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nicetriangles

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I am torn my M1 MacMini rocks 1440p at 144hz on my LG GL850 never imagined a Mac would do this. I’m torn getting the 12.9” XDR iPad Pro. So I go to BestBuy and get a Feel and touch on the 12.9” iPad Pro and it feels great. But then I remembered the XDR iPad Pro is thicker and heavier. And that gave me some sad vibes.
Anyone else see the extra thickness as a deal breaker ?
It's what? Half a mm thicker? Please find more important things to concern yourself with.
 

MBAir2010

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just look at this iPad being the fettuccini of the tablet world, compared to the angel hair ipad air!
and be happy it does not have that white bezel!
 
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Freida

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So, the battery is sticking out of the outer shell or how can you say something that is not logical?

The frame/overall thickness is thicker (8% or so) so it will be sturdier. It probably won't be much but it will be sturdier.
Battery has nothing to do with anything. Its the frame that counts and the frame is thicker.

I am not bothered by thickness but a bit by the additional weight. The weight is basically the same as the second gen pro (the one with larger bezels).
As for thicker=sturdier I don't think so, at all. The extra half a millimeter, probably mainly due the additional battery to ensure 10 hours despite the miniled screen will very likely make no difference since based on the information known so far the case will be exactly as thin. And if you have ever seen these batteries you know that they are bend almost like paper....
So no, it will be just as fragile as before. Zach from Jerryrigeverything will let us known soon enough.

PS the reason why the weight bothers me is that I sometimes use it to read pdf or word files in portrait mode, holding it sometimes when doing that, other than that I don't mind
 

UltimateSyn

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I couldn't care less about the thickness. I do care about the weight. It was easy to tell the difference when they reduced weight from the 2nd-gen to 3rd-gen 12.9", and now they have gone and added that weight back on. 40 grams may not sound like a lot but to me it's easily perceivable on a unwieldy large tablet that you're trying to hold in one hand.
 

MrEcted

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People complained when apple made the iPads thinner, now they're complaining they're thicker? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

If anything it should hopefully provide a bit more rigidity and less risk of bending

As it turns out, there can be multiple groups of people with differing opinions.
 

Digitalguy

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So, the battery is sticking out of the outer shell or how can you say something that is not logical?

The frame/overall thickness is thicker (8% or so) so it will be sturdier. It probably won't be much but it will be sturdier.
Battery has nothing to do with anything. Its the frame that counts and the frame is thicker.
The frame has not changed, this is not true, it's just as thin as before
 

rui no onna

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I used to have the Apple covers for everything (and I still have them), but more recently I started using all my iPads naked once I bought a bunch of stands for every room, so I only hold when standing or in bed (but in bed I only use the mini). So I only use the covers if I travel.
Having said that the issue with the ipad 2 cover is that it folds in 4, not 3, with 2 parts overlapping, which makes that steep angle. I never had the 3 and 4, but from the air 1 on, it was only tri-fold....

This is one of the usage differences why it wouldn’t work for me. I use iPads on the go daily and it's impractical to be installing/removing the case all the time.
 

Moyapilot

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And thats probably why the rumors of OLED coming to ipads makes sense. OLED would allow the ipad to become even thinner, not thicker. Reduced weight and even better picture (although not as blindingly bright). Not sure thought if the Pro line will get the OLED screens, or just the regular ones. Seems backwards if thats the case.
 
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JPack

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And thats probably why the rumors of OLED coming to ipads makes sense. OLED would allow the ipad to become even thinner, not thicker. Reduced weight and even better picture (although not as blindingly bright). Not sure thought if the Pro line will get the OLED screens, or just the regular ones. Seems backwards if thats the case.

iPad Pro 12.9" is thicker likely because of 11% battery capacity increase, rather than the screen.
 
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Digitalguy

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Can you please explain that? The frame has changed. How else you make it thicker by 0.5mm without protruding out?
the thickness of the frame has not changed, it's the battery that is bigger to offset the mini-led screen and the battery does not make the iPad any more rigid, since iPad batteries are so soft you can bend them with the tip of your fingers...
the iPad would be more rigid if the frame was thicker which is not the case
 

Freida

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Still don't get it. Either you are not communicating your idea clearly, or I'm missing something but lets break it down.

Apple states on the website that the thickness is 6.4mm
2020 model was 5.9mm

When you hold the iPad you can see that everything is flushed except the camera that is protruding.
So unless the battery is protruding out or something else is protruding out then the frame is THICKER by 0.5mm and therefore stronger (probably just a little but it is)

So, what am I missing or what are YOU missing?



the thickness of the frame has not changed, it's the battery that is bigger to offset the mini-led screen and the battery does not make the iPad any more rigid, since iPad batteries are so soft you can bend them with the tip of your fingers...
the iPad would be more rigid if the frame was thicker which is not the case
 

Moyapilot

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iPad Pro 12.9" is thicker likely because of 11% battery capacity increase, rather than the screen.
Messed up the link...but you can see in my post above that it was likely due to mini-led that the device had to be thicker. Makes complete sense too as the mini-leds have to be behind the display as opposed to the edges as other LCD ipads
 

Digitalguy

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Still don't get it. Either you are not communicating your idea clearly, or I'm missing something but lets break it down.

Apple states on the website that the thickness is 6.4mm
2020 model was 5.9mm

When you hold the iPad you can see that everything is flushed except the camera that is protruding.
So unless the battery is protruding out or something else is protruding out then the frame is THICKER by 0.5mm and therefore stronger (probably just a little but it is)

So, what am I missing or what are YOU missing?
Maybe it's my English, which is not my native language... It's the iPad that is thicker, not the frame. By frame I mean the metal sheet that covers the back of the iPad and the sides. The sheets in the side are .5 mm larger but just as thin, nor is the back thicker. Did I manage to make myself understood?
 

JPack

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Messed up the link...but you can see in my post above that it was likely due to mini-led that the device had to be thicker. Makes complete sense too as the mini-leds have to be behind the display as opposed to the edges as other LCD ipads

MacRumors didn't have any idea about the 11% larger battery capacity. And quite frankly, not all editors have a good understanding of technology.

Mini LED is significantly thinner/smaller than traditional LED. So it doesn't make sense for it to be thicker.

Let me defer to someone who has been in the industry over a decade:

"Kuo added that the Mini-LED backlit displays will allow for thinner and lighter product designs, while offering many of the same benefits of OLED displays used on the latest iPhones, including good wide color gamut performance, high contrast and dynamic range, and local dimming for truer blacks."

 

Freida

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Oh, I see what you meant. Ok, I get it now. You are still wrong but at least now we are on the same page.

Ok, let me explain what I meant. The side frame that goes around the ipad (not the back plate) is 0.5mm taller. (that what I meant by thickness). And, as a result, the metal will have better structural rigidity than before. It won't be much as the thickness of the ipad (the tallness of the side frame) is only 8% more so its not going to be crazy different but it will provide a little improvement.
Same goes the other way, if the ipad was 1mm thick it would be easier to bend than if it was 10mm thick. Its just physics.

Of course, thats only assuming that all other parameters remind the same or don't have affect on it.

So yeah, the new iPad will be better if we take this into consideration.
And I take little better than nothing so to me this is a nice change.


Maybe it's my English, which is not my native language... It's the iPad that is thicker, not the frame. By frame I mean the metal sheet that covers the back of the iPad and the sides. The sheets in the side are .5 mm larger but just as thin, nor is the back thicker. Did I manage to make myself understood?
 

Digitalguy

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Oh, I see what you meant. Ok, I get it now. You are still wrong but at least now we are on the same page.

Ok, let me explain what I meant. The side frame that goes around the ipad (not the back plate) is 0.5mm taller. (that what I meant by thickness). And, as a result, the metal will have better structural rigidity than before. It won't be much as the thickness of the ipad (the tallness of the side frame) is only 8% more so its not going to be crazy different but it will provide a little improvement.
Same goes the other way, if the ipad was 1mm thick it would be easier to bend than if it was 10mm thick. Its just physics.

Of course, thats only assuming that all other parameters remind the same or don't have affect on it.

So yeah, the new iPad will be better if we take this into consideration.
And I take little better than nothing so to me this is a nice change.
I see what you mean now by "thickness", but this makes very little difference, it will still be very easy to bend and I guess we'll soon see how easy it is to bend in Jerryrigeverything. For comparison, the iPad mini, which has the old-style frame, was much harder to bend.
 

Freida

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Yeah, of course it won't be much but at least its something. To me the 2020 model was just way too easy and I basically decided not to buy until this is improved. Ideally, if this has stronger aluminium on top then I'll be ecstatic.
Paying so much I really hope we get a device that I can again keep for 5 years at least : )

I see what you mean now by "thickness", but this makes very little difference, it will still be very easy to bend and I guess we'll soon see how easy it is to bend in Jerryrigeverything. For comparison, the iPad mini, which has the old-style frame, was much harder to bend.
 
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