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Yes the In-Ear headphones better work with the iPhone, including the mic/buttons.
Or I'll be so freakin pissed.

yeah, no doubt. why would they add this capability to the touch without support for the iphone?! common, apple?! maybe they're waiting until friday for 2.1 to announce it will support it as well?
 
Now THAT is something Apple could add with software/firmware isn't it? If they expand the range of the Bluetooth-chip, the iPhone Bluetooth Headset could be used on the iPod Touch. Or is it a super-basic-own-build-single-frequency Bluetooth-chip in there?

From what I read it sounded like there was the short bus version of Bloot'th in the 2G iPod touch/Nike technology transmitter. Someone might figure out some way to make it work, but I suspect the hardware might be too limited.

I would love a B'tooth ear fetus as well.
 
From what I read it sounded like there was the short bus version of Bloot'th in the 2G iPod touch/Nike technology transmitter. Someone might figure out some way to make it work, but I suspect the hardware might be too limited.

I would love a B'tooth ear fetus as well.

It's not bluetooth, it just a little 2.4ghz transmitter/receiver. Similar to the wireless mice you can buy that have the little usb dongle. Although similar technology to bluetooth, it's NOT bluetooth.
 
yeah, no doubt. why would they add this capability to the touch without support for the iphone?! common, apple?! maybe they're waiting until friday for 2.1 to announce it will support it as well?

Honestly I don't care about whether or not the volume controls work, because it's just as easy to feel around in your pocket for the side mounted ones - but if the microphone doesn't work with the new in-ear headphones for the iPhone 3G I'm gonna be royally pissed off. Clearly they've been working on these earphones for a loong time, much longer than the 3G has been out, so there's no clear excuse as to why they shouldn't be somewhat compatible, at least with audio and the microphone ...
 
Man, the human ear cannot even hear below 20Hz or over 20kHz. And that in perfect conditions

Hi,

The 20Hz to 20,000Hz range was arbitrarily decided by those who invented digital conversion so as to save space. I seem to remember hearing that CD's should have been slightly larger so as to accommodate a higher frequency but the bean counters won out. Before that there wasn't an artificial ceiling (or basement) during the recording process, and the lowly tape reel was able to capture sound waves well over 20,000Hz. A lot of audiophiles swear that analog recordings and playback sound better due the recordings' ability to play back the sounds you can't hear.

At the end of the day you won't notice fleas hair of difference with the iPod's new 21,000Hz headphones due to where you are most likely listening to it (the street), the quality of the recording (compressed digital audio!), and the poor D/A converters in what is a hand held disposable electronic device.

Buy the headphones for the remote ability and the mic.

s.
 
iPhone?

I looked at the product page and this may seem like a retarded question, but on the site it doesn't mention compatibility with the iPhone, only the iTouch. Will it work with my 3G?
 
Can someone please answer whether the new iPod Touches will be shipped with "Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic" for (the 29 dollars one not the 79 dollars one). Or will they have to be bought separately.

talking about this: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB770G/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3NA&mco=MTcyODk5OQ

Though it looks like they won't be bundled in any way, I would think they may offer them as a bundle so you pay say a $70-75 premium (cost of fancy earphones - cost of basic ones) and get just the nicer ear phones.

Depending on various factors maybe a bundle at a say the $65 price premium range might encourage more uptake. I would rather get them than the generic ones that will probably end up in drawer, either way I wouldn't use the generic ones as I have had a very nice set of sony in ear earphones for many years now, never used the ones i god with my iPod or that I got with my minidisc players.
 
They sure are! It's called let's milk the customer for ever buck we can!

Well ACTUALLY if u look at the dissassembly pics the jack is DIFFERENT with the new itouches so its not apple, the old ones are just one way

It's not bluetooth, it just a little 2.4ghz transmitter/receiver. Similar to the wireless mice you can buy that have the little usb dongle. Although similar technology to bluetooth, it's NOT bluetooth.

Once again the dissassembally pics show that it is a Broadcom BCM4325 Bluetooth chip.

disassembly pics
 
Well ACTUALLY if u look at the dissassembly pics the jack is DIFFERENT with the new itouches so its not apple, the old ones are just one way



Once again the dissassembally pics show that it is a Broadcom BCM4325 Bluetooth chip.

disassembly pics

it's a chip used in bluetooth aplications, in this case it is not being used as such, the presences of this chip doesn't instantly make bluetooth available... many chips are used in many different applications as they have multiple uses
 
Can someone please answer whether the new iPod Touches will be shipped with "Apple Earphones with Remote and Mic" for (the 29 dollars one not the 79 dollars one). Or will they have to be bought separately.

talking about this: http://store.apple.com/us/product/MB770G/A?fnode=MTY1NDA3NA&mco=MTcyODk5OQ

do the new earphones come with an ipod touch?

I just bought a new touch yesterday. No new headphones, just the standard ones that I'm not going to use.
 
can anybody tell me how VOiP works. I know it allows you to make calls using WiFi, but my main question is if it is free to make those calls or not. Also, what would the number show up as. Thanks.
 
I like listening to my music out loud when it won't bother anyone, so the external speaker is great for me :)
 
This may have been covered...

I want to buy them because it's adds functionality that should have been there, actually was there in the first 2 generations. I am willing to give them money they don't deserve but seriously...

Make the damn things in BLACK too. I am so sick of the white chord on my Black Touch. I use the Sonys because of this, and the fact that they are considerably better. Just give us the option and let's see which one sell more.
 
apple really is doing some weird stuff lately.

I couldn't agree more. I am really befuddled by the fact that these headphones don't fully support Apple's flagship portable device (3G iPhone). I'm not sure what's going on in Cupertino - i.e. the embarrassing and ongoing MobileMe issues, the buggy iPhone, and now these much-anticipated headphones that only fully function with an iPod that doesn't ship with software which takes full advantage of said headphones.

Amazing the disconnect over there lately. Pretty shoddy. It makes me think all is not well in the wheelhouse.

And for the love of God...copy and paste!? I mean how hard is it. This feature is becoming the 2 button mouse of Apple's touch devices.
 
Why is it so hard for everyone to understand that adding Mic functionality cannot be done with just a software update. ...

It isn't that people don't understand it technically. It is that we don't understand why in the world Apple would have designed its product line this way.

Do you really think that when they designed the first iPod Touch that they had no inkling they would ever consider adding line in or mic capability someday? If they didn't, they should have. If they did, and still decided to go with hardware that would never support such an add-on, then there is only one reason they did it this way.
 
I think it was clear that the new iPods all are compatible with the new headset - there is a reason why the headset has a microphone built into it and why they were mentioned as all compatible with the headset... maybe with a stretch of the imagination because they are compatible with it??
 
can anybody tell me how VOiP works. I know it allows you to make calls using WiFi, but my main question is if it is free to make those calls or not. Also, what would the number show up as. Thanks.

I'd like to know this as well. Outgoing calls ok, but receiving?
 
Hi,

The 20Hz to 20,000Hz range was arbitrarily decided by those who invented digital conversion so as to save space. I seem to remember hearing that CD's should have been slightly larger so as to accommodate a higher frequency but the bean counters won out. Before that there wasn't an artificial ceiling (or basement) during the recording process, and the lowly tape reel was able to capture sound waves well over 20,000Hz. A lot of audiophiles swear that analog recordings and playback sound better due the recordings' ability to play back the sounds you can't hear.

Yes, and no. It may have been imposed arbitrarily, but you should take a hearing test. You'd be surprised!!!

Actually, nowadays sound is used to be captured at sample rates of up to 96kHz, which would make us able to reproduce sounds up to 48kHz. Still, audiophiles think analog audio sounds better. But that's a whole another story, completely unrelated to frequency range.

VS
 
So can anyone confirm yet if the mic and in fact the remote on the headset will work on the Touch? :confused:

I'm waiting for confirmation on this as well . If the new Ipod Touch can do voip I will be buying one.
 
I'm waiting for confirmation on this as well . If the new Ipod Touch can do voip I will be buying one.

its now been confirmed! although i thought is was clear enough on teh website and keynote but guess not
 
Well ACTUALLY if u look at the dissassembly pics the jack is DIFFERENT with the new itouches so its not apple, the old ones are just one way



Once again the disassemble pics show that it is a Broadcom BCM4325 Bluetooth chip.

disassembly pics

The disassembly pics dont say anything about the headphone jack being different... they just mention that its there. So wut the hell r u talkin bout
 
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