devices are WAY over powered for what anyone needs at this point. They are tools. Stop worrying and just enjoy them.
 
I'm pretty annoyed really, they could've put the latest chip inside the iPad Pro, i bout mine pretty much when it came out, it's supposed to be top of the heap in Apple's iOS devices and is superseded 2-3 months later... that's not enough time in between. I don't need facial recognition, OLEd in the iPad just yet, but give me the friggin fastest chip you have going

Still top heap.

The A10X is still a considerably more powerful chip right now. It has twice (or 1/3) more RAM than the A11 and has much stronger graphics. The A11 may be able to top it with a spike in CPU performance from all 6 cores working simultaneously, but will quickly reach it's thermal limit and slow down. I'd wager the A10X can sustain a more CPU power without throttling for far longer.

Now the A11X is coming and will easily overpower the A10X, but that's how it goes. I think it's telling that they used the A10X and not the A11 in the  TV 4k
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They stabbed each other apple pencil. I was talking about a11 bionic chip..with benchmark.

I wouldn't' say they killed it. It sprinted ahead and and fell back.

The A10X is still more powerful than the A11 for heavy use and sustained workloads. The A11X will kill it all...until the A12
 
Still top heap.

The A10X is still a considerably more powerful chip right now. It has twice (or 1/3) more RAM than the A11 and has much stronger graphics. The A11 may be able to top it with a spike in CPU performance from all 6 cores working simultaneously, but will quickly reach it's thermal limit and slow down. I'd wager the A10X can sustain a more CPU power without throttling for far longer.

Now the A11X is coming and will easily overpower the A10X, but that's how it goes. I think it's telling that they used the A10X and not the A11 in the  TV 4k
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I wouldn't' say they killed it. It sprinted ahead and and fell back.

The A10X is still more powerful than the A11 for heavy use and sustained workloads. The A11X will kill it all...until the A12
Yeah, but that's why i said they both served different purpose. They're both good anyway.
 
The iPad Pro is already way more powerful than necessary imo, almost none of the software takes advantage of it as far as I know. I mean even the last gen iPad Pro is overpowered, same with the iPhone. The hardware is way ahead of the software available for iOS now, so being a little more powerful doesn't mean much to me anymore
 
I'm pretty annoyed really, they could've put the latest chip inside the iPad Pro, i bout mine pretty much when it came out, it's supposed to be top of the heap in Apple's iOS devices and is superseded 2-3 months later... that's not enough time in between. I don't need facial recognition, OLEd in the iPad just yet, but give me the friggin fastest chip you have going


Cmon, there is not a single app on App Store which uses fully our current A10X let alone an A11, so calm down. Our iPad Pros are still freaking fast, at least mine is...
 
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Cmon, there is not a single app on App Store which uses fully our current A10X let alone an A11, so calm down. Our iPad Pros are still freaking fast, at least mine is...
Not true at all. I use Lightroom and Affinity Photo and they fully maximise the speed of the A10X when editing large RAW photos.

For video editing with LumaFusion - more speed wouldn't hurt for 4K videos.

Bring on the A11X :)
 
Who cares.. the iPad has promotion display.. :D Gonna take a while till it gets old
 
Who cares.. the iPad has promotion display.. :D Gonna take a while till it gets old

The general public doesn't know anything about a Promotion display. They are generally amazed by OLED screens currently. You are definitely in the minority in terms of 120 hz screen fandom, your best bet for your enthusiasm is on a gaming forum were tons of users play "actual games" with 144 HZ monitors. it seems more useful for actual videogames.
 
Has it ever been the case that the next gen iPhone has not been more powerful than the preceding iPad?

7 was more powerful than 1st gen pros
6s was more powerful than air 2
6 was more powerful than air
5s was more powerful than 4
5 was more powerful than 3 and 2
4s was more powerful than 1.

Why should now be any different?
you are mixing generations. The iPhone that came after the first iPad launched was the 4, not the 4s.
 
you are mixing generations. The iPhone that came after the first iPad launched was the 4, not the 4s.
No, we’re talking about successive chipset generations...
iPad = A4, 4s = A5
iPad 2/3 =A5(x), iPhone 5 = A6
iPad 4 = A6x, iPhone 5s = A7
...up to...
iPad Pro = A10x, iPhone X = A11.

You’re right to say that the A4 and A5 chipsets were introduced with the iPad before the iPhone of the same generation, but that’s not the same thing, that’s like comparing the 2nd gen pros to the iPhone 7.
 
The general public doesn't know anything about a Promotion display. They are generally amazed by OLED screens currently. You are definitely in the minority in terms of 120 hz screen fandom, your best bet for your enthusiasm is on a gaming forum were tons of users play "actual games" with 144 HZ monitors. it seems more useful for actual videogames.

Meh, actually there is a big difference. Everything seems more smooth, almost night and day. You can compare it to the old Mac days back in the early 00's, where OS X was smooth, and windows chopped along in the UI department.

I think its very useful when skimming through a page, since you can actually read the page, while scrolling faster than normal.
 
iPhone X's brand new chip is now more powerful than the Intel chips powering some of Apple's 2017 MacBook Pros.
 
Well sadly a 2yrs old A9x iPhone 6s and 1gen iPad Pro won’t be able to capture and encode HEVC and HEIC.
 
The A11 has all 6 module running together while the A10 can have then 2 high speed or the 4 passive running but not both. Plus, it much smaller then the A10 is.
 
The A11 has all 6 module running together while the A10 can have then 2 high speed or the 4 passive running but not both. Plus, it much smaller then the A10 is.
It would appear the A11 is slightly more powerful, (when looking at the benchmarks,) but when needing to maintain a higher clock speed, the A10X beats out the A11, (A10X has more high power cores.)
So in terms of day to day usage and raw performance (being used for long periods)... the iPP will beat out the iPhone. Again the iPP has 3 high power cores with 3 efficiency cores, so it can maintain 2.4Ghz longer....
The iPhone has 2 high power cores and 4 efficiency cores. A11 is still way powerful, but the iPP can maintain higher speeds (and plus the A10X is actually just a few hundred points away from the A11 already.)
Now when the A11X comes out... it will be a different story, but we won’t see that for another year or so.

Also put into account the increase of 4GBs RAM as well compared to iphone’s 3GBs, it makes a difference.
At the end of the day though, when using both devices... can you tell any difference?



Kallum.
 
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How do you guys feel about the iPhone X, 8 and 8 Plus being more powerful than the 2nd generation iPad Pro devices when a so-called PC replacement has less power than a phone that has less functionality???

Especially considering the iPad Pro was released only months before the A11 existed........

But look at the iPad Pro 2 metal tests in the Geekbench scores, they are 2 x as high as iPhone X?????
http://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks
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https://browser.geekbench.com/ios-benchmarks

Check out the metal benchmarks on the above link,

It shows the A9X graphic performance better than the A10.

I bet it will show similar when comparing the A10X with A11.

Exactly! I feel like i am taking crazy pills! Doesn’t everyone see this?
 
Meh, actually there is a big difference. Everything seems more smooth, almost night and day. You can compare it to the old Mac days back in the early 00's, where OS X was smooth, and windows chopped along in the UI department.

I think its very useful when skimming through a page, since you can actually read the page, while scrolling faster than normal.
ofc promotion is a big step forward...i saw the biggest difference and the most best user experience into the 12.9", so i think the bigger display the more pleasant experience you have. I have the 10.5" and when i go to my iphone....you feel the difference in experience , from the unlocking animations, to scrolling zooming etc
I really hope Apple let promotion for 2018 iphones, and future macs
 
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