My Ryzen PC has been absolutely rock solid stable since I built it back in September 2017. No matter what OS I ran, even Windows 7 or macOS 10.13, it was completely stable. It is also the only computer I've used on which Windows 10 runs flawlessly without any issues. You must've got a bad motherboard or something.
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MP All Models Is Apple ****ing themselves over the ThreadRipper 3 yet?
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Yeah, there was pretty large number of compatibility issues with Zen 1 launch (series 1000) and Zen 2 Launch(Series 3000). Heck, even Linux OS support was terrible at the start for 3000 series, and Navi GPUs.
Currently there are still some problems unresolved in AMD software, but here is the thing.
If anyone would ask me in 2019 what CPU for Gaming: I say Intel. If anyone ask me what CPU for professional work in 2019? I say AMD.
If anyone ask me in 2020 what CPU for... anything: I say AMD.
Currently there are still some problems unresolved in AMD software, but here is the thing.
If anyone would ask me in 2019 what CPU for Gaming: I say Intel. If anyone ask me what CPU for professional work in 2019? I say AMD.
If anyone ask me in 2020 what CPU for... anything: I say AMD.
You and your friend might have needed help building a PC.
I just built my first Ryzen system (not first PC), w/o major issues (X570/2700x/RTX2070). Hardware build for ThreadRipper can be a bit more touchy, but Ryzen AM4 is reasonably straight forward. The most difficult software setup for Ryzen can be overclocking ram, but not required.
I do notice a weird Wacom tablet sensitivity issue in one app but not the other.
I still run my Dual MP , next to the Ryzen systems, and the Ryzen often a bit faster (w/o overclock) in single thread scores and rendering (this was in Windows, have not installed as Hackintosh yet) The CPU I used was a Ryzen 2700X (on sale from Amazon ~$140) and will upgrade to a new Ryzen when prices drop, as well as add Thunderbolt 3 later.
I agree w others that Apple has added far too much bloat/iOS crap to OSX, so just like in windows, I find ways to disable as much of it as possible. The first software I install on Windowis good anti-virus/malware/firewall tools.
Mac OS has a distinct advantage on being more idiot proof that I am thankful for. For my family at home they use Mac OS and Chrome.
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What is your experience, specifically - why are they garbage? I run one and it is light years ahead of the i7-6700 in my work machine.
You're also at odds with the prevailing attitude of basically every professional tester on the internet at this point.
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You got a faulty board or other component. It happens.
RMA it, move on.
My 2700X has been solid for 12+ months.
I could pull some Opterons out of the eWaste bin for you. Garbage.
Opteron isn't "post ryzen" as per the original poster's assessment of "garbage". The opteron line goes back to 2003.
Which is when intel were producing hot (literally) garbage with the pentium 4 netburst architecture, and Apple was on PowerPC.
The P4 ran cooler than the G5 while running faster at the end. Especially on later revisions the P4-is-hot thing was way overplayed.
The Pentium M based stuff was still better. But by the end it was all better than the G5.
I wasn't comparing to the G5.
I was comparing to its competitor in the PC space - Athlon.
Which made it look like a joke.
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also, i owned multiple netburst machines (pentium 4 2.4, pentium D 930); i'm writing from experience.
Slight off-topic: Twitter profile to follow if anyone is interested in ARM architectures, and news: https://twitter.com/WhatAintInside
Throwing Down The Gauntlet To CPU Incumbents
The server processor market has gotten a lot more crowded in the past several years, which is great for customers and which has made it both better and
www.nextplatform.com
Threadripper 3990x brings more CPU threads than Windows Pro can handle
AMD’s newest HEDT monster is ready for you. Are you ready for it?
arstechnica.com
It appears that currently only Linux is capable of handling all of those threads from Threadrippers
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Why no benchmarks with 128 cores on Apple OSX?It appears that currently only Linux is capable of handling all of those threads from Threadrippers
Most likely you did something wrong. Now it’s AMD’s fault and you’re here to sing the song of Ryzen’s doom despite the thousands of flawless builds up and running? Do you not realize that perhaps something went wrong with your build? Or is there a vast global conspiracy of people hiding lock ups and input lag? ? ? ?
I was responding to the statement:
I have not seen a WC workstation ship from any of the major brands.
As for advancements I made no comment regarding quality of solutions.
Water cooling was standard on the higher end Z8 series until recently, and optional on other models.
https://www8.hp.com/us/en/workstations/zcooler.html
But it didn't leak, unlike Apple's try.
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....crickets....Why no benchmarks with 128 cores on Apple OSX?
Because they haven't been able to use anything past the 3950X in a Hackintosh?Why no benchmarks with 128 cores on Apple OSX?
I think if Apple adopts AMD APU on MBP series, it is possible to use AMD CPU in Mac systems. I dont see any hopes for Intel at this point.
OEMs are still about 75% of the market, so Intel is safe until they do get their 10nm going.
Businesses will still buy intel i3s by the metric ton, while smart folks get a Ryzen. What is more interesting is what is happening in the server space. I see AMD continuing to make gains in that area.
Yesterday at some Chinese social network where people shares tech "speculations" someone with good record posted the following for a while and then deleted (take with huge grain of salt):
Apple readies Mac mini and iMac, iMac Pro full re-new , new aesthetic follows Mac pro and Pro display.
CPU, AMD based "hybrid" processors (custom Ryzen/Threadripper).
Base iMac 21/Mac mini to share APUs Ryzen 4000 series based, iMac 5k 8-16 cores Ryzen 3000 aeries - Navi GPU s (the gaming iMac), iMac Pro 6k Threadripper 24-64 cores Navi 21, pcie4 everything.
Hybrid processors, could mean the management controller likely build around or deeply integrated into T3 SCM.
IMac Pro more expensive, should start at 6000$, all other Macs to keep current base price.
Basically that's just what's speculations/hopefully tells everywhere, nothing unpredictable except for the "hybrid" CPU, while a custom Zen3 Chip is easy bet (in an all AMD Mac ) that hybrid word IMHO means Apple replace Zen Bridge Chip (10nm) with something based on it's (arm) T3 7nm, likely integrating RAM encryption (which comes sense) and more power efficiency and no chance for DIY cheap upgrades, unless you buy an Apple baked Ryzen CPU.
Keep track on this rumor, being true will be the most attractive iMac line ever, also the new aesthetic improves the crappy iMac thermal envelope, no throttling, no Intel bug's, pcie4.
I would buy that 6K iMac Pro with closed eyes even at baseline configurations (24 core, wx5700 likely) should be a huge upgrade on current iMac Pro (and a Mac pro sales predator).
A Mac mini with a cheese grater front/rear grille plus on top power/tb3 ports like the Mac pro will sell very fast too
Apple readies Mac mini and iMac, iMac Pro full re-new , new aesthetic follows Mac pro and Pro display.
CPU, AMD based "hybrid" processors (custom Ryzen/Threadripper).
Base iMac 21/Mac mini to share APUs Ryzen 4000 series based, iMac 5k 8-16 cores Ryzen 3000 aeries - Navi GPU s (the gaming iMac), iMac Pro 6k Threadripper 24-64 cores Navi 21, pcie4 everything.
Hybrid processors, could mean the management controller likely build around or deeply integrated into T3 SCM.
IMac Pro more expensive, should start at 6000$, all other Macs to keep current base price.
Basically that's just what's speculations/hopefully tells everywhere, nothing unpredictable except for the "hybrid" CPU, while a custom Zen3 Chip is easy bet (in an all AMD Mac ) that hybrid word IMHO means Apple replace Zen Bridge Chip (10nm) with something based on it's (arm) T3 7nm, likely integrating RAM encryption (which comes sense) and more power efficiency and no chance for DIY cheap upgrades, unless you buy an Apple baked Ryzen CPU.
Keep track on this rumor, being true will be the most attractive iMac line ever, also the new aesthetic improves the crappy iMac thermal envelope, no throttling, no Intel bug's, pcie4.
I would buy that 6K iMac Pro with closed eyes even at baseline configurations (24 core, wx5700 likely) should be a huge upgrade on current iMac Pro (and a Mac pro sales predator).
A Mac mini with a cheese grater front/rear grille plus on top power/tb3 ports like the Mac pro will sell very fast too
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What good would a Mac mini do with the cheese grater if they don't reorient the fans and come up with a different form factor?
This is interesting and, if true, in my mind it signals the nearer term end of macOS. I’d thought that, if macOS was important to Apple, they’d transition their processors and have a long term solution to their processor woes. It would mean that they’d be focusing on both not only the software future of the platform, but the hardware future as well (annual A series processor updates).
If macOS was NOT important to Apple anymore... if Apple perceives that, in the near future, sales would be dropping off significantly, they’d simply switch to a cheaper CPU. This way, as sales continue to drop, they can make more of a profit on each one, meaning it would still be worth producing them even if they’re only producing 2-3 million a year.
I have no idea how would look an all new Mac mini , Mac pro inspired (if, the rumour/leak seems focused on the iMac).
I'm speculating, an iMac looking like an pro display do not need too much imagination, but an "Mac Pro (cheese grater) - looking" Mac mini is not that easy.