So ... I don't understand what the serial number is for? Is it just a unique identifier, or is there a particular reason you're using SNs ?
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iPM:It's BBM For The Rest Of Us.
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I'm sorry, I don't understand what advantage this has over IM with BeejiveIm. The primary difference seems to be that it will only work with other iPhone users, an exclusivity which, it seems to me, would make it less useful. And the use of serial numbers makes it more difficult to exchange than an AIM screen name. Even Facebook has gone to usernames, now.
Good question.
As you may now. Blackberry generates a PIN number for every blackberry device. Users use that to communicate with their friends and family. I have created a way that my app uses your serial number off of your device to communicate with friends. Its on the device already and no need to generate anything!
Basically the serial number is like an AIM screen name that allows you to communicate with others.
This works with the iPod Touch as well. Not just iPhone users.
The iPod Touch would need have access to a network though.
My own. I feel that if the user will get the IM's faster if I host it and manage them, and right now the IM's come through pretty fast.
Well, that answers one small part of my concern. It doesn't explain how this is any more useful than AIM or MSN, using which one can chat with users on any number of devices and platforms without the need to exchange serial numbers. Is this just a way to feel part of an exclusive club?
I will answer your question with a question.
Why do blackberry users use BBM as opposed to AIM or MSN?
Because BBM is close to instant IM's and I guess you could say that it feels fun to be part of a cool BBM club.
Also you can talk to people on other networks without costs.
My app is as instant as possible if not faster than BBM. It saves money if you are not on a unlimited texting plan. I hope to develop the same app so that you can use it on BB and Google Android.
BBM is indeed quite similar to MSN/AIM ... but I think BB users like it 'cause of how built-in it is.
It runs in the background, feels very lightweight, runs quick and all that good stuff.
While I applaud you effort, and encourage you to release this, I suspect some users won't be happy until Apple releases a built-in, OS-level "iChat" for iPhone.
They told me its because its built in and they don't have to explain to people how to instal it and get logged in.
Your app can't be described in that way. I still don't see the difference between this and all the other IM apps already out there.
I mean, I'm sure this is a good one, I'm just saying there's nothing that makes it more like BBM than any of the other apps out there already.
Well, the only thing I can see is the use of a number non-owners can't get instead of a username. Like you, I'm not saying it's not a fine app or IM protocol; I just don't know how it's going to differentiate itself from the well-established competition.
SAG3194: Are you sure you're going to be able to fund the servers you'll need to run to make this work indefinitely on $.99?
BBM sucks...why because people need blackberry sorry ass data plan to use it. Blackberry data plan is only good for check email and use BBM. You can't surf the web with a sorry browser.
Iphone sms is nice. Why didn't you post a picture of iphone sms with MMS picture and see which one is better...you can search it here on the forum.
Used to have a blackberry bold. Some of my friend who didn't pay Blackberry data couldn't use BBM so it was stupid.... Suck ass....the only thing good was the screen res. which was nice...everything else is like others had said....old 1990 UI....
Iphone sms is nice. Why didn't you post a picture of iphone sms with MMS picture and see which one is better...you can search it here on the forum.
Used to have a blackberry bold. Some of my friend who didn't pay Blackberry data couldn't use BBM so it was stupid.... Suck ass....the only thing good was the screen res. which was nice...everything else is like others had said....old 1990 UI....
But why would anyone want a Blackberry without a data plan? Same goes for an iPhone... I don't think that's a valid argument. Plus, you can't get an iPhone without a data plan anyway...
The nice thing about BBM is that it's free/unlimited including to/from overseas. Plus, you get delivery conformation and you can set a status much like an IM app.
Edit: Additionally, if you're set up with a business-issued Blackberry, the IT department can log and audit your BBM messages (and SMS/MMS and call logs if they so choose). This is part of the reason BBM is used as much as it is - businesses have full control over it.
Thank you. Somebody who knows what the hell they are talking about. Some people bet Blackberries expecting an iPhone experience, and then bitch because they have know idea what the Blackberry is all about.
Edit: Now try to explain to him why in some companies capturing SMS/MMS is important and he would probably fall asleep.
)To the original OP, keep on doing what your doing. I hope you get approved. You have at least one customer. Screw all these, but I don't understand post. If they don't understand by now they never will. You've explained it all well and there will be the more sophisticated user who gets it. Don't worry about the ones with the Apple bar code tattooed on their ass.
To the original OP, keep on doing what your doing. I hope you get approved. You have at least one customer. Screw all these, but I don't understand post. If they don't understand by now they never will. You've explained it all well and there will be the more sophisticated user who gets it. Don't worry about the ones with the Apple bar code tattooed on their ass.
Thanks!
I don't mind answering questions.
No, he has not "explained it all well." All I'm asking for is one way in which joining a new iPhones-only chat network will be superior to utilizing an existing IM network. I am honestly looking for an explanation, and I would be happy to hear one. I'm not being rude (or unsophisticated), just asking a simple question. It seems to me that if someone is trying to sell me a new product which appears to have the same features as a product I already own, the burden is on him to explain how it is better.
Well I guess we differ which is fine. It was explained in three pages of post. If you don't get it by now, you should move on because it appears your nit picken. No one is forcing you to understand or buy the app. This is just not for you.
Edit: And at 99¢ what's the big deal, its another app that looks better than ifart.
I have read the thread, and, contrary to your assertions, there are no clear explanations of the virtue of this application. As far as I can see, the only concrete reasons that have been offered are as follows:
1) BBM is native and no app has to be installed.
2) It's always on.
3) It's threaded.
4) It's close to instantaneous.
5) Messages are free.
6) It feels fun to be part of a cool club.
But this application is not BBM, and it will not be a native app with OS integration. All the other claimed features of BBM are shared by IM with Push notifications: BeejiveIM keeps users logged in so that they are always on; conversations are threaded; speed and notifications are nearly instantaneous (I cannot detect any delay--and iIM will use the same notification servers); and IM is also free, using the same data plan that iIM will use.
Am I wrong in believing that this leaves exclusivity as the sole selling point of this app? All the other explanations but those above have consisted of bald assertions that BBM is superior, without any evidence or even arguments to back them up; or, worse yet, smug assertions that if people "don't get it" it's not worth explaining to them.
Honestly, I am not "nit picking." I asked my initial question out of real curiosity, and, if I seem now to be frustrated, it is only because my question is being dismissed as already answered when it really hasn't been. I am open to the possibility that I am missing something. If I am, please enlighten me.
I don't mind explaining things a bit but if people want to oppose me that's a different story.
I understand where he is coming from. He is asking why choose this over IM. I answer that this will eventually be able to be used over all platforms. It will be a copy of BBM just it won't be only for iPhone. It won't be in the beginning but it will be enventually