Samsung has been making OLED screens for years. A lot of the Xs screen are made by Samsung and identical to the Galaxy S and Note screens
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Samsung has been making OLED screens for years. A lot of the Xs screen are made by Samsung and identical to the Galaxy S and Note screens
Apple has diversified their iPhone line targeting different customer affordability markets with different prices accordingly from the premium to the entry level. A lot of people I am noticing in this forum always target the highest premium hoping this premium product with lower price, which is “very unrealistic”
if they do not or cannot have it, all complaints of over pricing, greed, etc pour out. These comments signify “self entitlement.”
I am very satisfied and glad Apple puts premium price to their premium product like other premium brand/ luxury company. That is what Apple need to be as a world class company.
People should get a a”non necessity” products according what they can afford. “Knowing” what you can get with what you earn is a mature person.
To sum up, get an iPhone fits with what you can purchase. Aiming beyond your reach leads a lot of dissatisfaction or unhappiness, usually leads to criminal acts such as fraud, etc.
Get real and accept your situation.
An iPhone is just a phone and NOT a necessity for living.
Apple has done what they can to accommodate as many people who want their product with their iPhone/ Mac/ iPad diversification.
Apple should've invested in OLED development like they do for their iPhone/iPad chips. They're relying on their biggest competitor to sell them screens, not the best idea. They probably planned LG would be ready by the time they moved to OLED, but it's not the case currently.
With iPhone crossing the $1,000 threshold, I actually think programs like iPhone Upgrade and carrier financing make less sense. If I buy a $1,249 iPhone XS Max, I would do it planning on holding on to the phone for at least two years and trading in the residual value (probably $400 or $500 in two years) towards the purchase of the new phone. If you buy on an iPhone Upgrade program, you are conditioning yourself to basically leasing a phone on a continual basis, with ever increasing lease payments and no ownership. Everytime you upgrade your phone in a year with a marginal update, you start your lease over, probably at a higher payment, with no utility gained. That could work if you are buying a $700 or $800 device that you truly are going to keep for one year, but in the era of laptop priced phones with laptop-like life cycles, it doesn't pencil out anymore.
Overcharging is relative. I had a problem with my 1st gen iPad. Went into a local Apple Store, replaced on the spot, no issues. Since my first iPhone (the 3G) I've had issues with two iPhones, replaced on the spot without any problems.
Then there's a time when I had an issue with my Apple Watch (1st gen) delivery because I was going away with work, and couldn't get help on the phone, so e-mailed Tim Cook. I knew it wouldn't be him that answered, and it was a complete punt, but I got a call from an exec in Ireland and they ensured it was shipped to me before I went away.
I wouldn't have had that level of service from Samsung or other gadget manufacturers.
Then there's the fact that Apple kit holds its value much better than other competitors. This helps when wanting to buy newer models and I've benefitted with iPhones, iPads, MacBooks and MacMinis.
Also, I generally end up owning Apple kit for longer than alternatives - for me most Apple products I've had have performed better, for longer than alternatives, so I can't just justify an upgrade as often as I'd like and I don't feel the need to upgrade with every release... And then because they hold their value better (as above), I still end up better off than with rival kit.
Therefore, I'd argue it's easy to say that Apple are overcharging for their products, but I think it's a lot more nuanced than that, and actually (for me) I find I get better value from Apple kit than alternatives, and then benefit from the joined-up-ecosystem that I wouldn't get from alternative products.
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I think that's misunderstanding Apple's motivation. I don't think that they ever set out to sell the most phones, and it's not even about sustaining sales.
They're selling products that people value, and they seek profit. Volume's an important factor, but it's more than just about volume, even if that's what analysts and investors reduce it to.
Exactly. I love the OLED screen on my X. It was one of the reasons I was so pumped to pre-order the XS Max last night (delivers on Friday
), but all the hands on comments I've seen so far mention that the LCD screen on the XR is actually pretty good. It's not OLED, no, but they generally felt the XR screen was nothing to be ashamed of.
It will probably be nice. To be honest I’m more bothered about the resolution than oled. The 1080p display on the plus phones was really nice.Exactly. I love the OLED screen on my X. It was one of the reasons I was so pumped to pre-order the XS Max last night (delivers on Friday
Curious where the acrimony is over the prices of data fees and cell plan costs? Unless you are on a bare bones plan, in which case you may want to ask yourself why do you need a flagship Apple phone, the costs are also quite high.
Hey, I don’t claim that Apple wants to sell the most, just that as a company trading at the stock market they are interested in retaining a certain amount of profit. I don’t think market share is an interesting metric for them, and it’s not going to help the company if it can’t pay the bills.
Add to that that the market and devices are mature, so not many people will upgrade yearly like they did a while ago.
Most economists believe in something called "supply-side", wherein prices are set based on costs. This is, of course, preposterous. Apple will up the price to whatever the maximum number they can get before the opportunity cost outweighs the marginal gains. So, in short – the price will keep going up as long as you keep buying them.
Prepaid plans have come a long way in the US. You can get 4 lines of unlimited everything for $100 on Cricket. Even paying full retail for my phones, I pay way less than I used to on Verizon even during the 2 year contract days and get more.
But that is close to a bare bones plan with a speed cap of 3 Mbps. Nothing wrong with doing that, but you wouldn’t even need an LTE phone for those speeds. I’m glad that works for many, but my point remains....a lot of people complain about the cost of smartphones also pay for expensibe cell plans with high speed and lots of speed and data without batting an eye.
LTE is not just about download speeds, there’s also latency and VoLTE, plus carriers are starting to shut down their edge/3G networks and shift to all LTE in some areas. You can take advantage of most of the features of a flagship phone (camera, battery, gaming, etc) on any plan. Also I’d argue the majority of people would not notice the speed difference for things like web browsing, music streaming, things we mostly use our phones for.
Of course you are, but three things to consider:
1) How often does complaining about something, especially something so large as a product from a major company, yielded you any results?
2) Maybe watch your health: https://www.bustle.com/p/11-surprising-ways-complaining-can-affect-your-health-70324
3) Your complaining may not seem rational to a lot of folks.
1) Complaining helps company's make changes if others echo the same sentimentsOf course you are, but three things to consider:
1) How often does complaining about something, especially something so large as a product from a major company, yielded you any results?
2) Maybe watch your health: https://www.bustle.com/p/11-surprising-ways-complaining-can-affect-your-health-70324
3) Your complaining may not seem rational to a lot of folks.
2) Thank you
3) Why would I care what people think of me?
True, but that sort of argument would also imply they don't need the flagship phone for the camera, as last year's camera takes photos they probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference from either...
And still is a sidebar from the point people complain about pricey phones, but don't seem to see how much their cell plans cost them.
1) It can, but I'd hazard a guess those situations are in the vast minority.
2) You are welcome.
3) I didn't say you would, or even should, care. I meant to convey don't be surprised if a lot of people don't see your complaint as valid. That's all.
1) Companies listen to feedback, that's how they improve. Do you think Apple just makes new iPhones based on what the designers and engineers personally like? lollll
3) Exactly, I don't care, so why even bring it up? The only ones I want to care is Apple.
I didn't say anything of the sort. In the same vein as your lolz...you think somebody with the power to change Apple read your thread and cared about the message? Or it contained some insight they hadn't heard before?
Where do you think Apple goes to get feedback exactly? Interviewing people on the street? They use the internet, sweetie. I'm one of many people on this site and more popular social media sites such as Twitter.I didn't say anything of the sort. In the same vein as your lolz...you think somebody with the power to change Apple read your thread and cared about the message? Or it contained some insight they hadn't heard before?
Because you want a hot wife and a good job?
Look, Apple makes luxury electronics. If you just want something that makes phone calls, won't be noticed, and can save you money, get an Android or a non-X iPhone. The X is for those who want the best and aren't afraid to deal with the collateral of perception.
OP: Yes.
I always say give me Apple’s PR department and I’ll give you peace in the Middle East. Apple has perfected the art of making their phones and other bits of tech more than just a thing, they make it an acessory that you just haaaaaaaaaaave to have, and they make all their launches into social events that you feel bad if you aren’t a part of.
You don’t have to admit to yourself but likley many of us fall prey to this but you know what - that’s ok. It’s a privledge that success affords me and I enjoy it.
I always say give me Apple’s PR department and I’ll give you peace in the Middle East. Apple has perfected the art of making their phones and other bits of tech more than just a thing, they make it an acessory that you just haaaaaaaaaaave to have, and they make all their launches into social events that you feel bad if you aren’t a part of.
You don’t have to admit to yourself but likley many of us fall prey to this but you know what - that’s ok. It’s a privledge that success affords me and I enjoy it.
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Sweetie, did you even read what my original comment was? I would like a hot spouse and good job, but I'm not going to pretend to be something I'm not. I'll be myself and if they accept or reject me, so be it.
As for the phone, I admit I'm WILLING to way pay extra for the nicest model but still the price is excessive and am wondering if the price is high due to the materials being expensive at the moment and possibly being cheaper in the future, which will lead to cheaper prices.