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In the future, take care of any exchange of transaction at a police station, at the Apple Store, or wherever there is surveillance.
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True, but it could happen in reverse. A guy could bait a buyer into a phone and run with the money. As I advised, always take care of transactions inside some establishment that has surveillance. Both of you have to be seated at a table for the exchange; not standing allowing the other to get away should that be the intent.
Yup baited me, had a stack of cash in his hand. he pretended to hand it over. and took off that moment.
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This doesn't make sense. Even if icloud is turned off, your passcode is still in effect. Even if he entered his icloud credentials, when the phone turns off, he will need to enter your passcode to unlock, or if you have faceID, unlock with your faceID. Unless you did a complete wipe before you sold the phone.

When I removed the iCloud. I didn't go to settings and iCloud, I went to erase all content and settings.
 
Yup baited me, had a stack of cash in his hand. he pretended to hand it over. and took off that moment.
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When I removed the iCloud. I didn't go to settings and iCloud, I went to erase all content and settings.

You will have no luck with the police. Even if they trace him via his IP address, it's your word against his. He could say he paid you, and now you are trying to get your phone back by filing false charges and blacklisting the phone. With no witnesses, you are out of luck.
 
You will have no luck with the police. Even if they trace him via his IP address, it's your word against his. He could say he paid you, and now you are trying to get your phone back by filing false charges and blacklisting the phone. With no witnesses, you are out of luck.
There’s video surveillance of what happened.
 
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Not everyone is a sprinter who just happens to be wearing running shoes. And what if you catch up and a fight ensues? Better to lose an iPhone than a few teeth. I imagine 5 minutes was enough time for this loser to get to a place where he could log in. I hope the OP gets his phone back.

Well that's why you make you know to defend yourself so you don't lose any teeth.
 
You will have no luck with the police. Even if they trace him via his IP address, it's your word against his. He could say he paid you, and now you are trying to get your phone back by filing false charges and blacklisting the phone. With no witnesses, you are out of luck.
I don’t know why your constantly questioning me. Yeah I’m trying to commit fraud. When there’s video surveillance. Bruh.
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Brutal story, sorry OP. That really sucks.
(sigh) I know. First iPhone that has been stolen from me. On the plus side I only paid $550 for the phone.
 
I don’t know why your constantly questioning me. Yeah I’m trying to commit fraud. When there’s video surveillance. Bruh.
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(sigh) I know. First iPhone that has been stolen from me. On the plus side I only paid $550 for the phone.
I'm not questioning you. I'm just saying the guy can claim you tried to defraud him. I'm glad there was video surveillance. Let's just hope it was actually working and it produces a clear picture.
 
I don’t know why your constantly questioning me. Yeah I’m trying to commit fraud. When there’s video surveillance. Bruh.
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(sigh) I know. First iPhone that has been stolen from me. On the plus side I only paid $550 for the phone.
This happen in Toronto? I live in the GTA and there are a lot of scumbags around here, terrible situation.
 
My local police station has parking spaces under surveillance just for sales and exchanges.
Ours is actively encouraging people to do sales/exchanges in front of police stations. They have signs indicating where to stand, cameras, etc.

It’s a win-win: they don’t have to take reports on almost unsolvable crimes (driving their rates down), people feel much more safe making deals, and people with nefarious intentions will likely not bother showing up.
 
I'm not questioning you. I'm just saying the guy can claim you tried to defraud him. I'm glad there was video surveillance. Let's just hope it was actually working and it produces a clear picture.
Unfortunately, the video footage isn’t clear.
 
I hope they catch him, but I wouldn't be surprised if he has sold it already, or is in the process of selling it. He probably knows it is blacklisted and will try to dump it off on someone else before the networks lock it out.
Yeah, that's what I thought, but his Apple ID is still connected to it from the time it was stolen, the Apple ID was connected with my device 5 minutes after he got away. and find my iPhone is still on as of now. The network is already locked out.

There are only 5 possible outcomes
He's using the phone for his personal use
The phone will be exported to another country for use
The phone will be replaced through apple (which is no longer possible as I've left notes under the serial number that the device is stolen, and cannot be serviced)
The phone will be sold on the marketplace somewhere (Letgo, kijiji, craigslist, facebook marketplace) MOST LIKELY
The phone will be used as parts.

But im kinda confused as to why he still has the phone.
 
Yeah, that's what I thought, but his Apple ID is still connected to it from the time it was stolen, the Apple ID was connected with my device 5 minutes after he got away. and find my iPhone is still on as of now. The network is already locked out.

There are only 5 possible outcomes
He's using the phone for his personal use
The phone will be exported to another country for use
The phone will be replaced through apple (which is no longer possible as I've left notes under the serial number that the device is stolen, and cannot be serviced)
The phone will be sold on the marketplace somewhere (Letgo, kijiji, craigslist, facebook marketplace) MOST LIKELY
The phone will be used as parts.

But im kinda confused as to why he still has the phone.

How does your stolen iPhone appear to you as "online" if you've signed out/ removed the phone from your account by using "Erase All Settings"? Was that information provided to you by your network provider?
 
Yeah, that's what I thought, but his Apple ID is still connected to it from the time it was stolen, the Apple ID was connected with my device 5 minutes after he got away. and find my iPhone is still on as of now. The network is already locked out.

There are only 5 possible outcomes
He's using the phone for his personal use
The phone will be exported to another country for use
The phone will be replaced through apple (which is no longer possible as I've left notes under the serial number that the device is stolen, and cannot be serviced)
The phone will be sold on the marketplace somewhere (Letgo, kijiji, craigslist, facebook marketplace) MOST LIKELY
The phone will be used as parts.

But im kinda confused as to why he still has the phone.

I am confused about something, if the thief is using the phone with his Apple ID then as far as Apple's servers are concerned, he is the rightful owner of the phone so how is it that you are still able to know that 'find my phone' is still active because nothing should be sent to you from Apples servers.
 
I am confused about something, if the thief is using the phone with his Apple ID then as far as Apple's servers are concerned, he is the rightful owner of the phone so how is it that you are still able to know that 'find my phone' is still active because nothing should be sent to you from Apples servers.
I called Apple support.
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How does your stolen iPhone appear to you as "online" if you've signed out/ removed the phone from your account by using "Erase All Settings"? Was that information provided to you by your network provider?
First. I never said the phone was online. All the info. Was provided from apple when I called them.
 
Sad story but good lesson for others, I'd NEVER meet face to face to sell something small like an Iphone. I've met face to face to sell tires and a canoe but I was pretty confident the buyer wouldn't be able to run off with those before paying. For small and especially expensive small items it's always ONLINE and payment through paypal. At least you're somewhat protected from scammers that way and paypal is pretty good at getting you the money.
 
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Happened to me as well... He asked me to show him the phone etc and the next thing you know he took off running. I called AMEX to see if my theft protection covered my X but they denied the claim since the phone was purchased in 2017. Such a bummer dude... I tried to sell it off of OfferUp. I hate thiefs!
 
Sorry to hear about this, OP. Hopefully they catch the scumbag. The only place you should sell a phone should be Swappa. As far as I'm aware sellers and buyers can ship to and from Canada? It is the best and safest way.

If for some reason I sell a phone in person, if it's an iPhone, I insist on meeting at an Apple store and schedule a genius bar appointment. Ample security always at Apple plus there's video surveillance. If it's an Android, I insist on meeting at my carrier store, where there are always security guards at the doors. If those aren't acceptable to the buyer, I ignore them or bail on them.

If there aren't any physical carrier stores or Apple stores near you, stick with Swappa or another reputable online service. Never do an in person transaction if you can avoid it, can't trust anyone.
 
Sorry to hear about this, OP. Hopefully they catch the scumbag. The only place you should sell a phone should be Swappa. As far as I'm aware sellers and buyers can ship to and from Canada? It is the best and safest way.

If for some reason I sell a phone in person, if it's an iPhone, I insist on meeting at an Apple store and schedule a genius bar appointment. Ample security always at Apple plus there's video surveillance. If it's an Android, I insist on meeting at my carrier store, where there are always security guards at the doors. If those aren't acceptable to the buyer, I ignore them or bail on them.

If there aren't any physical carrier stores or Apple stores near you, stick with Swappa or another reputable online service. Never do an in person transaction if you can avoid it, can't trust anyone.

I'm not sure what advantages meeting at an Apple Store provides when store staff have been instructed not to pursue thieves, even when it comes to Apple Store inventory.
 
I’ve always been weary of selling expensive electronics face to face. Although I recently for the first time met face to face to purchase a router and I did not follow any of the recommended guidelines. I went alone and met them inside their house. But the transaction went smoothly.

But stories like these makes me glad I continue to sell on eBay or swappa.
 
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