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Is anyone here staying with Montery and not upgrading to Ventura

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DouglasCarroll

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MBAir2010 said:
wow, nice story
a 2009 MBP running 2021 OS!
apple should have designed this, but their lawyers probably stopped them.

me, I just started having problems since upgrading last week from a blank ssd drive.
The 2012 MacBook Pro is now stuttering with OCLP Monterey, 12.6.2 were Firefox just now shut down sports game i was streaming and typing in Safari is not responsive, there is a 4 word delay, which is cool fan the norm or 1986.
My stupid butt is getting a SSD caddie replacing the dvd player this week so I can run Mojave, and now probably Catalina. Monterey is great but wont run as it should on the MBP'12 anymore, unless I install a earlier Monterey?

well ,have fun with your "new" MacBooks!
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I have stuttering problems in Monterey if I let my Wife sign into her user account on the machine and then I sign back into my active account. The only way I can fix it is to restart the computet and only login a single user…multiple users logged in always cause the stutter to return.

Try a shutdown and reboot and make certain you’re the only active login
 
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Signum17

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I'm out of the upgrade curve past Monterey, but I'm ok with that. There was a bit of advice going around the Adobe Photoshop forums that went like this:

"Conscientious folks who need critical things to keep working don't just change out a working OS and complain to application makers that their having done so breaks their applications. They test, they research. THEN they migrate when it's safe to do so."
 
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Marty_Macfly

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Hi All,

Back again on this subject, hope you can advise :)
Approaching from different angle this time though....


Is Monterey in the same boat as IOS, in missing security updates, as it is not the latest version of the O/S?


Reasons for my question:
1). See my actual IOS example below.
2). Also, the article at the end of this post:


Hope you can advise!
Best wishes
Martin





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1). See my actual IOS example below.


I have been waiting for ages to upgrade to IOS16. I'm on 15.7.1, and I upgrade 15.xx ASAP when new versions come out.

What the waiting? From using Macs for a couple of year now now - Guess I caught the bug to not upgrade on day one.

I was actually ready to jump this month - until 16.3, then quickly 16.3.1 came out.... man...


However, I finally had chance to look into it:
1. 16.3.1. was a security fix.
2. 15.7.1 is NOT the latest 15.xx version - its now up to 15.7.3 with new security fixes, but these later versions will not auto load onto my 13mini!



Source:


So, my fix:

I'm a casual user, not super geeky on how to do clever workarounds to update to 15.7.3.

I'm simply upgrading to IOS16 now, after backing up the phone 1st.





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2). Article on Apple security patches


https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/202...olicy-only-the-latest-oses-are-fully-patched/
 
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Pecka

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I upgraded to Ventura but went back to Monterey after having issues with my MBP not waking up from sleep.
 
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Pecka said:
Yes, it's not much to get excited about in Monterey or Ventura.

Sometimes I even miss the old UI from Catalina.
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I just updated to Monterey from Mojave recently. I wouldn't choose to be on the latest and greatest (Ventura) if I had a choice, never found them to be very polished.
The mail improvements in Monterey alone were worth it to me. It's faster, and more secure. Spam has dropped significantly. Some other general usage in the OS is faster, but others are slower.
But yeah, not all of the UI overhaul has been great, some of it is disappointing actually, and I miss the sleek effcient previous version as well.
 
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bogdanw said:
Is it just my impression or macOS updates are taking longer and longer to install?
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The download seemed to be quite small – i.e. it downloaded quickly – but the install for this one took an age. I started it going, went shopping, came back, and it said 9 mins left. After that it rebooted and took another 10 mins. Must have been about an hour total. I'm curious to know what it was doing for all that time.
 
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bogdanw

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I presume the update process makes a duplicate of the system snapshot (~16GB), modifies it with the new files, verifies and seals it, boots it, then deletes the old one.
 
GarySchiltz

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mrwizardno2 said:
Downgraded from Ventura - sticking with Monterey for the foreseeable future.
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I'm going to do the same thing. I just totally wipee my 2018 MacBook Pro, and am planning to reinstall everything from scratch anyway. Why not the OS as well? The whole change from "System Preferences" to "System Settings" in order to look like some weird variant of iOS really bummed me out when I "upgraded" to Ventura. I imagine I'm just picking nits, but the whole System Preferences metaphor was fine through umpteen versions of OS X, then macOS 11 and 12. I use macOS largely because it has been visually (somewhat) stable for over two decades. I also bought an M1 MacBook Pro (closeout on B&H that I couldn't resist) and will keep macOS 12 on it until I feel a really compelling reason to switch to Ventura.
 
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GarySchiltz said:
I'm going to do the same thing. I just totally wipee my 2018 MacBook Pro, and am planning to reinstall everything from scratch anyway. Why not the OS as well? The whole change from "System Preferences" to "System Settings" in order to look like some weird variant of iOS really bummed me out when I "upgraded" to Ventura. I imagine I'm just picking nits, but the whole System Preferences metaphor was fine through umpteen versions of OS X, then macOS 11 and 12. I use macOS largely because it has been visually (somewhat) stable for over two decades. I also bought an M1 MacBook Pro (closeout on B&H that I couldn't resist) and will keep macOS 12 on it until I feel a really compelling reason to switch to Ventura.
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yeah me too..for all the same reasons you wrote. monterey works good..except for wifi and Bluetooth which i dont need anyway..and i had double clicking issues on ventura which fixed itself by downgrading
 
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GarySchiltz

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MrScratchHook said:
yeah me too..for all the same reasons you wrote. monterey works good..except for wifi and Bluetooth which i dont need anyway..and i had double clicking issues on ventura which fixed itself by downgrading
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Out of curiosity, what issues do you have with Wi-Fi and Bluetooth?
 
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MrScratchHook

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well im using opencore, since im on a 2012 macpro and the wifi and Bluetooth isnt supported after catalina..in my case i would have to upgrade the wifi card..but im hardwired to the interent..
 
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This could be the first time in my long history so Macs that I am seriously considering rolling back an OS. Monterey was rock solid for me, Ventura not so. Usually one year is enough to allow for a solid OS but Ventura has given me grief Since installing.
 
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davidec said:
This could be the first time in my long history so Macs that I am seriously considering rolling back an OS. Monterey was rock solid for me, Ventura not so. Usually one year is enough to allow for a solid OS but Ventura has given me grief Since installing.
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I just put both my 2017's back on Monterey, Ventura was ok but Monterey seems to have a slight edge in speed.
 
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