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iPM:It's BBM For The Rest Of Us.

To the OP: keep doing what you're doing. Not everyone on a BB uses BBM but everyone I know who switched from BB To iPhone misses BBM The most, as I do. I think there will be enough demand for it.

I'm excited to see this coming. It's not about being in the cool club. It's about free msgs to other people on other networks all over the world. I miss that with my BBM. There are different people I want to connect with on IM vs BBM so not everyone is added to that list. For AIM/IM, both people have to be logged on so there's that. Also, there's the whole 9.99 vs 0.99 cost. I only know a few people who shelled out the $ for Beejive.
 
thelatinist said:
I have read the thread, and, contrary to your assertions, there are no clear explanations of the virtue of this application. As far as I can see, the only concrete reasons that have been offered are as follows:

1) BBM is native and no app has to be installed.
2) It's always on.
3) It's threaded.
4) It's close to instantaneous.
5) Messages are free.
6) It feels fun to be part of a cool club.

But this application is not BBM, and it will not be a native app with OS integration. All the other claimed features of BBM are shared by IM with Push notifications: BeejiveIM keeps users logged in so that they are always on; conversations are threaded; speed and notifications are nearly instantaneous (I cannot detect any delay--and iIM will use the same notification servers); and IM is also free, using the same data plan that iIM will use.

Am I wrong in believing that this leaves exclusivity as the sole selling point of this app? All the other explanations but those above have consisted of bald assertions that BBM is superior, without any evidence or even arguments to back them up; or, worse yet, smug assertions that if people "don't get it" it's not worth explaining to them.

Honestly, I am not "nit picking." I asked my initial question out of real curiosity, and, if I seem now to be frustrated, it is only because my question is being dismissed as already answered when it really hasn't been. I am open to the possibility that I am missing something. If I am, please enlighten me.
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Yes, in a way it leaves exclusivity as the only reason that anyone would want this app, but I just want an app that is exclusive to mobile phones, I don't care if it's just iPhone or not. I hate chatting with people on a desktop from my iphone beacuse the two types of conversations flow differently and they don't jibe well when you force them together. A mobile to mobile conversation is much slower paced and less long winded than a desktop to desktop chat.
 
itsmequinn said:
Yes, in a way it leaves exclusivity as the only reason that anyone would want this app, but I just want an app that is exclusive to mobile phones, I don't care if it's just iPhone or not. I hate chatting with people on a desktop from my iphone beacuse the two types of conversations flow differently and they don't jibe well when you force them together. A mobile to mobile conversation is much slower paced and less long winded than a desktop to desktop chat.
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Now that is the first explanation I've heard that has made sense. I don't have the same problems with mobile-to-desktop chats, but I can appreciate that you might.
 
itsmequinn said:
Yes, in a way it leaves exclusivity as the only reason that anyone would want this app, but I just want an app that is exclusive to mobile phones, I don't care if it's just iPhone or not. I hate chatting with people on a desktop from my iphone beacuse the two types of conversations flow differently and they don't jibe well when you force them together. A mobile to mobile conversation is much slower paced and less long winded than a desktop to desktop chat.
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This application will eventually be used across all platforms.

thelatinist said:
Now that is the first explanation I've heard that has made sense. I don't have the same problems with mobile-to-desktop chats, but I can appreciate that you might.
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If you would like more information, or if you feel that I am not answering your question correctly, feel free to PM me. I would be glad to answer your question!

That goes for anyone here as well.
 
I'm actually looking forward to this. I would love to use it to text my girlfriend without having to pay for sms (15 cents per text here in spain, so that's probably like 20-22 cents in dollars). The problem with beejive is that she's never online, so I have to resort to either emails which she doesn't check that often or textfree, which is extremely slow and unstable.

This sounds like a great alternative! If you need any help beta testing, let me know :)
 
For anyone interested, I took SAG3194 up on his offer to discuss this in PMs, and finally discovered what the issue I've been having is. It seems the allure of this application is not what it can do, but what it can't. As I suspected, SAG3194 admits that there is nothing it can do that BeejiveIM cannot (in fact, there are things BeejiveIM does that this app will not); but this application will be limited to mobile platforms and will not interact with desktop clients, and to some people that appears to be important. I'm not sure why that's a selling point, as to me the greater flexibility of traditional IM would appear to increase utility, but at least now it's been explained to me.

I wish SAG3194 luck with his application, and I hope everyone who uses it enjoys it.
 
thelatinist said:
For anyone interested, I took SAG3194 up on his offer to discuss this in PMs, and finally discovered what the issue I've been having is. It seems the allure of this application is not what it can do, but what it can't. As I suspected, SAG3194 admits that there is nothing it can do that BeejiveIM cannot (in fact, there are things BeejiveIM does that this app will not); but this application will be limited to mobile platforms and will not interact with desktop clients, and to some people that appears to be important. I'm not sure why that's a selling point, as to me the greater flexibility of traditional IM would appear to increase utility, but at least now it's been explained to me.

I wish SAG3194 luck with his application, and I hope everyone who uses it enjoys it.
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Thanks!
 
cellocello said:
So, do the APIs give you access to the phone's SN? Like, how would a typical "Add me to iPM" session go down?
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Well it wouldn't be the serial because some people don't want to give out their Serial Number.

I would basically email you my PIN right within the application. The recipient copy and pastes (temporary) the pin into the app.

Or

I could read you my 7 digit pin
 
Sounds really cool. Im looking forward to this. Me and my girlfriend both have iphones and text each other mostly so this would be a nice alternative.
 
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ZING... :D

just j/k
 
thelatinist said:
1) BBM is native and no app has to be installed.
2) It's always on.
3) It's threaded.
4) It's close to instantaneous.
5) Messages are free.
6) It feels fun to be part of a cool club.
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1) SMS is native and no app has to be installed on iPhone
2) SMS is always on as well
3) SMS on iPhone is also threaded
4) SMS IS instantaneous
5) BBM wins on this one :D but $30/5 = $6 a month for unlimited..;)
6) Um there is NO COOLER CLUB than belonging to the :apple: iPhone club bar none! :cool::D:D:D
 
Entertainment72 said:
4) SMS IS instantaneous
5) BBM wins on this one :D but $30/5 = $6 a month for unlimited..;)
6) Um there is NO COOLER CLUB than belonging to the :apple: iPhone club bar none! :cool::D:D:D
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Well ... not to get TOO into it ... but SMS is no where near instantaneous. It may be instantaneous from time to time, but there's no guarantee of time or even of delivery.

BBMs strong points are the delivery and read receipts. You know when someone has gotten your message. You know when they read it. And you know when they're typing a response.
 
Slow Internet Load Times

My mac has been running very slow lately on the internet. I use Fire Fox, and lately it's been taking around 5 minutes for simple pages such as Google.ca to load anyone have any suggestions as to what I can do to fix this?
 
Everytime I sms someone who is right next to me.. (I know its crazy) yes it is instantaneous and has been proven to be very reliable on 3G.. etc. :)

I also have never known anyone (my personal history) who has never received my text (sms).
 
Entertainment72 said:
Everytime I sms someone who is right next to me.. (I know its crazy) yes it is instantaneous and has been proven to be very reliable on 3G.. etc. :)

I also have never known anyone (my personal history) who has never received my text (sms).
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Well, I've done the same thing with different results.

Yea for anecdotal evidence!
 
You can belong to the cool BBM club.. I'll belong to the cool iPhone club.. :D Not missing any BBM here.. :)

When At&t finally gets their MMS act together the death star will finally be complete for world domination.. hahaha.

But yes I cannot be all iPhone SMS fanboy.. BBM is coolio.
 
Entertainment72 said:
You can belong to the cool BBM club.. I'll belong to the cool iPhone club.. :D Not missing any BBM here.. :)

When At&t finally gets their MMS act together the death star will finally be complete for world domination.. hahaha.

But yes I cannot be all iPhone SMS fanboy.. BBM is coolio.
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Uh ....

I own an iPhone and not a BB.

I have MMS already, and at&t does not exist where I live.

but ya ... I hear what you're saying?
 
keep up the work on the app it holds a lot of promise.

Honestly I am surprised apple has not made something native for the iPhone yet that has the same functionality as BBM.

No please do not say SMS because those are not instant, and cost extra money ontop of the data plan. Plus have limitation on lenght of message.

And if people scream it is a waste I will like to point back to some threads 2 years ago of people screaming how MMS was worthless and old technology.

Also Apple already has done things in the past for things like this that became Mac only. Please look at Bonjor. OSX users can talk amoung them selves on it but everyone else can not.
 
jmwein said:
1. Use a blackberry for a month. 2. Come back to this thread. 3. Try again at actually make an educated response.

It's obvious you've never used the service.
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I've used Blackberries. I've even used the Storm for a bit.

It's an ugly UI. I see no benefit of BBM over SMS. And frankly anyone who wants to use BBM is probably going to stick to their Blackberry. And unless an app on the iPhone could interface with the Blackberry network and message Blakcberries, then there's no point. You've just created yet another incompatible chat network, another island that users can't contact people outside of. In fact, you wouldn't even be able to contact every iPhone user, because it would require them to download this app and frankly, you're not going to get 100% penetration. So, what's the point?

Let them have it. For me, SMS works way better and reaches more people.
 
HarrisonB said:
iPhone SMS > BBM any day of the week.
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i was an owner of the original iphone, and got the iphone 3gs, i missed bbm so much i abandoned the iphone and got a bold, haven't regretted it once, for a second, bbm is extremely better than iphone sms threading, and bbm includes sms threading now also...
 
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