This is apple's stubbornness. Landscape home screen is built-in to ios and there's no good reason they shouldn't make it a settings option. They insist they know what's best and that all customers are using their phone in portrait mode. How silly.
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This is apple's stubbornness. Landscape home screen is built-in to ios and there's no good reason they shouldn't make it a settings option. They insist they know what's best and that all customers are using their phone in portrait mode. How silly.
My brother has a X and I have an 8 Plus. We actually traded for a full day just to see how we each liked the other. Granted, 1 day is not extensive testing, and I’m not saying that FaceID and gestures are horrible and I will never get used to them, but I know what works better for me. It’s that simple. In all likelihood I will make the switch next year, but in using the X even for a day I found that it did nothing that my 8 Plus doesn’t do just as well, but I missed TouchID most of all. Everything I’ve seen and read about the Xs, Max, and Xr suggests that they’re just slightly faster X models with better cameras. Still not worth it to me.
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It would mess up the evenly spaced icons because of the notch. I think that’s the entire reason behind its omission.
Totally fair. I apologize for simply assuming you hadn't given it a try before saying it's not for you. Yea I only upgraded my X to the Max for the additional screen size and battery/LTE/WiFi/camera/FaceID improvements. I will say that Face ID is much quicker with the Max. I think that'll only improve with Face ID 2 hopefully next year. In the end, everyone should use what works for the individual. The 8 Plus is still a solid reliable option for a lot of people.
Get some sense.
XR still has a 326 ppi lcd display compared to Max’s 458 ppi OLED. Which to me is a huge letdown. XR display is no better than iPhone 8 display which is already outdated.
The wider bezels will be fine for most people. I'd have no problem with it myself. It's still smaller than the XS Max, yet displays the exact same amount of information as the XS Max.
The OLED will be crisper, but you shouldn't be fooled by the 458 ppi number. The effective pixel density, once you consider the subpixel count, is much higher than 326 ppi, but it's much lower than 458 ppi.
Why? Cuz Apple LCDs have 3 subpixels per pixel. Apple OLEDs have only 2 subpixels per pixel. While the numbers cannot be truly compared directly, nonetheless if you count up the number of subpixels and convert that to LCD type numbers, the equivalent pixel density of Apple's OLEDs is closer to 375 ppi.
I wouldn’t say the X is a bad experience but I also wouldn’t say it’s better. It’s different for me which is why the whole view of ‘better’ is a subjective term. When you say ‘people are moving to the X for the better experience’ then that sounds like a fact when it is actually more to do with preferences and opinion. I’d never disagree with someone who thought the X was a better experience but expect them to accept I may think the 8 is just as good in my own personal opinion.
How will the size of the fonts typically compare on the XR to the 7+ or 8+? If the fonts are smaller for some reason, along with the lower ppi, that may make the Plus models more desirable to me. I want to move from my 6s to a larger screen because of my vision, and reading news or forums play into my choice. 326 is okay for me if the fonts are a little larger than on the 4.7" models. This thread has be opening my mind to the possibility of an 8 Plus, though I really want to check out the XR first.
Default sizes of the XR fonts should be exactly the same as the 4.7" models.
Plus models have bigger default font sizing, similar to the XS and Max.
However, the XR should get Zoomed Display mode. That would make it into a phone that can only display as much information as the XS, but with bigger fonts.
As it’s now less then a month away I would wait to see what the XR is like, the 8 Plus isn’t going anywhere and will still be on sale if you still prefer it
Makes sense to me. I agree. I’ve just found it to be much much better experience and have seen a lot of people on here (many who felt they could never adapt) say the same thing. I respect both sides, as long as you’ve tried it.
Let's go through the numbers:
iPhone SE: 1.96" wide with 320 screen points = 163 points per inch (which is half of 326 ppi)
iPhone 6s: 2.3" wide with 375 screen points = 163 points per inch (which is half of 326 ppi)
iPhone 8+: 2.7" wide with 414 screen points = 153 points per inch
iPhone XR: 2.54" wide with 414 screen points = 163 points per inch (which is half of 326 ppi)
iPhone XS: 2.45" wide with 375 screen points = 153 points per inch (which is one-third of 458 ppi)
iPhone Max: 2.71" wide with 414 screen points = 153 points per inch (which is one-third of 458 ppi)
The lower the points per inch, the larger the font size.
However, all of the above phones except the SE and XS can use Zoomed Display mode. If you use this:
iPhone SE: (Zoomed Display mode not supported)
iPhone 6s: 2.3" wide with 320 screen points = 139 points per inch <-- This turns it into a giant iPhone SE.
iPhone 8+: 2.7" wide with 375 screen points = 139 points per inch <-- This turns it into a giant iPhone 8.
iPhone XR: 2.54" wide with 375 screen points = 148 points per inch <-- This is the odd one out.
iPhone XS: (Zoomed Display mode not supported)
iPhone Max: 2.71" wide with 375 screen points = 139 points per inch <-- This turns it into a giant iPhone XS.
So, for people with bad eyesight, the best setup to use is Zoomed Display mode on the Plus or Max. The XR is an interesting compromise though, since it can use Zoomed Display mode, but with smaller fonts. However, XR in Zoomed Display mode still has bigger fonts than all other iPhones in Standard Display mode including the XS, while displaying the same amount of information as the XS.
IOW, XR with Zoomed Display mode turns it into a big XS, but not a giant XS. To get the giant XS as indicated above, you need a Max with Zoomed Display mode.
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Face ID doesn't always work when:
- The phone is not held in portrait orientation
- The phone is held too close to my face or at an extreme angle
- My finger is wet or sticky
- I am wearing a glove
As for telephoto camera, I use it often enough that I ended up getting XS. My wife almost never does (only a handful of them in 3 years using the Plus-sized iPhones), so she's fine with XR.
That's very helpful--thanks! 6s zoomed makes things more readable, so the XR zoomed should make things readable with more text than the 6s zoomed, if I understand this correctly.
Yes but with a caveat.
Assuming the XR supports zoom (and initial leaks confirm it does), and assuming the XR follows Apple's previous zooming conventions, the XR zoomed will actually have smaller fonts than the 6s zoomed.
6s native 163 points per inch
6s zoomed 139 points per inch
XR native 163 points per inch
XR zoomed 148 points per inch
The smaller the number, the bigger the fonts.
The XR zoomed will have bigger fonts than an XS, but will display the same amount of info as the XS.
The XS displays 22% more info on-screen than the 6s.
The XS displays 68% more info on-screen than the 6s zoomed.
The XR zoomed displays the same amount of info as the XS, which is 22% more info than the 6s non-zoomed, and with bigger fonts than the XS.
The XR zoomed seems like a decent compromise, but the ideal phone for bad eyes is the Max zoomed.
Changing font size just changes font size. Zoomed Display mode changes everything. Basically it turns your phone into the next sized phone down.
SE has no smaller phone with the same aspect ratio so there is no zoom mode.
6s Zoomed Display mode turns it into an SE but with bigger screen.
6s Plus Zoomed Display mode turns it into a 6s but with bigger screen
XS has no smaller phone with the same aspect ratio so there is no zoom mode.
XS Max Zoomed Display mode turns it into a XS but with bigger screen
XR Zoomed Display mode turns it into a XS but with bigger screen, but not as big as XS Max.
Think of it this way. The iPad 2 and iPad mini both show the same amount of information on screen, but the iPad 2 is way bigger, so everything on-screen is bigger.
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It seems that zoom changes all apps and changing font size affects only some. Is that correct? For instance, zooming on MacRumors' online site changes the size of the fonts (and everything) but simply enlarging the fonts seems to have no effect on the fonts.
Yeah, changing the font size alone doesn't do anything for many apps. It seems more for just the UI. You can change the settings for some individual apps, but that is a big pain and some won't support it.
OTOH, if you use Zoomed Display mode, it effectively just emulates a smaller phone. The XS Max essentially becomes an XS, and you only get the same amount of data on-screen as an XS. However, because the screen is much larger, everything is bigger (including fonts).
Basically, Zoomed Display mode on a 2688x1242 Max is emulating the 2436x1125 screen resolution of the XS.
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Font sizes the same but in standard mode the Max shows way more info than XS.
With the Max in Zoomed mode though, the Max and XS show the exact same info. They look identical in fact, but with everything bigger on the Max.
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And has a better PPI than an iPad Pro. How many people complain about the PPI of the Pro?