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This is exactly how Face ID functions according to the white paper released by Apple.

Face ID will periodically use successful scans of your face to add to the matrix. On failures to recognize, but then after a successful passcode entry and within a certain threshold, it will mess those copies in to learn drastic changes faster.

https://images.apple.com/business/docs/FaceID_Security_Guide.pdf

"The following Face ID data is saved, encrypted only for use by the Secure Enclave, during normal operation:
• The mathematical representations of your face calculated during enrollment.
The mathematical representations of your face calculated during some unlock attempts if Face ID deems them useful to augment future matching."

"To improve unlock performance and keep pace with the natural changes of your face and look, Face ID augments its stored mathematical representation over time. Upon successful unlock, Face ID may use the newly calculated mathematical representation—if its quality is sufficient—for a finite number of additional unlocks before that data is discarded. Conversely, if Face ID fails to recognize you, but the match quality is higher than a certain threshold and you immediately follow the failure by entering your passcode, Face ID takes another capture and augments its enrolled Face ID data with the newly calculated mathematical representation."

Very helpful. Thank you both.
 
Do I miss Touch ID? Short answer: Nope! This is coming from a guy who originally thought that having only Face ID with no additional implementation of Touch ID whether located under the screen, on the back of the iPhone or even embedded in the side button (much like the razer android phone) would be a deal breaker. After using my iPhone X and Face ID after the first couple of days, I have fallen in love at how incredibly convenient it is to use. Face ID for unlocking phone, unlocking apps that require login and password (like mobile banking apps), iCloud Keychain for auto fill in safari, etc. It’s so incredibly convenient because it’s both secure and is passive (a lot of the time the unlock happens so fast, I don’t even realize it) in most scenarios. Can’t imagine going back to only Touch ID now!
 
Yeah, unfortunately. Too small for me....otherwise it’s great! Waiting for x plus. How’s your, ff?
understandable.
i'm coming from a 6s so to me, the size is sweet.

i have no complaints about the X and i'm glad i bought one.


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regarding the thread title-- no, i don't miss touchID.. after using faceID for a few weeks now, i will say i definitely prefer faceID over touchID on iPhones.
 
Hi everyone - just as the question says, (particularly iPhone 6s and 7 users since there was faster Touch ID)

Do you miss Touch ID? This is the main thing holding me back from upgrading my 7.

I use Touch ID all the time for things like coffees and apps for banking and also using the London Underground.

I’m travelling to Canada this Christmas so the phone will be a BIT cheaper than the UK, just wondering if I’ll miss my 7?

Thoughts?

Is Face ID cumbersome compared to Touch ID?

Not really. Sure using FaceID with iPhone on a flat surface is kinda tricky, but to be honest that's kinda a far stretch and complicated by some people. It is perfecly fine. I'm kinda surprised how well it works at night time even in the dark.

I like both TouchID and FaceID. They are excellent implementations for security biometrics, I don't miss either one or feel some form of remorse. You adapt quickly and you're happy faster than you think. Trust me, I have faced the same dilemma before like you said initially in your OP.

One thing i find FaceID fast is accessing passwords and logins on 3rd party apps [Banking, Safari Hotmail Gmail passwords etc] I love it! Because i'm already looking at the phone it is seamless, with touchid in some cases i need to still juggle my hand a bit.

Then again, remember they are both good and I don't have any remorse ditching one for the other.
[doublepost=1511270805][/doublepost]On a sidenote, I noticed iOS 11.2 beta 3/4 made TouchID on my mother's iPhone 8 get out of the lock screen so much faster... has anyone noticed that? The animations aren't so slow but much more swifter.
 
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FWIW, I put on glasses, pulled a hoodie up, and had a bandana pulled up to where it covered my bottom lip - so effectively no neck or chin area being scanned and it worked with almost complete accuracy.

wow that's crazy. I had one of my moisturizing charcoal face masks on and didn't recognize me the entire time I had it on.

Apple Pay works great though (just wish more stores in my area updated their terminals)
 
I miss it in some situations, but realize there are times when Face ID works better. The biggest annoyance for me is when my phone is down on a table, say at a meeting or restaurant, and I want to unlock it to check something without picking it up, I need to lean over the table or pick it up to unlock it and then put it back down. The other annoyance is if it fails to read the first time, you can't just try again like Touch ID, you need to move the phone away and then back or press the sleep button and wake it back up.
 
wow that's crazy. I had one of my moisturizing charcoal face masks on and didn't recognize me the entire time I had it on.

Apple Pay works great though (just wish more stores in my area updated their terminals)

The tolerance is really close - I could move the bandada up to cover my upper lip, it didn't work, it was like a 1/2" up or down. It's interesting, I wonder if there's something to the effect of a "notable feature", where the system recognizes clearly unique facial structures and makes them a key part of the identification. Neat stuff!
 
I miss it in some situations, but realize there are times when Face ID works better. The biggest annoyance for me is when my phone is down on a table, say at a meeting or restaurant, and I want to unlock it to check something without picking it up, I need to lean over the table or pick it up to unlock it and then put it back down. The other annoyance is if it fails to read the first time, you can't just try again like Touch ID, you need to move the phone away and then back or press the sleep button and wake it back up.


That was my main concern when discussing it before it came out. I have a tendency to look at my phone in my lap while holding it under a desk. Definitely can't do that now.

I'll spread the advice a font gave me in a earlier post, apparently all you have to do is swipe up again and it will read your face again or ask you to type in your passcode. That's the only way it will learn. I'm going to try that for now on, instead of getting frustrated. Hopefully, it'll learn my face in various situations and won't have the errors much longer.
 
That was my main concern when discussing it before it came out. I have a tendency to look at my phone in my lap while holding it under a desk. Definitely can't do that now.

I'll spread the advice a font gave me in a earlier post, apparently all you have to do is swipe up again and it will read your face again or ask you to type in your passcode. That's the only way it will learn. I'm going to try that for now on, instead of getting frustrated. Hopefully, it'll learn my face in various situations and won't have the errors much longer.

It should learn! I can open mine if it is on my lap either flat, or I am tilting it slightly as if I was going to send a quick text, and there is a desk sort of above it. Obviously the desk can't be blocking the entire view of my face, but Face ID has learned to "read my face" when I am sort of looking down on it, chin pointed down a bit, while the phone is at lap level if I am sitting.
 
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Please tell me what issues you are having, maybe I will face the same issue if I use like you.

The biggest issue for me even after over two weeks of use is I just can't find a consistent angle that always works. This is mostly an issue at the gym due to the frequency I lock and unlock the phone when logging completed exercises and sets.

Right now as I'm sitting at my desk, I tried two unlock methods. Looking at my phone while it's sitting in the wireless charing dock in an upright position. It unlocked without issue and fast. I tried to hold it in my hand and look down at it similar to the demo video. It again worked without issue and fast.

At the gym and in general when standing / walking I find that I have to hold the phone at an unnatural position
 
Even though I prefer my Watch for  Pay, for grins I just used my X to pay for coffee while wearing gloves.
 
Prefer Face-Id by a long shot. Touch -Id worked most of the time but if your finger was slightly wet or during the winter it was very unreliable. I don't think Face - Id has failed me yet. As a matter of fact I have one app on which I wish it didn't work so great- it is a banking app that I always log out of when I'm done but this app doesn't ask if you want to log in it just does so - I log out and if I'm looking at phone it logs me right back in.

Love FACE-ID
 
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I find Touch ID fantastic but only after I turned off the attention-aware setting. I found it was much more finicky until I disabled this. And yes doing so makes the phone less secure.
 
Just received my Iphone X last night. While it certainly takes an adjustment, I do not miss Touch ID. It makes using my phone in the car a little more of a headache, and I"M PERFECTLY OK WITH IT. The phone has better integration with my car than the 6S Plus did.
 
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The main place I miss it is the fact so few apps have been updated to support it. Also it isn’t as infallible as Touch ID as there are occasions when it doesn’t work to unlock your phone.
 
Hi everyone - just as the question says, (particularly iPhone 6s and 7 users since there was faster Touch ID)

Do you miss Touch ID? This is the main thing holding me back from upgrading my 7.

I use Touch ID all the time for things like coffees and apps for banking and also using the London Underground.

I’m travelling to Canada this Christmas so the phone will be a BIT cheaper than the UK, just wondering if I’ll miss my 7?

Thoughts?

Is Face ID cumbersome compared to Touch ID?
[doublepost=1511303608][/doublepost]I never thought I would say this, but I love Face ID
 
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