Disagree. You're Comparing two different types of biometric security as well. Face ID uses different components than touch ID did, which we can only assume that Apple is going to increase hardware components for Face ID, especially given if they plan on expanding this technology into the iPad or other devices in the future.
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iPhone X iPhone X: The five worst features in Apple's best phone
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Disagree. You're Comparing two different types of biometric security as well. Face ID uses different components than touch ID did, which we can only assume that Apple is going to increase hardware components for Face ID, especially given if they plan on expanding this technology into the iPad or other devices in the future.
FaceID is a new technology in terms of how it was developed. It took Apple 3 releases of TouchID v2 to release FaceID v1. It stands to believe that if Apple were to implement the same level of detail into ensuring its "just works" for FaceID v2, that'd they invest some time to get it working right while making it quicker and less prone to error.
Arguably you also infer that because we already have FaceID v1, Apple could easily learn from the current tech and improve from that and then release sooner. However, I still believe that it might be 2020.
I would bet on a cycle like TouchID:
V1 TouchID intro: 5S
ongoing R&D; still selling v1: 6
V2 TouchID: 6S
So if that cycle repeats with the X, it would be the iPhone "12," introduced two years later (i.e., 2019), that would have the second gen FaceID tech.
FaceID is probably more complex, so maybe 2020 or later is what happens. Alternatively, Apple has probably been pouring resources into FaceID for years, so it's possible that they have gen 2 ready for commercial release only one year later (I wouldn't take that bet, though).
In the end, none of us knows. Given the bumpy ride that the X had to its commercial release, it's very likely that even Apple can't actually say when FaceID v2 will actually hit the street.
V1 TouchID intro: 5S
ongoing R&D; still selling v1: 6
V2 TouchID: 6S
So if that cycle repeats with the X, it would be the iPhone "12," introduced two years later (i.e., 2019), that would have the second gen FaceID tech.
FaceID is probably more complex, so maybe 2020 or later is what happens. Alternatively, Apple has probably been pouring resources into FaceID for years, so it's possible that they have gen 2 ready for commercial release only one year later (I wouldn't take that bet, though).
In the end, none of us knows. Given the bumpy ride that the X had to its commercial release, it's very likely that even Apple can't actually say when FaceID v2 will actually hit the street.
My belief is that Apple tried very hard to embed TouchID into the X. Many of the reliable rumors were reporting this at the time. When the yield rates could not be improved, Apple went solely with FaceID. So Apple most certainly was pouring resources into FaceID for years to have it ready for the X. Perhaps we were supposed to get both TouchID and FaceID? No one knows. (Forgive me, I am going solely on rumors and not concrete proof).
Totally plausible. And rumors and hearsay and conjecture is all those of on the outside have got...though I guess if I had spare time and were motivated, it might be interesting and informative to go back and trace the supply chain rumors from the year or so preceding last September's new iPhone intros.
Part of what I believe when I look at this (not a timing issue) is that Apple has been so relentless about removing tech that some visionary in the Inner Sanctum has foreseen is obsolete, and they've been doing this for quite a while. As I said here or somewhere else recently, DVD drives...SD card slots...3.5mm audio jacks...MagSafe...USB-A ports...I'm sure there are more good examples. So, it would not surprise me at all if someone at Apple had arbitrarily decreed that fingerprints are not secure or convenient enough for The Future, as Apple sees it, and banished TouchID.
But in the end, who knows.
